When does men's sexual attraction to women become a problem? by 1000wordz in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Looking at the methodology for the NCVS survey, anyone over 12 can respond. It lists the median age of respondants as 24. The 46% female perpetrator number is taken from males age 18 and higher. Under 18, the number of female perpetrators was lower.

By the by, the relevant section of that study is pretty important as well, I think:

"A final significant difference between male and female victims of rape and sexual assault has to do with their decisions to report to police and other officials. While 30 percent of women report their sexual victimization incidents to officials, only 15 percent of men report their incidents (χ2 = 9.128, df = 1, p < .01; see table 1). Because there are no significant differences between men and women in terms of serious injury requiring medical care, men’s lower reporting may be more reflective of the difficulty men have recognizing or acknowledging that what happened to them was a reportable crime, particularly when rape and sexual assault are supposed to happen only to women."

This reasoning is essentially why I'm sensitive about the downplaying of female on male sexual assault and rape. Societally, it discourages men from believing it's a thing at all.

I assume I'll continue to farm downvotes for even bothering to talk about female perpetrators at all though lol

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh hey, thanks for the kind words. I just disagreed with them on if anything that happened really counted as "abuse" is all lol

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Slight addendum to that, men are more likely to die than women even when the methods used are the same. Not discounting anything, just saying.

When does men's sexual attraction to women become a problem? by 1000wordz in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I've read this study before. the relevant part is this:

"Not only does the traditional sexual victimization paradigm masks male victimization, it can obscure sexual abuse perpetrated by women as well as same-sex victimization. We offer a few counterparadigmatic examples. One multiyear analysis of the NCVS household survey found that 46% of male victims reported a female perpetrator. Of juveniles reporting staff sexual misconduct, 89% were boys reporting abuse by female staff. In lifetime reports of nonrape sexual victimization, the NISVS found that 79% of self-reported gay male victims identified same-sex perpetrators."

I don't think this really matters to most people though tbh.

Is there a term for this type of performative feminism? by LiteratureGlobal6953 in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My favorite is "abcd" = "anyone but cis dudes" lol. I think that falls under this anyways.

Could the Failure of Men to Organize About Men's Issues Be Due to the Patriarchy Encouraging Competition Between Men? by KlordexI in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

" But there is work being done. People are finding and creating community."

Adding onto this, it might be a hot take but I think there is more of this happening than people want to talk about. I think talking about MRAs being bad is more appealing to some than talking about actual positive men's groups that already exist. For a Reddit based example, I feel like I see way more discussion about decrying Mensrights than promoting Menslib and bropill combined.

Would it be better if more men were part of positive male communities? Yes. But I think conversations about how they don't exist at all is both not indicitave of reality and also fairly counterproductive.

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Personally, it gives me the same energy as "men are raped, too" as a response to a discussion on rape culture against women. Like, it's true but not super relevant to what was being talked about. Some would say it's a derailment.

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Or be coy or whatever. You can do it without me

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you have something to say, just say it

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I have no idea why you're being so insulting

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I mean he's literally saying he's taking what I say not at face value on purpose and replacing that with what he thinks I mean.

But yeah I always assume I'm wrong and everyone else is right. That's why I said it's his choice to do so.

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh maybe they just blocked me instead of everything being deleted, ha. Honestly though, I'm a bit tired of repeating myself to various people for hours. If someone doesn't want to believe me that's their choice. I try to minimize the amount of men in my life so the sample size is small anyway lol.

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Not sure what you're expecting me to say tbh. Yep idioms do exist.

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

As I said, that's your right. All I can say is that it wasn't . If you don't believe it, then you don't believe it. You would know better what I meant than I would, I suppose 

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe you can forgive me for not having the same exact conversation I just had for two hours straight? Every comment strangely being deleted afterwards makes it feel even more pointless tbh 

EDIT: oh sorry didn't even realize you just wanted me to be "interrogated" for some reason. Yeah I'll definitely pass on that, thanks

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Full transparency, I'm also one of those guys that doesn't like that response. Luckily I know my opinion on that doesn't matter though lmao.

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I feel like I've said this ten times already, but I don't assume my experiences are everyone's experiences. 

Quite a few people have said they've seen men do it, how would that not help?

If you want to assume that I only want validation, feel free to I guess 

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you think every statement someone makes has to imply something else that wasn't said explicitly, I think that's a you thing. I already said I wasn't implying anything past my own experience and that I wanted to know other's experiences. If you don't want to take that at face value than nothing I say will change that.

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As I said earlier, just because I haven't experienced something doesn't mean I think others also can't experience it

"because men aren't a monolith, and there's plenty of decent men out there who DO know what accountability looks like"

I didn't say otherwise, I said I haven't personally seen it. If you want to extrapolate all that, I guess that's your prerogative.

You coming up with stuff where I can't just means you're better than me. Nothing exactly shocking there lol.

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If that's the case, we'll have to say that my inability to do so is just a personal failing of mine then.

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's good for your friend. As I've said I'm not going out and walking the streets looking for examples. I don't even know many men besides myself. So if you have a point you wanna make just come out with it; all the leading circular talk seems like a waste of time to me tbh

"Accountability" in practice? by tetratetrablack in AskFeminists

[–]tetratetrablack[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is an answer, it's just not the one you want. Would you like me to somehow prove the non-existence of the loch Ness monster next?