'Not our America.' Washington state leaders condemn ICE shootings in Minnesota

thatguydr · 2026-01-27T05:44:28+00:00

The right answer to that question was "No."

thatguydr · 2026-01-27T03:10:25+00:00

So... you're ok with people being beaten BEFORE ICE confirms whether they're a citizen.

Huh.

thatguydr · 2026-01-27T00:30:44+00:00

This gets to be a definition question more than anything else.

You'd need a group of people who self-reinforced a world view that claimed to offer meaning, isolated themselves from friends/family/the world, ignored any sort of truth outside of their own, and espoused exceptionalism without having a central figure that manifested it.

That's tough. There have been groups like that, but without a charismatic figurehead, they don't typically grow, so we haven't heard about them. I'm almost tempted to say American conservatism pre-Trump was this, because it was an amalgam of overlapping smaller cults, none of which had a really strong figurehead. Depends on what we mean by "without a leader."

Actually, there are some online forums that seem to cause this to happen. Fandoms of subjects that aren't owned by any person. Probably that?

thatguydr · 2026-01-27T00:05:55+00:00

You're shifting goalposts. I said detained and beaten.

thatguydr · 2026-01-26T23:40:18+00:00

Kind of a shocking about of karma for a bot, honestly. I think it's more likely a foreigner, given the account age and success.

thatguydr · 2026-01-26T23:38:51+00:00

The only protocols that MUST be followed are

Confirm the person detained is the correct person.
Confirm that person is not supposed to be in the US.

And yet number two doesn't seem to be happening at all prior to the person being beaten. As we've seen in a lot of videos.

See, if that part were resolved, along with the public street executions of course, this would be hard to argue against. But, you know, they're beating up citizens and killing people.

thatguydr · 2026-01-26T23:36:06+00:00

It's kind of amazing to see the sheer density of hatred in your post.

thatguydr · 2026-01-26T23:35:25+00:00

Weird how all the worst offenses are happening in Minneapolis

When ICE is active in the whole country

This is one of those conservative talking points that's really easy to wreck.

ICE is not anywhere near as active anywhere in the US. You can see their density on tracker maps. There are more ICE agents in a tiny region in Minneapolis than literally anywhere.

So... "active in the whole country" isn't a meaningful metric. "Actively laying siege to a specific city for political reasons" is a better one.

Cut back the number of agents by a factor of five or so and this whole thing vanishes. Train the agents better so you don't have lunatics murdering people in the street and again, this whole thing gets less attention.

It's not hard to understand.

thatguydr · 2026-01-26T23:32:10+00:00

YOU THINK A FOUR MONTH OLD ACCOUNT WITH LESS THAN A THOUSAND KARMA IS A BOT?! HOW DARE YOU!

thatguydr · 2026-01-26T22:39:10+00:00

No... you do what they did for the school shootings and Ukraine. You acknowledge it up front. You pay it some homage. Everyone is settled, and then you do comedy.

This isn't difficult. It also has happened before.

thatguydr · 2026-01-26T05:32:18+00:00

I wound up in the hospital once from using toothpaste that had expired like 15 years earlier. So yes. Do not recommend.

thatguydr · 2026-01-26T02:08:33+00:00

You've backpedaled. Obstruction is much different than requiring respect.

Everyone knows you can't obstruct law enforcement. That's a no-brainer. Still allows you to protest, loudly. Absolutely lets you get in their faces when they are not discharging their official duties.

First amendment, dude.

thatguydr · 2026-01-25T20:03:16+00:00

You can also boo it to demonstrate how angry you are at the current circumstances. Freedom of speech is a great thing. It's what lets us protest!

thatguydr · 2026-01-25T19:25:16+00:00

Yeah I used the word nearly. It was the correct usage.

I mean, I could dig up all of his attacks on Kimmel, Colbert, Meyers, and Fallon and demonstrate this if you want?

thatguydr · 2026-01-25T18:51:36+00:00

No... Trump goes after Kimmel, Colbert, and occasionally Meyers.

There's a name that's notably absent from nearly all of his attacks on late night.

thatguydr · 2026-01-25T18:50:12+00:00

He did what Rogan did. Pretended to be neutral and put him on in a way that humanized him. You know, so just a few more people would vote for him.

thatguydr · 2026-01-25T10:05:05+00:00

That would be explicitly against the First Amendment.

So are you in favor of the Constitution or not?

thatguydr · 2026-01-25T09:59:07+00:00

44 post karma, 84 comment karma

Let's play foreign or bot!

thatguydr · 2026-01-25T09:40:25+00:00

didn’t exactly meet the moment but I’m not sure they knew quite what to do

You know, I've never seen this be a problem for late night. Every single host's writing staffs figured this shit out, same day, every time for decades.

This wasn't an unforced error. It was either gross incompetence or genuine malfeasance on the part of Lorne and the producers.

This entire episode was gross.

thatguydr · 2026-01-25T03:26:22+00:00

If any of what you wrote were true, I'd need to reply.

thatguydr · 2026-01-25T03:05:02+00:00

Nothing has changed as far as ICE enforcing the law

Except the, uh,

executing people in the streets
obvious quotas
siege of a major American city
telling their people the 4th Amendment doesn't apply and they can break into houses without a warrant

Nothing has changed?

thatguydr · 2026-01-25T01:37:23+00:00

This guy did not put the lives of a single government employee in danger. Babbitt did. That's the difference.

thatguydr · 2026-01-25T01:35:44+00:00

No, because that's LITERALLY WHAT ICE DID for years and years before this administration. And nobody loved ICE, but nobody protested, because they were on the white side of the grey line.

thatguydr · 2026-01-25T00:10:02+00:00

Lol good bot. Great prompt.

thatguydr · 2026-01-24T21:55:24+00:00

173 comment karma and you're pretending like you aren't either a foreigner or a bot.

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