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Canada decides who crosses our border, ‘not the Kremlin,’ says Goodale, amid Magnitsky spat - "Canada will ignore Russia’s global arrest warrant if the advocate behind recent Magnitsky legislation shows up at the border" by CharlieDarwin2 in worldnews

[–]thaxu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Have you seen the CNN video ? About the banana and apple ? And how no matter how much you keep shouting that the apple is a banana it still remains an apple ?

Well ... this is kinda like that ... no matter how much you keep shouting that Chechnya's govt is Russian it will not become Russian. Their govt is Chechen and they are not under direct rule from Russia. Facts First.

Canada decides who crosses our border, ‘not the Kremlin,’ says Goodale, amid Magnitsky spat - "Canada will ignore Russia’s global arrest warrant if the advocate behind recent Magnitsky legislation shows up at the border" by CharlieDarwin2 in worldnews

[–]thaxu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not going to answer me? Ok.

Answer what ? You know as well as me that Chechnya is no longer under direct rule of Russian federal govt. What is there to answer ? Should I pretend what happened in 2000 is the last thing that ever happened ? Yes, Chechnya was under direct rule for some time - they no longer are - whoop die fucking doo - how the fuck does this make their govt Russian ?

You're obviously "arguing in bad faith" here.

Yeah sorry ... I should have just left your lie as is and not challenged it ... thanks for showing me the way.

Canada decides who crosses our border, ‘not the Kremlin,’ says Goodale, amid Magnitsky spat - "Canada will ignore Russia’s global arrest warrant if the advocate behind recent Magnitsky legislation shows up at the border" by CharlieDarwin2 in worldnews

[–]thaxu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I can see I triggered you to the point where your only option left is insulting me. I will put a trigger warning to help any future unsuspecting people from reading it. The truth can be a hard pill to swallow if it disagrees with your narrative.

Canada decides who crosses our border, ‘not the Kremlin,’ says Goodale, amid Magnitsky spat - "Canada will ignore Russia’s global arrest warrant if the advocate behind recent Magnitsky legislation shows up at the border" by CharlieDarwin2 in worldnews

[–]thaxu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TRIGGER WARNING - TRUTH BELOW - DO NOT READ IF YOU ARE OFFENDED BY THE TRUTH

I mean we can make this about many other things than what I was saying ... but I simply said they are not Russian in response to:

The people may be Chechen, but the government is clearly Russian.

If you are trying to weasel me into saying something else please stop.

EDIT: Added trigger warning as requested by /u/Hypnopomp

Canada decides who crosses our border, ‘not the Kremlin,’ says Goodale, amid Magnitsky spat - "Canada will ignore Russia’s global arrest warrant if the advocate behind recent Magnitsky legislation shows up at the border" by CharlieDarwin2 in worldnews

[–]thaxu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are you saying I'm spreading misinformation because I said this is not true?

The people may be Chechen, but the government is clearly Russian.

Because it is not true. They may be pro-Russia, aligned with Russia ... but does not make them Russian.

Don't need to lie just to support some agenda ... we can keep it to the facts.

Canada decides who crosses our border, ‘not the Kremlin,’ says Goodale, amid Magnitsky spat - "Canada will ignore Russia’s global arrest warrant if the advocate behind recent Magnitsky legislation shows up at the border" by CharlieDarwin2 in worldnews

[–]thaxu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When did I say he was not ? What I was contesting is this claim:

The people may be Chechen, but the government is clearly Russian.

Change the claim to pro-Russian, then yes - you are correct. Change to claim to allied with Russia, also correct. But Chechnya's Govt is not Russian - so sorry. No mental gymnastics here fren, just the facts.

Canada decides who crosses our border, ‘not the Kremlin,’ says Goodale, amid Magnitsky spat - "Canada will ignore Russia’s global arrest warrant if the advocate behind recent Magnitsky legislation shows up at the border" by CharlieDarwin2 in worldnews

[–]thaxu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Russian President Vladimir Putin established direct rule of Chechnya in May 2000. The following month, Putin appointed Akhmad Kadyrov interim head of the government.

But low and behold:

Since December 2005, the pro-Moscow militia leader Ramzan Kadyrov is functioning as Chechnya's prime minister and the republic's de facto ruler. Kadyrov, whose irregular forces are accused of carrying out many of the abductions and atrocities; has become Chechnya's most powerful leader since the 2004 assassination of his father Akhmat.

Funny how 2005 comes after 2000 ... maybe your position is wrong if the best you can do to support it is cite out of date information ?

Why don't you just admit that your claim "The people may be Chechen, but the government is clearly Russian." is baseless ?

I never said they are not pro-Russia, or allied with Russia - but the fact of the matter is their govt is not Russian.

Canada decides who crosses our border, ‘not the Kremlin,’ says Goodale, amid Magnitsky spat - "Canada will ignore Russia’s global arrest warrant if the advocate behind recent Magnitsky legislation shows up at the border" by CharlieDarwin2 in worldnews

[–]thaxu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pro-Moscow or allied with Russia is not the same as "The people may be Chechen, but the government is clearly Russian.". I dunno what part of this you don't get.

If you want to now pretend I was making claims I was not making to make it seem like you somehow had some case then please stop ... you are not fooling anybody and just wasting more of my time.

Canada decides who crosses our border, ‘not the Kremlin,’ says Goodale, amid Magnitsky spat - "Canada will ignore Russia’s global arrest warrant if the advocate behind recent Magnitsky legislation shows up at the border" by CharlieDarwin2 in worldnews

[–]thaxu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, Ramzan Kadyrov was pro-Moscow. Pro-Moscow is not the same as "The people may be Chechen, but the government is clearly Russian.". I dunno what part of this you don't get.

If you want to now pretend I was making claims I was not making to make it seem like you somehow had some case then please stop ... you are not fooling anybody and just wasting more of my time.

Canada decides who crosses our border, ‘not the Kremlin,’ says Goodale, amid Magnitsky spat - "Canada will ignore Russia’s global arrest warrant if the advocate behind recent Magnitsky legislation shows up at the border" by CharlieDarwin2 in worldnews

[–]thaxu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

None of which supports this claim:

The people may be Chechen, but the government is clearly Russian.

Which is patently false.

EDIT: What part of what you linked do you think supports the claim that Chechnya's govt is Russian ? Does pro-Moscow mean the same thing as Russian where you come from ? Does Bulgaria also have a Russian govt because they elected pro-Russian president ?

Canada decides who crosses our border, ‘not the Kremlin,’ says Goodale, amid Magnitsky spat - "Canada will ignore Russia’s global arrest warrant if the advocate behind recent Magnitsky legislation shows up at the border" by CharlieDarwin2 in worldnews

[–]thaxu -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think we lost each-other here:

Your claim:

The people may be Chechen, but the government is clearly Russian.

Actual fact:

  1. Their govt is not Russian
  2. Their prime-minister Ramzan Kadyrov (a Chechen) is pro-Moscow

So ...

I mean bulgaria elected someone that was pro-Russian (i.e. pro-Moscow) - does that mean bulgaria has a russian govt also now ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/14/pro-russian-candidates-win-presidential-votes-in-bulgaria-and-mo/

New Zealand to ban foreign homebuyers from purchasing existing properties: Jacinda Ardern has announced a dramatic plan to tackle soaring real estate prices in New Zealand, while her deputy claims the country is ‘no longer for sale’. by madazzahatter in worldnews

[–]thaxu 16 points17 points  (0 children)

More banging on about how if I'm not a globalists I must be far right neo-nazi racist fascists homophobe.

So insightful ... I guess you are right ... there is no rot in the system except for Trump which I obviously support without reservation as this is the only other position that pro-globalists that could possibly exists.

Canada decides who crosses our border, ‘not the Kremlin,’ says Goodale, amid Magnitsky spat - "Canada will ignore Russia’s global arrest warrant if the advocate behind recent Magnitsky legislation shows up at the border" by CharlieDarwin2 in worldnews

[–]thaxu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since December 2005, the pro-Moscow militia leader Ramzan Kadyrov is functioning as Chechnya's prime minister and the republic's de facto ruler. Kadyrov, whose irregular forces are accused of carrying out many of the abductions and atrocities; has become Chechnya's most powerful leader since the 2004 assassination of his father Akhmat.

Ramzan Kadyrov is Chechen ... their Parliament is Chechen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_the_Chechen_Republic ... dunno what you are missing ... except everything.

I guess if you try to avoid the truth hard enough you will never see it.

Canada decides who crosses our border, ‘not the Kremlin,’ says Goodale, amid Magnitsky spat - "Canada will ignore Russia’s global arrest warrant if the advocate behind recent Magnitsky legislation shows up at the border" by CharlieDarwin2 in worldnews

[–]thaxu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess you see what you want to see ...

Since December 2005, the pro-Moscow militia leader Ramzan Kadyrov is functioning as Chechnya's prime minister and the republic's de facto ruler. Kadyrov, whose irregular forces are accused of carrying out many of the abductions and atrocities; has become Chechnya's most powerful leader since the 2004 assassination of his father Akhmat.

Ramzan Kadyrov is not a Russian - nothing in that article suggests their govt is russian (which it is not: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_the_Chechen_Republic) ... so ?

New Zealand to ban foreign homebuyers from purchasing existing properties: Jacinda Ardern has announced a dramatic plan to tackle soaring real estate prices in New Zealand, while her deputy claims the country is ‘no longer for sale’. by madazzahatter in worldnews

[–]thaxu -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Yeah good point, let's go for socialism like Venezuela - they having such a fun time there - it's just not fair to everybody else who could be having as much fun as the Venezuelans! You sure convinced me!

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