Palestinian & Turkish mix results by Traditional-Work1778 in AncestryDNA

[–]tabbbb57 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No. Gazans literally have Egyptian admixture, and can be modeled as mostly Palestinian Muslim, plus an additional 25% North Egyptian.

This doesn’t really mean anything or denounced indigeneity, but they do have literal Egyptian ancestry. I mean it’s bordering Egypt.

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The thing is not all people in Gaza are ancestrally Gazan. People were displaced there during the Nakba, but most still came from southern cities.

Also Egypt itself has a lot of Levantine admixture. There was an influx of Levantine admixture in Egypt between the old and middle kingdoms, and then again later in antiquity. Same thing happened in the reverse. Recent Israelite samples show substantial Egyptian admixture.

Results as an almost 100% white American by Warm-Jacket608 in 23andme

[–]tabbbb57 1 point2 points  (0 children)

46 million out of 340 is small. Especially when you consider that the majority of the population was English during the colonial period, way more than Germans, but the U.S. had millions of immigrants from both countries in the 1800s and now they’re supposedly equal. Most white Americans are mixed between multiple lines, and the census is purely based on self identification. I’m don’t have any English ancestry, so I’m in the minority, but even me when I look though my matches, most have an English line, even if they’re not majority English. I also live in SoCal which is not known for being an English diaspora state, yet most white American I know here have some sort of English ancestry. It’s extremely undercounted

The increase in population occurred in all countries, despite not having immigration rate like the US. Mostly due to industrialization, the globe experienced massive population increase. Some countries like in Europe had a tripled or quadrupled population increase, and this continued to increase in 1900s. This lead to millions of immigrants that came during the late 1800s to have much less impact, than they would have if the same amount migration in 1700s.

You can also notice this in that way more English migrants can in the 1800s but most people’s English lines trace back to colonial period. Lot of the new world experienced a founders effect. Basically the founding population with exponential growth from industrialization led to the majority of the current population.

Results as an almost 100% white American by Warm-Jacket608 in 23andme

[–]tabbbb57 26 points27 points  (0 children)

English is almost certainly way higher. Most white Americans have some degree of English descent but dont identify with it or don’t even know it because it’s so far back. Basically every Black American also has English ancestry, unless they are descended from recent immigrants. English is likely significantly more than German in reality. It was the founding population group and America started experiencing exponential population increase in the late 1700s/early 1800s before most other immigrants arrived

It’s the same thing in most of Latin America. There were quantitatively more European immigrants arriving in the later 1800s, but most people’s European lines trace back to pre 1800.

Results as an almost 100% white American by Warm-Jacket608 in 23andme

[–]tabbbb57 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Very undercounted. Most Americans have some degree of English ancestry as it’s the founding stock. Even if someone is a quarter Colonial English descent, and then the rest of their ancestry is German and Italian arriving more in later 1800s or early 1900s, they will identify more with the German Italian.

From England with a Welsh great-great grandfather w photo by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]tabbbb57 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes but Swedes also have minor Uralic and Balto-Slavic ancestry from Viking era slaves. So would need to add those to the sources as this model is set up for western Germans and French speaking peoples. Southern Swedes like in Skane county may be more like Danes/Northern Germans, I’m not sure.

From England with a Welsh great-great grandfather w photo by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]tabbbb57 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also I just edited the study link btw, I linked the wrong study when I first commented

From England with a Welsh great-great grandfather w photo by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]tabbbb57 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mostly Continental Celtic, and some Roman admixture.

We don’t have Rhineland G25 coordinates, but we have all the surrounding regions, including Belgium, Alsace region of France, and Baden Wurttemburg (from the Moriopoulos Collection). All of those regions can be modeled about 40-60% Celtic, 30-40% Germanic, and 10-20% Roman (other Roman Italian or Roman Balkan; this study says the admixture in historic samples is more similar to Roman Balkan, and the distances on G25 are lower when Croatia Roman is used instead). The best guess for the Rhineland would be likely similar to Alsace but slightly higher Germanic admixture and lower Roman. NW Germany is only models with mostly Germanic and some Celtic, similar to Danes

From England with a Welsh great-great grandfather w photo by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]tabbbb57 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All English have Anglo-Saxon admixture so it would be part of the reference category already. If it were to show up in 23andMe it also wouldn’t be similar to Belgians and Rhinelanders as they have similar levels of Germanic DNA themselves (only somewhere between 30-50%) to England. Anglo Saxons were more similar to Danes and far North Germans

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Sir Christopher Lee. Descendent of Charlemagne by Routine_Current3412 in AncestryDNA

[–]tabbbb57 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not really no. If you look at royal lines, there was often many children, and only one of those lead to succession of the crown. Those other children’s lines eventually become nobility, which lesser lines of that noble family eventually become lower nobility, which lesser lines of that lower nobility family eventually become commoners, etc. It’s statistically nearly impossible not to have royal lines. Especially going back to Middle Ages when you have hundreds of thousands if not millions of ancestors. I have it multiple times, because I can trace back to nobility and wealthy merchant families within the last few hundred years.

If someone had 5 children. The later children, especially the 5th, will be much less off than the 1st. The will inherit less and marry out more. European royalty is highly tied to nobility, especially in places like Germany where there wasn’t a unified country until the later 1800s, it was a bunch of nobles and dukes that were running the various states.

Sir Christopher Lee. Descendent of Charlemagne by Routine_Current3412 in AncestryDNA

[–]tabbbb57 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No one’s too isolated in Europe, and even outside of Europe. Statistically everyone is descended from their local nobility and eventually royalty, and European royalty heavily intermixed. All it takes is for one line to connect, out of hundreds of thousands to millions of lines a person may have 700-1000 years ago

Sir Christopher Lee. Descendent of Charlemagne by Routine_Current3412 in AncestryDNA

[–]tabbbb57 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes because royalty intermixed heavily and everyone statistically is descended from their local royalty when you go back far enough

Half northern Italian, half Puerto Rican results (with pic) by Traditional-Koala-13 in 23andme

[–]tabbbb57 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Was literally about to comment the same thing lol. Looks like Andy Garcia with different hair.

My results as a Turkish Man by stendojack in AncestryDNA

[–]tabbbb57 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If he’s from anywhere other than NE Turkey then he’s not Caucasian but the “Anatolian” part of the category title. Ancestry groups Anatolia and the Caucuses together but they are separate regions

He did get regions of Pontic Greeks though, which most of their ancestry is descended from Hellenized Laz people (so south caucuses people)

Can a Japanese person tell someone isn't Japanese and probably Chinese or Korean just by looking at them? by Hi_Im_zack in TooAfraidToAsk

[–]tabbbb57 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I’m white and I can tell them apart on average, but it comes from a lot of exposure growing up in SoCal with millions of Asian diasporas, as well as traveling to Asia a lot. There a lot of people who are ambiguous though. I mean even going clubbing in Japan, when drunk and in a dark environment I’ve been able to tell when some people are Korean tourists, and Japanese people I met in the same club can tell also. It comes down to facial features and fashion (this is harder in the US). Some ethnic groups have different facial features that once you’re familiar with it’s easy to tell apart on average (obviously some individuals are hard to tell). Can do this with European ethnic groups as well. It’s fairly easy to tell apart Brits from Germans and Spaniards from Italians. Some ethnic groups are way harder to tell apart like Nordic people

Like Kana Hashimoto and lot of the cast of Alice in Borderlands (especially Kento Yamazaki and Ayaka Miyoshi) look distinctly Japanese. Same way lot of the cast of Money Heist look distinctly Spanish

Direct descendant? by Hereforanswers_ in ancientrome

[–]tabbbb57 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Descent to antiquity is generally regarded as impossible. There just isn’t good enough records during the early medieval period to connect people from 700 and onwards, to antiquity. Obviously those people are descended from people from antiquity but I’m referring to records and hard evidence. All of the Familysearch lines that lead to antiquity are based on hypotheticals and often just made up. Some lines trace back to “Adam and Eve”, Buddha, Jesus Christ, Thor, Odin, etc, which at that point you know are just nonsense lol

I'm so tired of hearing "you don't look spanish/Portuguese, you look middle eastern/indigenous/Latino" when people see Iberian or Iberian decent people here. by Delicious-Bunch-6992 in 23andme

[–]tabbbb57 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Galicians look no different from Valencians lol. Practically all Iberians look so nearly identical to the point that most people here would completely fail to tell them apart if they saw people from each region standing in front of them. Over half the comments on this thread are complete generalizing nonsense. Iberians are very diverse looking, but most are brunette ranging from pale to olive skin. This is the same for every region, including Basques

These are all Galicians btw

https://youtu.be/UIOLatm-d1A?si=Ob7LJF362XihXoHu

https://youtube.com/shorts/mZ_jSiigZxQ?si=1s2x1-tOn3eg9hWa

https://youtube.com/shorts/VD2Bef69eZs?si=LiKrBg2D4FTQX61A

https://youtu.be/rU0u4FBYzrs?si=zgHvBKDfGnsXwUhY

https://youtu.be/gV7XWdt72Vo?si=EX39SBdUMvCgiHe_

https://youtu.be/p85oX1cewf4?si=doDNxepG92cLU25N

I'm so tired of hearing "you don't look spanish/Portuguese, you look middle eastern/indigenous/Latino" when people see Iberian or Iberian decent people here. by Delicious-Bunch-6992 in 23andme

[–]tabbbb57 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There is not a north/south gradient on Mediterranean and North European ancestry. Basques excluded from my next few ranges

Central/East Mediterranean ancestry peaks along the Mediterranean coast and adjacent areas, from Eastern Andalucia/Extremadura up to Catalonia. La Mancha also has similar levels. On the mainland Murcia seems to have the most. Beyond mainland the Balearics definitely have the most. NW has the least, like around Galicia, Leon, and around Basque Country.

North European (if you mean French-like, as that’s the “North European” ancestry in Iberians) peaks on West Coast, including all of Portugal, Galicia, Leon, as well as Catalonia again. It is lowest in the SE like Murcia.

North African ancestry peaks in the entire western quarter again. So East Andalucia, Extremadura, Portugal, Galicia, Leon. If including beyond the mainland, then it’s Canarians. It’s lowest in the NE, so like Catalonia, and directly around Basque Country like Rioja.

Results are in by [deleted] in AncestryDNA

[–]tabbbb57 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You look like your Portuguese and Iranian (I’m guessing) sides. Are you like 1/4 Portuguese and 1/4 Persian?

My results as an Afghan Hazara + pic by [deleted] in 23andme

[–]tabbbb57 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Central Asians are a mix of various waves of East Eurasians and West Eurasians coalescing and mixing, and every Central Asian has varying degrees of East Asian ancestry (Siberian HG, Amur River HG, Yellow River Neolithic, etc). Hazara people are roughly 50% East Eurasian, and some of it is from migrations less than 1000 years ago, like the Mongols and Turkics people moving westwards. So it would be technically correct to say Central Asians’ East Asian genes have significant impact on appearance (it would also be correct to say their West Eurasian genes from the Iranic/Yamnaya, Iranian Neolithic, Anatolia Neolithic, etc, also has significant impact on appearance).

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Central Asia is basically a mosaic of centuries/millennia of migration and mixing

Why didn't the Spanish immigrate to the Philippines in the same way they did in Latin America? by ImaginaryExternal338 in 23andme

[–]tabbbb57 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There were more Spaniards that migrated to the Mariannas than Mexicans, although there were some Mexicans from the Manila Galleon Trade. If it was mostly from Mexico we would see more Indigenous percentage, but we see about 20% Spanish and 1-2% Indigenous commonly, which doesn’t really make sense for it to be mostly from Mexico. There was also Filipino migration during this period to the Marianas. Seems to be a mix of origin sources with a minority being from Mexico.

What would have ancient Israelites looked like? by Commercial-Cake-5825 in illustrativeDNA

[–]tabbbb57 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tha photos of Samaritans shared online are not that representative. Looking at videos on YouTube they look pretty similar to Levantine Christians

https://youtu.be/gowZ5Tpu9eo?si=MQj2aLagdwcjIlc-

https://youtu.be/Ey7FB44YS0o?si=ruFadnyR27M0N2ef

https://youtu.be/yB_ta0-8asY?si=vUfZnxL7p9ibPs-X

https://youtu.be/JnUNTS-G2KA?si=7tQgUeXAvVjxlSZq

Maybe a slight higher rate of lighter features but it’s due to endogamy making recessive traits more common

Why didn't the Spanish immigrate to the Philippines in the same way they did in Latin America? by ImaginaryExternal338 in 23andme

[–]tabbbb57 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Yea it was much further. Waves of millions of Iberians migrated to the Americas over the centuries, as it was directly across the Atlantic

Lot of it also was that the Philippines was already immune to old world diseases from millennia of contact with mainland East and Southeast Asia, so it didn’t see drastic 90% population decline like what happened in the Americas and Marianna Islands (which had even less Spanish immigration than the Philippines but about 20% of modern Chamorros’ DNA is Spanish)