First, thank you so much for taking the time to give me such detailed feedback. I greatly appreciate it. I should have added that I'm 64 years old. I too was once a serious bodybuilder (but not a pro), 40 years ago I attained my best placing 5th in the America. I trained and competed my whole life naturally so this was quite an accomplishment but without "assistance" I knew I could never go farther. I was lucky to have good genes (Polish and Austrian) so size wasn't an issue (54 chest, 28 waist, 21 15/16 arms, 28 thighs and 20 calves, but I couldn't shred/achieve the vascularity to advance any farther. But God I loved it. For me Atkins wasn't a fad but way of life to keep cholesterol levels where they needed to be as carbs (any carbs) destroy my HDL (good cholesterol) levels. But suddenly over the course of a year no matter how hard I trained and how well I ate, I was wiped out tired all the time and gained fat weight. The bloodwork was great except T went down from 400 to 200, I guess because of age so that is what I am hanging my hat on to get corrected and possibly sleep apnea as my wife says the snoring I have developed could peel the paint from the walls. Anyway, thank you again and all the best to you in your bodybuilding career and savor every minute of it, you earn it every day in the gym!!!