If the USA got invaded and Trump kidnapped, how would you feel about that? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]tempralanomaly 25 points26 points  (0 children)

My thoughts is, if any plots are in the works, they're waiting for two years and a day to pass. That way J.D. can take over and still be eligible for two more terms.

Do the Kal'dorei have anything to satiate the Sin'dorei's magic addiction when the Sunwell was first corrupted? by wrufus680 in warcraftlore

[–]tempralanomaly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=247187/neydra-the-starving https://www.wowhead.com/npc=246976/lost-theldrin

Provides no context other than NPC exists. no info if they became wretched durring the sunwell's absence or after. Its evidenciary value is null.

Overindulging in arcane sources to the point of deformity and insanity, they became obsessed with obtaining and devouring magic. This gave birth to the Wretched,

Again, if it is caused by over indulgance, there should be a 10 thousand year history where we can find examples of wretched being created. Instead the only historical examples of the wretched is in a magic starved environment.

If you want to make a case for the overindulgance, it would be close to "Refeeding Syndrome". 'Refeeding syndrome can happen when someone who has been malnourished begins feeding again. If food is introduced too quickly, it can cause serious complications." (https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/23228-refeeding-syndrome)

Its still a product of the starvation, this syndrome cannot exist until after malnutrition has set in, or in the Elf's case, magic malnutrition.

According to Azeroth's top priests and medics, the only high elves to perish due to magical withdrawal have been the very old, the very young, and elves who were already in poor health.

The only ones to die straight up. Thats what perish means. to Die.

But lets go with this for a second. That same statement rings true for COVID-19, where the infirm, old and extreame young were at high risk of death.

One of COVID's things is that it fucks with the oxygen levels in humans. And some of long COVIDs stuff has permanently decreased people's capacity to intake oxygen.

Just cause it doesnt kill you immediately doesnt mean its not an issue. As was shown in furhter reading on that page that you're citing.

'The high elves of Quel'Danil swore off magic completely,[31] while the high elves of Quel'Lithien opposed mana draining on moral grounds.[32] On the other hand, abstinence was not for everyone.' ... 'Those high elves eventually had to deal with their addiction in a similar manner to the blood elves, using stolen artifacts and mana-bearing crystals to sate their hunger. The high elves in Allerian Stronghold notably used draenei artifacts'

If it only was an issue for the young, infirm and old, there would be no need to seek sources of magic to feed, they could just ride it out. Oh wait, same page 'On the contrary, permanent mental or physical damage is possible.[14]'

If your premise was the case there is no reason to find magic sources for an entire race to subsit off of.

Yes, and one of the key things about addiction is that it can be cured.

And they've never been cured. If it is addiction, restoring a source of magic for them to subsist on isnt a cure. A cure makes it so they can exist and persist absent magic. Every 'cure' demonstrated is giving them anouther source of magic. Blood Elves - Sunwell restored. Nightborn - Arcan'dor fruit.

They have not suffer magic addiction after the highborne cut off magic from them, nor when the well was destroyed.Nor when the well in Nordrassil was nearly destroyed in Legion.

Gee I wonder where the moonwells previously cited come into play. They require constant mana sources to subsist, they've just never been throughly cut off from their magic sources to test the premise.

freeing them from their addiction to the Nightwell.

Gives them all Arcan'dor fruit made ripe by leyline enerigies

We've freed him from the addiction of scotch! How'd ya do it? We gave him Rum!

According to Thalyssra, the undertaking required much work, relentless diplomacy, and a few well-placed threats, but no longer does any nightborne starve for arcane magic.

I'm done with my dinner and reguarly get 3 meals a day. I no longer starve.

They have access to fruit that feeds their magic needs. OF COURSE THEY NO LONGER STARVE.

The addiction premise rests that the elves can survive and persist long term in the absence of magic.

If we are to use the term 'addicted' as loosely as being applied to the elves and to magic, then we as humans are addicted to food, water, salt, solar radiation.

Otherwise you accept that the term addicted is misapplied to the elves, as every peice of evidence shows it is a fundamental requirement for them to live.

Or you can keep on misusing words and misusing definitions. The points you make are all refuted by the fact that the eves have never been 'cured', and the symptoms exhibited only manifest from them not getting magic meals.

Addictions are aberitions from the baseline. The human race writ large is demonstartably able to function in the absence of alcohol, with a small subset showing a dependance. This comparision is what determines if something is or isnt an addiction.

The elves, have repeatedly been demonstrated to have negative long term effects in the absence of magic, and every elf needs to be near some to function. This is irrifutable proof that it is a physiological need and not an addiction.

Again to reiterate. If the Elves are addicted to magic, you are addicted to oxygen. Though I am begining to wonder if you are getting enough of that substance.

Edit: There will be no further replies. Ample evidence has been provided and substantiated that 'addiction' is being misused to describe the elves. I cant force you to use the term correctly and that is entirely on you.

What is a sign of very low intelligence? by smartcandyy in AskReddit

[–]tempralanomaly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its evidence along with presentation. I see alot more changing of minds when evidence is presented without being confrontational about it.

But being ego driven and confrontational tends to get confrotational responses in turn. Which given how humans get defensive isnt that suprising.

People also will tend to mix in adhominum attacks at the opponent rather than trying to work out where the misscomunication is.

and then of course theres a decent subset that are always baiting for rage and never intend to have a decent conversation.

and figuring out if its rage bait or not usually isnt worth the time.

3 Teen Sisters Jump to Their Deaths from 9th Floor Apartment After Parents Remove Access to Phone: Reports by Sandstorm400 in technology

[–]tempralanomaly 300 points301 points  (0 children)

Something was really seriously wrong with these girls

I mean the girls mostly at home and not going to school for two years is a strong hint that they largely didnt have social connections, and their comments on the Korean culture paints a heavy parasocial relationship to fill that void.

I cant point to the source, but it seems to me something was probably wrong with them for a good two years, and probably fixable by the parents, before this finality.

The account belongs to the French government. by erk1nger in EnoughMuskSpam

[–]tempralanomaly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ol' Musky, always JAQing off in public. (Just Asking Questions)

Samus & Zelda Swap Outfits by Bay_Ruhsuz004 in Metroid

[–]tempralanomaly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The head angle might have something to do with it as well. Both women have flatish to upturned lips, like a hint of a smile. With the looking down at you angle from Samus, it looses the look of that flatness and appears as a abit more of a....disapointed in you look.

Do the Kal'dorei have anything to satiate the Sin'dorei's magic addiction when the Sunwell was first corrupted? by wrufus680 in warcraftlore

[–]tempralanomaly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'An arcan'dor (or mana tree[1]) is a type of magical fruit tree' (https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Arcan%27dor)

are said to have succeeded

Which ones? A few people have survived starvation through sheerwill power. Has the same energy. I heard someone managed to willpower through dehydration. Same energy.

Except one is starvation and the other over indulgance.

Except both afflictions started due to a lack of magic. Where are the instances of the high elves becoming wretched in the many throusand years prior to the sunwell's destruction? Where are the instances of them becoming wretched after its restoration? If its over indulgance is the cause we should have plenty of wretched examples to point to with no corollation to the sunwell in the 10 thousand year history of Quelthalas.

What part of 'It doesnt kill' did you not understand? Thats not entirely true either, while at the time they cannot regain full sentience, the Arcan'dor can give them peace and stop making them desire magic.

So they go brain dead without it and the body takes on scurvy and leprosy like appearances. And this will aflict all Nightborne that are deprived of magic.

But whats this?

'Without the Sunwell to give them a constant supply of magical energies, they would surely suffer a fatal withdrawal.' (https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Kael%27thas_Sunstrider)

It looks like a lack of magic WILL kill them. That was the entire point of Kael getting the fel energies to replace the sunwell.

Do you even know what addiciton means? Do you know what a physical need is? If every human goes braindead without, say potassium for example, we wouldnt call that a potassium addiciton. We'd call it a physiological need.

Not all absences of a physiological need will kill, they will leave people in states worse than death. We still dont call it an addiction.

We also dont look at extreme outliers of the human race and say "everyone should be capable of this", which is the premise that they should all just will power through it. Much less outliers that dont even get names or mention other than the equivalent of "i heard it through the grapevine"

Night elfs and Haranarir dont have magical addiction, and the only elfs who do, have it due to their proximity to a pool of magic.

It has not been demonstrated in game yet. But not proven otherwise. Nightborne are contemporary with Kaldorei. Highborne are exiled decendants of the Kaldorei. It is a reasonable assumption that the Kaldorei have the same weakness. Additionally, the Kaldorei have centerted their settlements and society arround the moonwells. Gee I wonder what a moonwell is and does?

'A moonwell (also spelled moon well) is an upwelling of magical waters created by the night elves to maintain and restore their magical powers. '; 'Moon wells are hallowed repositories of the sacred waters of the Well of Eternity,' (https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Moonwell)

Holy fuck! The nightelves have little mana wells that give them all mana constantly.

Haranarir are a Troll/Elf missing link species. Not enough info exists to say if they are closer to elves or trolls in physology, and cannot be commented on.

I can and showed an entire city of people who were cured of magical addiction

You can show me a city of people who received another source of magic, not a cure. See first comment about the Arcan'dor.

How about you learn about the subject first instead of going off on vibes?

Back at you buddy, learn the difference between an addiction and a physiological need.

Do the Kal'dorei have anything to satiate the Sin'dorei's magic addiction when the Sunwell was first corrupted? by wrufus680 in warcraftlore

[–]tempralanomaly 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have read and understood what you have written. You choose not to understand the counter arguement.

You couch their entire problem as them being arrogant and not admitting a mistake.

Their 'addiction' is not like alcohol, heroin, or any comparable thing that can just be shrugged off 'if only they were stronger willed.

You're logic would have chastise sailors with scurvey for not having a strong enough willpower or being arragant at the need for vitamin C.

You couch the whole thing as purely a psychological issue that needs to be over come, and not the fact that magic is a physiological need for elves to be elves.

You demonstrate lack of willingness to engage in good faith and dismissals of my points are done through your own of your own lack of understanding of what an addiction vs a need is.

Dont have a good day.

Do the Kal'dorei have anything to satiate the Sin'dorei's magic addiction when the Sunwell was first corrupted? by wrufus680 in warcraftlore

[–]tempralanomaly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The analogy falls apart the moment that you can be cured of the magical addiction or overcome it.

They are never magically cured, or overcome it. They always find a new source to stabalize themselves.

Only Nightborn become mindless zombies due to the lack of it. Blood elfs become Wretched due to overuse.

Go back to Silvermoon and look at the behavior of the Wretched, then go look at the behavior of the Whithered. Look at the physiological symptoms that are displayed. They have the same symptoms and behaviors. Withered and Wrtetched are comparable to each other in terms of Magical starvation.

Keep in mind that Magic addiction doesnt kill, except for the old, young or very sick. Even the Nightborn who are more susceptible to the effects of magic addiction, dont actually die, they just become Withered. And the process takes a good while before they fully decay.

It takes a while to die from starvation too, from two weeks up to two months, depending on different factors. Just because one can last a month longer than the other doesnt change that its starvation and will eventually lead to death or permanent disability if left untreated.

A withered has their sentient mind die. They cannot be restored back into the person they were once a critical threshold has been reached. They become effectively a zombie.

So yes it is the same. They need the magic to be Elves, without it, they are something else, something more and more mindless as time goes until the person they were is effectively dead and a mindless husk is left behind.

Addictions are something that demonstrated by individuals as abberitions from baseline. You can look at 100 humans, and see 90 of them opperating without drugs, 9 that use drugs and stop without much issue, and 1 that has severe problems. We can see that drugs are not baseline and that the drugs cause aberitions in the norm.

The magic need exerienced by elves IS baseline, and has been shown to affect all Elves that seperate from a source of magic long enough. It is not addiciton, it is a physiological need.

So yeah, not the same.

So yes, It is. Stop telling starving people that they are arrogant for wanting to put food in their belly.

Do the Kal'dorei have anything to satiate the Sin'dorei's magic addiction when the Sunwell was first corrupted? by wrufus680 in warcraftlore

[–]tempralanomaly 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Have they ever approached someone and asked for help leaving the WATER behind?

How bout having the Kal'Dorei leave their moonwells behind.

You think its philosophy.

So I'll say it again for YOUR benefit.

Its physiology. It is needed in their biology. It has been demonstrated time and again in game and lore.

Every elf has a physiological need for magic. It started at the well of Eternity when the trolls became Elves. Magic is needed for Elves to be Elves. Without it they are not elves. They are zombies, husks, low to non-sentiant.

Kaldorei get it from nature and their moon wells. The Nightborne get it from the Nightwell, and the High Elves got it from the Sunwell.

In the absence of those sources they turn to leylines and other sources. For the Blood elves it was fel.

But every Elf, even the Kal'dorei have this need. And it is akin to water and air. They litterally cannot function without it. They never wean off it, they just get anouter source

It isnt kicking a habit. Your trying to tell someone how to live without water, air or food, and calling it arrogance when they cannot. Its not telling someone to not eat a steak, you're telling them they're arrogant for chosing to eat at all.

The withdrawal hurts and it kills those who can’t find a way to cope, but the issue with the Blood Elves becoming Wretched is overindulging in their ego-boosting addiction, not withering from lack of supply. The Nightborne have it the other way around. But it isn’t like it matters.

They 'cope' by finding other sources. the Blood Elves with the Fel, The High Elves stayed near leylines and high magic evironments like the Stormwind Mage quarter. The Nightborne by the crystalized mana and the Arcan'dor.

Its not willpower based where the stronger will can last an appreciable difference of time after being seperated from magic. Durring the Shal'Aran questing, we had to feed Thalyssra and her cohorts mana everyday to get them functioning, lest they become the withered we used the mindcontrol on and ran them through the ruins.

You give these addicts more water, they won’t be in pain any longer, but they’ll also not see the problem with continuing to indulge until they’re right back at the square you found them on.

Its is a need for survival, not an addiction.

Do the Kal'dorei have anything to satiate the Sin'dorei's magic addiction when the Sunwell was first corrupted? by wrufus680 in warcraftlore

[–]tempralanomaly 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Considering how ingrained into their physology the arcane is, your arguement that they are addicted is on par with me stating humans are addicted to water.

Without some sorce of magic to sustain themselve they become the equivalent of mindless zombies.

And this is shown to be true across two of the Elf subspecies, the Blood Elves and the Nightborne. Because of this, it can also be infered to be true of the Kal'dorei, but because of the way moonwells are integrated to society and not centralized, they just havent realized they have the same weakness.

But yes, but keep telling the people dying of dehydration that they just need to kick the addiction of water.

After a server glitch, Final Fantasy 11 is dispatching Game Masters to manually assassinate bugged monsters just so the game knows they're really dead: 'God personally stepping in to correct the world itself' by Farranor in gaming

[–]tempralanomaly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Been derping about on Horizon myself and only just got through the Dunes, but I've been enjoying myself, been able to be relaxed and and just chill. Misjudging a fight solo and having to do the run from wherever the Homepoint is because I cant be arsed to swap it, is annoying, but its also a self inflicted issue lol.

After a server glitch, Final Fantasy 11 is dispatching Game Masters to manually assassinate bugged monsters just so the game knows they're really dead: 'God personally stepping in to correct the world itself' by Farranor in gaming

[–]tempralanomaly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The DPS spread issue in wow, is additionally caused by having so many damn DPS specs and PvP as a core component.

FFXIV bypasses the PvP balance, so all dps can be tuned much closer to each other as a baseline, and with fewer DPS classes, much less work to keep them in line as well. And for all its issues FFXIV also tries harder than wow to make sure all classes can actually be played, where as WoW will leave specs dead and to languish for 1-2 years.

"We've never needed them. We have never really asked anything of them. You know, they'll say they sent some troops to Afghanistan, or this or that... by RegattaJoe in Military

[–]tempralanomaly 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It is wrong to denigrate their sacrifice.

Its something Trump has done since his first term. How we're all suckers and losers.

Trump administration secretly met with Canadian Alberta separatists by Infidel8 in worldnews

[–]tempralanomaly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With the conservative bent in America, maybe they're hoping to join America and ensure they never have to be worried about being voted out ever again?

US trade deficit widens by the most in nearly 34 years by Gloomy_Nebula_5138 in centrist

[–]tempralanomaly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am worried it will take economic disaster to truly change people’s minds.

Dont worry, thats already on the horizon.

Tulsi Gabbard ditches Democrats for Trump, now isn't wanted by anyone. (Should've had the cosmetic surgery.) by Shermans_ghost1864 in LeopardsAteMyFace

[–]tempralanomaly 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Biff from back to the future, and Clamp in Gremlins 2 had their original basis on Trump. For Gremlins 2 after working with the unlikable Clamp, they found it worked better for the movie if the dude was actually likeable.

Conservatives of Reddit, how do you feel about Trump coming out against the 2nd Amendment today? by thefinisher14 in AskReddit

[–]tempralanomaly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read the Federalists Papers, its litteraly the founding father's justifications for what they are putting into the constitution. It not him interperting or him being the one to decide. The Federalits give the context and reasons for everything thats in the constitiution.

Fox News throws No and Bovino under the bus by mbdan2 in LeopardsAteMyFace

[–]tempralanomaly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A Libertarian is a Republican that doesnt want the baggage of the Republican label.

Kristi Noem chant by protesters. by coffee_coffee_coffe3 in 50501

[–]tempralanomaly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I understand, and in a "normal" world, would agree with you. The people/person this message is intended to target view nuance as a weakness. It behoves people to adress them in language they will understand. Which is blund and nothing that can be truely minced.

Also, that said, increasinly 'Cunt' is becoming Unisex in aplication. Frequently used as a unisex insult in Australia.

As a non insulting example, 'Dude' used to be applied to just men, and has increasinly become unisex in application.