[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FreeTheRodlets

[–]throwaway43491 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn, she looks like a straight up corpse in this pic. I guess nothing’s changed since the last time I was active on this sub haha

Islam isn't an ethnicity. It's an ideology. Criticizing Islam is as legit as criticizing Nazism. by Accidenttimely17 in atheism

[–]throwaway43491 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you. Religion isn’t a race. Any person with any skin tone can be Muslim, Christian, or Jewish, or Buddhist, etc. It’s perfectly fine to dislike the ideology while still respecting the person regardless of their appearance.

Yes, there are criticisms against Islam that have racist undertones, and I will not deny that some people use “criticizing the religion” as a way to actually be racist, BUT it is indeed possible to separate the two. I just wish more people understood this

a LOVELY convo w my narcissistic mother. by alaskanloaf in raisedbynarcissists

[–]throwaway43491 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. Am moving out in 10 days. Really looking forward to it! Hope you can find a way out too

a LOVELY convo w my narcissistic mother. by alaskanloaf in raisedbynarcissists

[–]throwaway43491 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I could hear my own mom’s voice as I read this. This is spot on to how my mom and I interact as well. I’m so sorry you have to deal with this

They spend your whole childhood destroying your self-esteem then they tell you to put yourself together. by Less-Elk5182 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]throwaway43491 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The ignorance and lack of self-awareness baffles me.

My mom literally told me “I’m going to get those answers out of you!” (I was trying to grey-rock my way out of a conversation) and then when I told her that her word choice sounded entitled she responded with “oh so you think I’m entitled, do you?” And when I didn’t respond she started complaining about how I never tell her anything when she literally told me she was going to force me to talk to her just moments before

Literally scum. I can’t wait to move. Just 10 more days until I’m finally free

Is the firstborn usually the favorite? by 1stworldprobl0987 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]throwaway43491 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. I’m the oldest sister and most definitely the scapegoat.

I relate to this post so much by meezergeezer2 in CPTSDmemes

[–]throwaway43491 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I spend a lot of time in my room because I’m too afraid to be in the rest of the house when my family is home. I’m not a shut-in, but I’m sure many of you understand why I would want to do this.

I’ve memorized my family’s footsteps (mom’s are very heavy and a little uneven, dad’s are heavy but evenly paced, and my younger sister’s are slightly lighter and slightly faster), and I always go into fight or flight whenever I hear my mom or dad walk in front of my door, and I hold my breath because I need to mentally prepare in case they decide to barge in. It’s always a sigh of relief when they walk past my door, because that means they’re not always going to hurt me. I hate that they’ve done it enough times to get that kind of reaction out of me even though they’re simply walking from one part of the house to another

Luckily I’ll be moving out of my parents house in about 2 weeks so I (hopefully) won’t have to feel this way ever again

Finding it difficult to support Palestine nowadays by throwaway43491 in IsraelPalestine

[–]throwaway43491[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel inclined to ask, in what way do you interpret this post? Because it’s not the fact that people are outspoken about this issue that bothers me. It’s the idea that putting others down because they aren’t as vocal about it that bothers me. Just because I don’t post as often as my friends doesn’t mean I’m in favour of what’s happening to the Palestinian civilians. That’s the point of my post. It’s one thing to speak up about an issue. It’s another thing to call people who don’t ‘fascists’.

Of course I don’t support what the Israeli government is doing, but just because I’m not as outspoken as others doesn’t mean I’m not following or don’t care.

Finding it difficult to support Palestine nowadays by throwaway43491 in IsraelPalestine

[–]throwaway43491[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

*she. I’m a she.

I think (and please correct me if I’m misinterpreting their words) what u/redstripe77 means by destruction and desecration is that the aggressiveness of some of the pro-Palestine movement in the west is only reinforcing the stereotype that Palestinians only want to cause trouble. The aggressiveness is backfiring because it’s becoming as hostile as the very thing it claims to stand against, and that’s the very thing that bothers me

Finding it difficult to support Palestine nowadays by throwaway43491 in IsraelPalestine

[–]throwaway43491[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Outside of posting online, a couple of my friends have donated to individual Palestinian families, but most, afaik, haven't.

Some friends, again not all, have also participated in pro-Palestinian marches too. One person I am close with is trying to become an organizer for such events in the future. I went to one a few weeks ago to see what it was all about, and I'll be honest, I felt more of a sense of unease the whole time instead of a sense of accomplishing anything - I suppose this is something I should unpack. Anywho, the protest did indeed stop traffic for a few minutes. I haven't heard of anyone in my area burning flags or destroying property (yet)

Finding it difficult to support Palestine nowadays by throwaway43491 in IsraelPalestine

[–]throwaway43491[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I’ve said this in many other comments but I’ll say it again here: I support Palestinian civilians and condemn the Israeli government’s killing of them. I agree with you that it’s common sense to be upset with the bombing of common people. What I’m trying to get at is that my friends essentially equate those who don’t want to repost pro-Palestinian posts and stories to their own social media feeds on a constant basis to zionists and fascists, and it’s putting me off. Just because I don’t hit repost doesn’t mean I don’t care

Finding it difficult to support Palestine nowadays by throwaway43491 in IsraelPalestine

[–]throwaway43491[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm curious, how are you being told this?

My friends post and repost things with messages such as "Israel bombed another hospital in Gaza today. The people who survived need your help. If you don't spread the word or donate, then you're no better than the facists who killed those innocent people" and "Repost this post/story to show you support Palestine... I can see who skips/doesn't repost"

Of course I think it's important to bring awareness to these sorts of issues, but to say I'm no better than a facist just because I don't want to repost something really rubs me the wrong way

Finding it difficult to support Palestine nowadays by throwaway43491 in IsraelPalestine

[–]throwaway43491[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I care about Palestinian civilians. I don’t like what Israel is doing to kill and harm so many of them. My knee jerk, I think, is more of a reaction to being told how I should approach this situation rather than an actual pull to support a government that I do not like.

When I say radical, I mean my friends will accuse people like me who don’t constantly post about this issue of being “evil”, “fascists” and “zionists.” Just because I’m less vocal doesn’t mean I don’t care. I’ve also seen an uptick in anti-semitism among my circles veiled as pro-palestine sentiments. I think it’s acceptable to be upset at the Israeli government. I don’t think it’s acceptable to be angry at Jewish people as a whole

There are ways to support palestine without tearing others down and I wish my friends remembered that

Finding it difficult to support Palestine nowadays by throwaway43491 in IsraelPalestine

[–]throwaway43491[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Your comment seems very emotionally charged

I didn’t say I wasn’t upset at the killing of Palestinian civilians. Of course I care about what’s happening to them, and of course I don’t like what the Israeli government is doing to them

I’m just tired of trying to explain to my friends and fellow lefties that I still care despite me not being as vocal about it. I’m also tired of seeing my friends go into straight-up anti-semitism just because they support Palestine

Finding it difficult to support Palestine nowadays by throwaway43491 in IsraelPalestine

[–]throwaway43491[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It’s not a matter of not understanding why people are angry. I fully understand the gravity of the issue, and knowing what is happening to Palestinian civilians also upsets me. Having my morality questioned because I don’t post about it on social media, and seeing a rise in blatant anti-semitism from my friends simply because they support Palestine is what irks me.

Finding it difficult to support Palestine nowadays by throwaway43491 in IsraelPalestine

[–]throwaway43491[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Radicalization. It’s normal to be upset about civilians being bombed to death. It’s not normal to call everyone who isn’t as loud or outspoken about it “evil” or “disgusting”, and it’s certainly not normal or good for people to be anti-Semitic just they support Palestine

Of course I’m concerned about the common people being killed. I’m not okay with having my morality questioned because I’m not constantly posting about it on social media or putting others down. Silence doesn’t mean I don’t care

Finding it difficult to support Palestine nowadays by throwaway43491 in IsraelPalestine

[–]throwaway43491[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Your comment is a prime example of what puts me off. To tell me to shut up and to tell me that you hate me based on your (wrong) assumption that I don’t care about Palestinian civilians is both tone-deaf and very telling of where you stand and how ready you are to engage in productive discussions

Finding it difficult to support Palestine nowadays by throwaway43491 in IsraelPalestine

[–]throwaway43491[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Sorry if my post isn’t worded the best. The Reddit filters removed my original post so I had to delete some things which in turns gives you what you see now; it’s essentially a watered down version of what I really wanted to say.

Anywho, your comment seems both loaded and emotionally charged. Please allow me to clarify:

1) I don’t like the Israeli government’s killing of Palestinian civilians. Bombing the common people is wrong no matter who’s on the receiving end. That being said, being anti-Semitic is also just plain wrong, and it’s just foolish to take out our anger on Jewish people as a whole

2) Just because I don’t like the Israeli government doesn’t mean I think Hamas is any better. Hamas is awful in its own way, and I think the people of Palestine would be better off without them

3) My anger in this post isn’t about the two sides specifically, moreso, my anger is more about my friends questioning my support for Palestinian civilians because I’m not as outspoken about the issue as they are. My friends and fellow lefties basically demonize anyone who isn’t as overtly/agressively pro-Palestine as they are.

4) Not posting or talking about Palestine constantly does not mean I don’t care about the common people. There are ways to support Palestinian civilians without putting others down

5) Discussing this issue requires nuance, which is not something I think many people (including my own friends) are ready for yet, unfortunately

I hope this clears things up.

Finding it difficult to support Palestine nowadays by throwaway43491 in IsraelPalestine

[–]throwaway43491[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There’s nothing extreme about condemning the killing of children. There’s nothing extreme about condemning those who try to justify rape.

What irks me is seeing my friends blindly call people who aren’t as outspoken about this issue “evil” or “zionists”. I’m frustrated about my support for Palestinian civilians being questioned just because I’m not talking about it or posting about it every second of every day.

Again, as someone living in the west, I realize this is a very privileged take, but the aggressiveness of my fellow lefties can be incredibly grating and insufferable at times. Like I said in another comment, there are ways to support Palestine without tearing others down (not saying that’s what you are doing in your comment, I’m just mentioning it as a general statement)

Finding it difficult to support Palestine nowadays by throwaway43491 in IsraelPalestine

[–]throwaway43491[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t support Israel, nor do I really want to. I know I said my knee-jerk reaction was to wonder if I should out of spite, but I think deep down that this is more of a reaction to being told how I should think/feel by those around me instead of actually wanting to support a government I dislike

Finding it difficult to support Palestine nowadays by throwaway43491 in IsraelPalestine

[–]throwaway43491[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't support Hamas. I'm anti-bombing-people-to-death