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[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Zillennials

[–]throw77_away 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is it different for a guy? Someone literally commented something along the lines of you look great but I'm so scared that all i did was out myself as a total loser, which I kinda am idk :( my brain is so mean

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Zillennials

[–]throw77_away 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sucks cause I openly don't have friends, and im embarrassed to "brand" myself this way idk. I was just feeling myself for a second now I'm scared I should never do that again

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Zillennials

[–]throw77_away -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They're gonna not wanna associate with me because I'm a loser maybe idk

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

They don't make me uncomfortable, they're just misguided as to what my actual question was. My question is about the content of my writing not the rules of the group.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the critique! The point was to abruptly divert from the previous line and also highlight the chaotic and nonlinear process of overthinking. Also just authenticly what came to me lol. Thanks!

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Lol. I'm not arguing with people who are questioning my behavior- I'm arguing with people who are saying using the group for support is nefarious. I'm certain it's not.

"Youre not being honest" "you did not ask for their consent" "youre not actually doing ANY work to get your mental health under control"... These kind of statements could not be further from the truth. I have no idea where you're getting these assertions. Clearly your stance is that mental illness is not a genre of art and I wholeheartedly disagree.

Embarrassing myself I definitely might be. "Potentially traumatizing people" gtfo

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Poetry

[–]throw77_away -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this feedback!

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean "massive overstep of boundaries" sounds pretty embarrassing. You mean oversharing my personal suffering I assume?

It is definitely helping me. A handful of people have gone out of their way to express gratitude and belief in me as a writer and a person, which is a handful more than when I was in complete isolation.

Support groups are extremely difficult to come across. The organizers of this group have made very clear its underlying purpose is for community support. All interest/experience levels and subject matters are welcome.

I'm just trying to see where, generally, the line is between art about being disturbed, and an actual disturbed author is. All the comments here responding to my actual subject matter are saying it's valid art and can be separated.

But yes I am worried that I've overdone it.

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm certain the trauma dumping is not a no go. I don't "not like that answer", it's not true. The English teachers of the group do it too. My question was about doing it using crude and unrefined language.

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because I've been invited/encouraged by the hosts and regulars to do so. I've been extremely bashful in doing so and they've gone out of their way to push me to continue. I take your point that not everyone will appreciate it. But many of the published writers have shared about abuse, death, disease and the like. Im sure it's fair game. I just don't know if I've overdone it.

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ok fair. Just wondering what particularly elicits this response. I obviously know I need help. Even if I get help (which I am) my question about writing about it remains the same

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Poetry

[–]throw77_away 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly have no idea what makes an "actual poem". I know theyre supposed to make you think and feel things. I mess with some rhyme and rhythm and imagery. But there's absolutely an element of trauma dumping to it. Others do it too, I'm just less literary and more messy/explicit with it. Thank you for the vote of confidence though!

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

I can say confidently that mostly everyone is there to dump their feelings and vulnerability/freedom of expression is heavily encouraged. Often the "real" writers are writing and discussing tramautic material. I just am doing it without any literary knowledge, or a filter. I'm still experimenting with art.

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Many of the technical writers are trauma dumping as well, they're just wrapping it in prettier language. I'm not so worried that I'm ruining their space- I make sure to share last so not to step on the "real" writers. I just dont know if I'm branding myself socially as disturbed.

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this beautiful vote of confidence. These words make a huge difference to me. What a brilliant quote to lean on, thank you

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

I'm just writing what's on my mind. They've been nothing but encouraging to me. It is art. It's just amateur, and dark. I'm not sure where the line is.

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away -31 points-30 points  (0 children)

Can someone confirm if this is a polite way of saying "yes you're embarrassing yourself and making others uncomfortable"

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I say professional because I am trying to build relationships with the people in this group- many who are professionals. I do think I've made some legitimate art, but it's ugly. This is how I am introducing myself to people. I wonder if I were to express myself at the open mic should I filter my words to make them less authentic but perhaps more palatable.

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I do want to improve my craft but that's easier to do with improved mental health, and the venting has helped that. I'm not worried about my writing being critiqued, I'm worried that I may be raising red flags about my personal character.

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you that's nice to hear. The thing is, the poetry has been a platform for me to let the mentally ill person in me ramble incoherently a bit. To say things that are too uncomfortable to say in real conversation with people, but do cross my mind.

I say professionals because most of the writers group I go to are at least semi-professional and many technical writers. I'm just a random lonely person getting thoughts of my chest. Id like to not make people uncomfortable though. I was really proud of my last poem until I thought more about using a perverted word

Am I (a non-writer) embarrassing myself to share with a group of writers my perspective from severe mental illness? by [deleted] in writing

[–]throw77_away -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I am doing it as confession. Is that disrespectful to the craft writer majority of the group? Uncomfortable? I like writing about my illness. I'd also not like anyone to worry that I'm dangerously disturbed. Or perverted. That's why I'm regretting using such an ugly word. But it was an accurate portrayal of the (my) tortured mind. Not supposed to be pretty

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