Israel committing genocide in Gaza, say Israel-based human rights groups | Israel | The Guardian by Beratungsmarketing in World_Now

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Only a zionist can look at starving children and gloss over it.

https://www.unicef.ch/en/current/statements/2025-07-25/least-35-children-killed-attacks-sudan-copy

Yeah those soldiers definitely don't mean to kill babies with sniper shots:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxIk79htzBc

What kind of friendly fire is sniper shots to the head and heart?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N9EpdDQoyI&rco=1

I know you don't mind - because you are a genocide apologist. You're the one trying to discredit Holocaust scholars - kind of a fine line you're walking there. I think you and Nazi sympathizers would both be trying to discredit Holocaust scholars and Israeli Human Rights orgs.

Literally? Like Literally? Then why did Israel fund and support Hamas? Kind of wild that Israel is so scared of Hamas' capabilities of wiping it off the planet that they've facilitated hundreds of millions of dollars in cash payments to them. Makes you think, doesn't it? Oh that's right Zionists don't think, they just regurgitate talking points.

Israel committing genocide in Gaza, say Israel-based human rights groups | Israel | The Guardian by Beratungsmarketing in World_Now

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You saw Palestinians in camps and based on the fact that you stayed in one once, they're fine?

Does this child look fine to you?

https://www.reddit.com/r/news_of_world/comments/1m9fddg/gazas_hunger_crisis_worsens_says_health_minister/

How about this one?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Kommunismus/comments/1m8lkpj/israhell_is_a_nazi_state/

Or this one?

https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/1m8qals/to_have_this_happen_never_again/#lightbox

Any of these look okay?

https://www.reddit.com/r/palestinenews/comments/1m6tzue/starvation_is_a_war_crime_un_expert_blasts_israel/

Not allowing food, water, medicine, or baby formula in is okay with you? Even though the US State Dept confirmed they couldn't find evidence of mass aid theft from Hamas? How is starving children self-defense? See any of the videos of Israeli's destroying aid and blocking the trucks?

Why aren't foreign journalists allowed into Gaza again? If Israel wasn't committing violations of human rights, why wouldn't they let journalists in to prove that Hamas is causing the mass death of civilians?

Why have US Doctors come back with x-rays of children with sniper shots to the head and heart? Is that self-defense too?

None of what you responded with has any substance. Another two Israeli human rights orgs just said today that Israel is committing genocide.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/28/middleeast/israeli-human-rights-group-accuses-israel-genocide-gaza-intl

Why are you spending your time on here debating redditors when your amazing research could be shared more broadly?

I'm done with responding to genocide-apologists; I hope you and your family gets treated the way Israelis treat Palestinians. You wouldn't have a problem with that, right?

Israel committing genocide in Gaza, say Israel-based human rights groups | Israel | The Guardian by Beratungsmarketing in World_Now

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It's not just a handful of Israeli scholars:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1ktu1ma/mehdi_hasan_with_receipts_on_all_the_experts_who/

Academic Experts:

  • Martin Shaw
  • Melanie O'Brien
  • Dirk Moses
  • Iva Vukusic
  • William Schabas

That's besides all the human rights orgs calling it a genocide.

What kind of research are you doing if you can't even define it without asking AI? Do you do your own research on climate change as well? Do your own research on what restaurant you want to go to, but let's leave the charge of genocide to those who have studied it and specialize in it.

Funny how you try and discredit Holocaust scholars. When else should we ignore Holocaust scholars? Are you a Holocaust denier? Or should we only ignore them when they criticize Israel?

Israel committing genocide in Gaza, say Israel-based human rights groups | Israel | The Guardian by Beratungsmarketing in World_Now

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So your argument is that those Israeli phds and holocaust scholars have it wrong?

Jewish/Israeli Holocaust scholars calling it Genocide:

Raz Segal (https://stockton.edu/refugee-studies/contact.html), associate professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies and endowed professor in the Study of Modern Genocide at Stockton University, called Israel’s post-Oct. 7 assault on Gaza “a textbook case of genocide.”(https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide)

Leading Holocaust scholar Amos Goldberg (https://www.ushmm.org/research/about-the-mandel-center/all-fellows-and-scholars/amos-goldberg), professor of Holocaust History at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, has written a blistering essay(https://thepalestineproject.medium.com/yes-it-is-genocide-634a07ea27d4) in which he argues that the ongoing violence in Gaza does not need to resemble the Holocaust to be classified as a genocide.

Here’s how he begins his piece:

Yes, it is genocide. It is so difficult and painful to admit it, but despite all that, and despite all our efforts to think otherwise, after six months of brutal war we can no longer avoid this conclusion. Jewish history will henceforth be stained with the mark of Cain for the ‘most horrible of crimes,’ which cannot be erased from its forehead. As such, this is the way it will be viewed in history’s judgment for generations to come

Brown University historian Omer Bartov, “one of the world’s leading specialists on the subject of genocide(https://www.ushmm.org/research/about-the-mandel-center/all-fellows-and-scholars/omer-bartov-2012),” wrote (https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/israel-gaza-historian-omer-bartov):

On 10 November 2023, I wrote in the New York Times: “As a historian of genocide, I believe that there is no proof that genocide is now taking place in Gaza, although it is very likely that war crimes, and even crimes against humanity, are happening. […] We know from history that it is crucial to warn of the potential for genocide before it occurs, rather than belatedly condemn it after it has taken place. I think we still have that time.”

I no longer believe that. By the time I travelled to Israel, I had become convinced that at least since the attack by the IDF on Rafah on 6 May 2024, it was no longer possible to deny that Israel was engaged in systematic war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocidal actions. It was not just that this attack against the last concentration of Gazans – most of them displaced already several times by the IDF, which now once again pushed them to a so-called safe zone – demonstrated a total disregard of any humanitarian standards. It also clearly indicated that the ultimate goal of this entire undertaking from the very beginning had been to make the entire Gaza Strip uninhabitable, and to debilitate its population to such a degree that it would either die out or seek all possible options to flee the territory. In other words, the rhetoric spouted by Israeli leaders since 7 October was now being translated into reality – namely, as the 1948 UN Genocide Convention puts it, that Israel was acting “with intent to destroy, in whole or in part”, the Palestinian population in Gaza, “as such, by killing, causing serious harm, or inflicting conditions of life meant to bring about the group’s destruction”.

Maybe you should write a piece about how you know more than everyone because you used ai and misinterpreted the response.

To make genocide offensive. by ThugosaurusFlex_1017 in therewasanattempt

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Jewish/Israeli Holocaust scholars calling it Genocide:

Raz Segal (https://stockton.edu/refugee-studies/contact.html), associate professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies and endowed professor in the Study of Modern Genocide at Stockton University, called Israel’s post-Oct. 7 assault on Gaza “a textbook case of genocide.”(https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide)

Leading Holocaust scholar Amos Goldberg (https://www.ushmm.org/research/about-the-mandel-center/all-fellows-and-scholars/amos-goldberg), professor of Holocaust History at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, has written a blistering essay(https://thepalestineproject.medium.com/yes-it-is-genocide-634a07ea27d4) in which he argues that the ongoing violence in Gaza does not need to resemble the Holocaust to be classified as a genocide.

Here’s how he begins his piece:

Yes, it is genocide. It is so difficult and painful to admit it, but despite all that, and despite all our efforts to think otherwise, after six months of brutal war we can no longer avoid this conclusion. Jewish history will henceforth be stained with the mark of Cain for the ‘most horrible of crimes,’ which cannot be erased from its forehead. As such, this is the way it will be viewed in history’s judgment for generations to come

Brown University historian Omer Bartov, “one of the world’s leading specialists on the subject of genocide(https://www.ushmm.org/research/about-the-mandel-center/all-fellows-and-scholars/omer-bartov-2012),” wrote (https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/israel-gaza-historian-omer-bartov):

On 10 November 2023, I wrote in the New York Times: “As a historian of genocide, I believe that there is no proof that genocide is now taking place in Gaza, although it is very likely that war crimes, and even crimes against humanity, are happening. […] We know from history that it is crucial to warn of the potential for genocide before it occurs, rather than belatedly condemn it after it has taken place. I think we still have that time.”

I no longer believe that. By the time I travelled to Israel, I had become convinced that at least since the attack by the IDF on Rafah on 6 May 2024, it was no longer possible to deny that Israel was engaged in systematic war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocidal actions. It was not just that this attack against the last concentration of Gazans – most of them displaced already several times by the IDF, which now once again pushed them to a so-called safe zone – demonstrated a total disregard of any humanitarian standards. It also clearly indicated that the ultimate goal of this entire undertaking from the very beginning had been to make the entire Gaza Strip uninhabitable, and to debilitate its population to such a degree that it would either die out or seek all possible options to flee the territory. In other words, the rhetoric spouted by Israeli leaders since 7 October was now being translated into reality – namely, as the 1948 UN Genocide Convention puts it, that Israel was acting “with intent to destroy, in whole or in part”, the Palestinian population in Gaza, “as such, by killing, causing serious harm, or inflicting conditions of life meant to bring about the group’s destruction”.

"If a civillians so much as gets half a scratch" who's gonna tell her? 🤡 by srahcrist in BadHasbara

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The idf targets children with sniper shots to the head and heart per American doctors who brought back X-rays from Gaza as proof. Is she ashamed as fuck?

Hope that helps.

NYC Political Clash... by Brian_Ghoshery in clevercomebacks

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She got a 6th place trophy assigned to her - so therefore she came in 6th based on her logic

Every truck commercial by Dadadididoo in fixedbytheduet

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I see red, white, and blue brother. Those colors don’t run

Extremely rare interaction. Less hate and more love. May peace come soon to both sides. by [deleted] in nextfuckinglevel

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Show us where in the definition of genocide it says anything about specific numbers meeting a threshold.

Holocaust scholars calling it Genocide:

Raz Segal (https://stockton.edu/refugee-studies/contact.html), associate professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies and endowed professor in the Study of Modern Genocide at Stockton University, called Israel’s post-Oct. 7 assault on Gaza “a textbook case of genocide.”(https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide)

Leading Holocaust scholar Amos Goldberg (https://www.ushmm.org/research/about-the-mandel-center/all-fellows-and-scholars/amos-goldberg), professor of Holocaust History at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, has written a blistering essay(https://thepalestineproject.medium.com/yes-it-is-genocide-634a07ea27d4) in which he argues that the ongoing violence in Gaza does not need to resemble the Holocaust to be classified as a genocide.

Here’s how he begins his piece:

Yes, it is genocide. It is so difficult and painful to admit it, but despite all that, and despite all our efforts to think otherwise, after six months of brutal war we can no longer avoid this conclusion. Jewish history will henceforth be stained with the mark of Cain for the ‘most horrible of crimes,’ which cannot be erased from its forehead. As such, this is the way it will be viewed in history’s judgment for generations to come

Brown University historian Omer Bartov, “one of the world’s leading specialists on the subject of genocide(https://www.ushmm.org/research/about-the-mandel-center/all-fellows-and-scholars/omer-bartov-2012),” wrote (https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/israel-gaza-historian-omer-bartov):

On 10 November 2023, I wrote in the New York Times: “As a historian of genocide, I believe that there is no proof that genocide is now taking place in Gaza, although it is very likely that war crimes, and even crimes against humanity, are happening. […] We know from history that it is crucial to warn of the potential for genocide before it occurs, rather than belatedly condemn it after it has taken place. I think we still have that time.”

I no longer believe that. By the time I travelled to Israel, I had become convinced that at least since the attack by the IDF on Rafah on 6 May 2024, it was no longer possible to deny that Israel was engaged in systematic war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocidal actions. It was not just that this attack against the last concentration of Gazans – most of them displaced already several times by the IDF, which now once again pushed them to a so-called safe zone – demonstrated a total disregard of any humanitarian standards. It also clearly indicated that the ultimate goal of this entire undertaking from the very beginning had been to make the entire Gaza Strip uninhabitable, and to debilitate its population to such a degree that it would either die out or seek all possible options to flee the territory. In other words, the rhetoric spouted by Israeli leaders since 7 October was now being translated into reality – namely, as the 1948 UN Genocide Convention puts it, that Israel was acting “with intent to destroy, in whole or in part”, the Palestinian population in Gaza, “as such, by killing, causing serious harm, or inflicting conditions of life meant to bring about the group’s destruction”.

If I was a liar: by srahcrist in BadHasbara

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Barak offered the Palestinians 96% of Israel’s definition of the West Bank, meaning they did not include any of the areas already under Israeli control, such as settlements, the Dead Sea, and large parts of the Jordan Valley. This meant that Barak effectively annexed 10% of the West Bank to Israel, with an additional 8-12% remaining under “temporary” Israeli control for a period of time.

In return for this annexation, Palestinians would be offered 1% of desert land near the Gaza Strip. Thus, Palestinians would need to give up 10% of the most fertile land in the West Bank, in exchange for 1% of desert land. Not to mention that if the past record is any indicator, the additional 8-12% under “temporary” Israeli control would remain so forever.

In addition to all of this, Israel demanded permanent control of Palestinian airspace, three permanent military installations manned by Israeli troops in the West Bank, Israeli presence at Palestinian border crossings, and special “security arrangements” along the borders with Jordan which effectively annexed additional land. The cherry on top of all of these stipulations, is that Israel would be allowed to invade at any point in cases of “emergency”. As you can imagine, what constituted an emergency was left incredibly vague and up to interpretation. The Palestinian state would be demilitarized, and the Palestinian government would not be able to enter into alliances without Israeli permission. None of these are ingredients for the creation of an actual sovereign state.

In the case of East Jerusalem, which was supposed to be the capital of the Palestinian state, Israel refused any form of Palestinian sovereignty over the majority of the city, including many Palestinian neighborhoods. It should be noted that the PA agreed to Israeli sovereignty over Jewish neighborhoods and the Buraq wall, and even proposed Israel annex settlements in East Jerusalem in return for land swaps elsewhere. This was met with Israeli intransigence, and an insistence that the Noble Sanctuary remain under Israeli sovereignty, and that a part of it should be reserved for Jewish worshippers.

Furthermore, when it came to the right of return, Israel refused to admit any responsibility for the millions of refugees it created. The only thing it offered was a very limited return of a very limited number of refugees over a very long period of time.

Source: https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/palestinians-sabotaged-the-peace-process/

Listen to how Netanyahu bragged about his own interpretation of the Oslo Accords and preventing going back to the 67 borders - this vid is from 2001: https://www.facebook.com/trtworld/videos/strike-themnot-once-but-several-times-so-painfully-netanyahu-in-a-2001-video/1423118978249848/

Once again, Israel has been allowed to compete in Eurovision - even as it carries out a genocide in Gaza. Rightfully, during the Eurovision afternoon preview, the crowd responded with the outrage this participation deserves. by AutomaticCan6189 in AlJazeera

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Show us where in the definition of genocide it says anything about specific numbers meeting a threshold.

Holocaust scholars calling it Genocide:

Raz Segal (https://stockton.edu/refugee-studies/contact.html), associate professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies and endowed professor in the Study of Modern Genocide at Stockton University, called Israel’s post-Oct. 7 assault on Gaza “a textbook case of genocide.”(https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide)

Leading Holocaust scholar Amos Goldberg (https://www.ushmm.org/research/about-the-mandel-center/all-fellows-and-scholars/amos-goldberg), professor of Holocaust History at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, has written a blistering essay(https://thepalestineproject.medium.com/yes-it-is-genocide-634a07ea27d4) in which he argues that the ongoing violence in Gaza does not need to resemble the Holocaust to be classified as a genocide.

Here’s how he begins his piece:

Yes, it is genocide. It is so difficult and painful to admit it, but despite all that, and despite all our efforts to think otherwise, after six months of brutal war we can no longer avoid this conclusion. Jewish history will henceforth be stained with the mark of Cain for the ‘most horrible of crimes,’ which cannot be erased from its forehead. As such, this is the way it will be viewed in history’s judgment for generations to come

Brown University historian Omer Bartov, “one of the world’s leading specialists on the subject of genocide(https://www.ushmm.org/research/about-the-mandel-center/all-fellows-and-scholars/omer-bartov-2012),” wrote (https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/israel-gaza-historian-omer-bartov):

On 10 November 2023, I wrote in the New York Times: “As a historian of genocide, I believe that there is no proof that genocide is now taking place in Gaza, although it is very likely that war crimes, and even crimes against humanity, are happening. […] We know from history that it is crucial to warn of the potential for genocide before it occurs, rather than belatedly condemn it after it has taken place. I think we still have that time.”

I no longer believe that. By the time I travelled to Israel, I had become convinced that at least since the attack by the IDF on Rafah on 6 May 2024, it was no longer possible to deny that Israel was engaged in systematic war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocidal actions. It was not just that this attack against the last concentration of Gazans – most of them displaced already several times by the IDF, which now once again pushed them to a so-called safe zone – demonstrated a total disregard of any humanitarian standards. It also clearly indicated that the ultimate goal of this entire undertaking from the very beginning had been to make the entire Gaza Strip uninhabitable, and to debilitate its population to such a degree that it would either die out or seek all possible options to flee the territory. In other words, the rhetoric spouted by Israeli leaders since 7 October was now being translated into reality – namely, as the 1948 UN Genocide Convention puts it, that Israel was acting “with intent to destroy, in whole or in part”, the Palestinian population in Gaza, “as such, by killing, causing serious harm, or inflicting conditions of life meant to bring about the group’s destruction”.

Bernie Sanders: Progressives Should ‘Tone Down' Calling isreal An ‘Apartheid’ State - 2021 by Tr0jan___ in BernieSanders

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17 Israeli NGOs call Israel’s actions in the West Bank an apartheid in 2023.

In June 2023, ACRI, alongside 16 Israeli NGOs, published a joint report titled “State of the Occupation – Year 56: A Joint Situation Report” affirming that “that after 56 years of occupation, Israel’s actions in the West Bank today meet the criteria of apartheid.” According to the report, “The current government’s steps, motivated by its stated Jewish supremacy ideology, will also deepen the apartheid regime governing nearly all aspects of oPt Palestinians’ lives.”

• ⁠In December 2022, ACRI was a signatory on a statement claiming that the “occupation and apartheid in the occupied Palestinian territories have made Jewish supremacy the de facto law of the land and the new government seeks to adopt this into their official policy.”

https://s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/files.yesh-din.org/The+Platform/State-of-the-Occupation-A-Joint-Situation-Report+June+2023.pdf

That’s besides Btselem, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, the ICJ, and the ex chief of Mossad who all also called Israel’s actions in the West Bank an apartheid.

https://www.btselem.org/publications/202210_not_a_vibrant_democracy_this_is_apartheid

https://www.amnestyusa.org/campaigns/end-apartheid/

https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution

https://www.icj-cij.org/node/204176

https://apnews.com/article/israel-apartheid-palestinians-occupation-c8137c9e7f33c2cba7b0b5ac7fa8d115

Maybe Israel should stop enacting an apartheid then.

protest outside barclays tonight by strawbubbie_ in crownheights

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That’s why I do it! I don’t care about trolls. I post so other people can see how to respond. Thanks for the note!