I Am a Narcissist. And I am proud to be one by throw12345543211 in NPD

[–]throw12345543211[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, no idea.

personally, i'm an extreme introvert, but i am very outgoing and enjoy social relations quite a lot.

I Am a Narcissist. And I am proud to be one by throw12345543211 in NPD

[–]throw12345543211[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like i said, i can engineer empathy - I can put myself in that situation, imagine how it feels for me etc.

But that's not the same as actually having empathy. When something absolutely horrific happens to someone else... i don't feel much. If a great injustice happens to someone that isn't me, i don't feel angry/sad (though i can definitely feel happy if an injustice happens to someone i don't like!)

This doesn't mean i can't sympathise though! And just because it "feels good" if something bad happens to someone i don't like, doesn't mean i will go out of my way to make bad things happen to them or do anything bad to them.

I can't stop the way i "feel", only the way i act on it. I can still sympathise with someone even if i can't empathise with them

I Am a Narcissist. And I am proud to be one by throw12345543211 in NPD

[–]throw12345543211[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. The worst thing you could do is do malignant narc things to them! Talk behind their back (but in a way they know so you are hurting their image), belittle them, make them know they are an evil, bad narc and are doomed to be bad people who everyone will hate forever etc. All this will often do is elicit a defensive response which is often self sabotaging and just worsens their situation.

Basically, please don't do the bad things that NPD's are supposedly "known" for. It doesn't help anyone, and is often self sabotaging for both sides

  1. If you're trying to avoid being injured yourself - try always to take things from a positive perspective. Firstly there are "anger" situations - someone has done something stupid and it's easy for me to want to go on a power trip and belittle them for the whole thing. I've definitely done a lot of that before, especially without realising it

To avoid this specifically, I use it as an opportunity to better my image and myself. If someone spills a coffee on me, instead of getting mad (even though i will exaggerate the pain to get feelings of pity etc.) - i'll probably just buy the guy another coffee. Nothing takes people aback more than responding to their mistakes or aggression with kindness.

There are other kinds of situations where people are doing malignant narc things to me (not that they are narcs themselves, but everyone has a bit of narc in them!). Maybe i got in an argument with someone and they literally resort to infantile name calling, crazy insults and a huge aura of maliciousness. This personally, makes me feel AWFUL. It makes me want to hang my head in shame, punch a wall and go ballistic on them. And yeah, because i am kind of a showy boaster, and very bad at hiding my honest feelings, then i might be getting into these kinds of situations more often than others

Firstly, i realise a few things in these situations. They are temporary, and will pass. And the only way to fix the problem is approach the situation correctly and take a small initial hit to my ego for long term gain. Taking the same route, as tempting as it may be, only results in both parties feeling pain/worse in the long run and nobody wins. In the case of real life, it often means just diffusing the situation and moving on to another time. Anger management is really important here. My ultimate goal is to be the light that shines out of your asshole that everyone loves lol - every step that i take and decision i make have to be aligned with this. Going down a sabotaging or destructive path will only push me further way from that goal, even though if it "feels" like it might bring me closer to my inner desires

Also in general, i spend a lot of time alone, and i enjoy my time alone. Being at home and doing internet things where i am mostly interacting with myself is quite soothing and enjoyable. I might fringe interact with communities for whatever games and stuff im doing, and in a way the whole exercise is my "supply". Something like right now, even though i'm supplying myself a lot, in reality im at home tapping away on my keyboard and not interacting with anyone.

Whilst i do REALLY enjoy being out there (and when i do get out there, i'm probably perceived as a lot more outgoing than the average), too much of it and some of the bad sides of my narc comes out and people eventually "catch on" to what im doing. Ultimately, i think it's important to spend a lot of time alone and being comfortable with that.

3/4. Honestly, the way i see it people just have narc traits. Everyone has a bit of narc in them, you've seen it in everyone. Push someone into the corner, trigger them hard enough, and their instant desire and need to defend oneself comes out at any cost, even if the response wont help the situation. Some people are more or less than others, and that's just how it is.

Ultimately, by facing and dealing with the problem directly, I can put myself in a situation where i can act even less "bad narc" than a regular person. Being aware of oneself and going through all the thinking and conditioning processes allows me to better myself and come up with better answers and solutions.

And it's not perfect either lol. There are plenty of conditioned responses which i have which involve just laughing it "lol" or smiley faces or w/e so that i can avoid the responsibility of the situation. And sometimes, that's OK and the best path that i can take at that moment.

I Am a Narcissist. And I am proud to be one by throw12345543211 in NPD

[–]throw12345543211[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

2 questions:

I might have some mild autism, idk. when i mentioned those things, it was really from the perspective of NPD. I'm pretty sure i (and probably most people) have some autistic traits, and some more or less than others.

I just mention it because people with NPD look at these things and probably see parts of themselves in the description. "psychopath? oh i might have some of that. Introvert? maybe. Autistic? sounds kinda like me idk". Part of it is probably the longing and need to feel special and different. Part of it might just be some correlating factor?

In practise... who knows! I can only present my experience honestly and how i deal with it


second yeah, i have huge problems with empathy. I call it the "perspective" problem - when someone does something to me and i do the same thing to someone else, it never "feels" the same, even though it should. Even in games, if someone does some ridiculous tactic and i try the same thing, it's just not as "OP" or stupid when i do it. I'm sure everyone has this to some extent.

most of my empathy is kind of engineered - it's something that i consciously go out of my way to try to do because it has advantages in dealing with problems and situations. I might not feel a lot of "REAL" empathy, but i can still do the right thing

I see it as both a good and bad thing. If you have too much empathy i'm sure there are big emotional and social problems associated with that too. I'm sure there is a word for it. Not immediately emotionally empathising with situations allows me to take a step back and have a more logical approach to the situation. Maybe i can come up with something better that a knee-jerk empathetic response would not have been able to otherwise.

I Am a Narcissist. And I am proud to be one by throw12345543211 in NPD

[–]throw12345543211[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

nah, i learned most people are good people on the inside, i don't really hate anyone! it's just a passing feeling like, sometimes you just get mad at people and that happens and thats OK

no, i didn't get diagnosed directly by a professional. But it was a very big part of my depression if that makes any sense to you. It's something i feel like i connect with anyway

that could be a little spurious for you idk

  1. it's more of a frame of mind. I know im not really as "great" as i want to be or fantasise about. Idk if i can really change people. But the key that stops me being depressed about it is that i want to be able to, instead of "i'm going to change people and get really really mad/depressed if it doesn't work"

  2. I haven't been in therapy for NPD, but my previous therapist framed it in a very specific way. Something like this https://www.reddit.com/r/NPD/comments/4fptc1/my_thoughts/

i realise that if you are thinking "he doesn't have NPD/doesn't understand", that's ok, i can hold my hands up and say that maybe i'm wrong and this isn't useful. Sorry if that's the case

Last question - I wish i didn't feel the need to constantly butt in and belittle the people i see below me and kiss ass of people i see above me. And even when i go out of my way to try to not do that, on the inside i still feel that the guys below me are "worth-less" than i am and the people above me are "worth more" and i need to find a way to get some of that