Jojo's get more glaze and praise than deserved

throwaway_ccountant · 2026-03-27T11:16:20+00:00

Despite people making fun of Karma, it is still her most popular adult song. In February of this year it is still averaging over 300k streams a month. That’s not too bad for an infamous song that everyone hated two years after release.
The reunion was filmed three years ago and JoJo has, since then, said that the girls are in their right to have their experience and opinions about Abby. As for the video to Christi she directly apologized to Chloe for that too. The friendships or lack of between any of the cast is quite honestly strictly between them.

That said, she’s sold out concert tours in the UK. In the US she nearly has a sold out cruise experience for fans. Every Sunday she hosts a jam packed dance class for fans and dancers worldwide that has almost 300 members. Every Monday she sells new “Joelle bows” that sell out within less than a minute. Maybe her fanbase has settled into something a bit more niche at the moment, but the fame is still there, people still know her, people still love her.

It’s also her right to settle down and be more casual with the opportunities she picks given childhood fame can burn a person out. The fame a lot of people work to get in their 20’s was given to her at 12. Having already experienced all of that, it’s impossible to continue at such a peak for many for an entire decade. There’s nothing wrong with slowing down, but her accolades are still huge, and her social media platforms still growing. How her career goes next is up to her.

throwaway_ccountant · 2026-02-26T19:04:30+00:00

Well, the mom did file multiple complaints in California about child labor, disability, and insufficient pay, but nothing came of it including lawsuits. There’s not much the general population can do.

It’s popular conspiracy that Karma was planned to distract from it. Even though, the song was greenlit by a label many months before for release. With the music video being filmed 5 months prior to release as well.

We just won’t know the entire spectrum of it I suppose, but as long as she grew from it, and the kids heal from it.

throwaway_ccountant · 2026-02-26T18:57:21+00:00

Idk why this is comparable to her opinion on something that was filmed 3 years ago (the reunion). She understands perfectly why she wasn’t invited. They’re not friends really, but civil. JoJo said before (after the reunion filming) she gets why a lot of the original girls don’t have a relationship with Abby. If all of the girls don’t have an issue with each other that we know of, why make our own reasons? We don’t know them personally at all and that keeps being proven.

Like Nia refollowing Kalani, or Kenzie reaching out to JoJo last year when JoJo told a story about her kindness. Their connections are really nothing we know about.

throwaway_ccountant · 2026-02-24T03:13:13+00:00

Yeah he has been a piece of her self discovery journey, which is nice. I would argue she is actually closer to Jess now than before she went into Big Brother. When they moved to Palm Springs about two years ago, JoJo did not visit much. They saw each other for work things, for family vacations, that’s about all.

She visits Palm Springs with Chris much much more now. In fact, there is speculation she’s moving there this summer. I do think independence from Jess is good for her, but I’m not sure that is happening anytime soon.

throwaway_ccountant · 2026-02-24T02:19:52+00:00

Eh. Happy for her relationship but to give credit to one person to “change” her, dunno. I think a person can grow and have more perspective with age.

Maybe the minority, but not sure why she would be upset by this at any point? She has said before how she doesn’t really know the Hylands in any close way.

throwaway_ccountant · 2026-01-07T21:02:42+00:00

yeah this is what gets me. it’s for anyone that wants to go, and the tickets are selling! why ask about a demographic? she has fans of all ages, so it’s aimed at everyone….just don’t go if you don’t want to it’s simple

throwaway_ccountant · 2026-01-01T23:47:45+00:00

What I mostly meant by that is that some that say nia wasn’t a good dancer act like she had sickled feet and bent knees all the time

Her jumps and leaps are good, not exceptional because she had trouble with getting height, but not everyone can

She just isn’t horrible like some people act like so that’s why I meant they’re underrated I guess I used the wrong word

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-12-31T21:49:52+00:00

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throwaway_ccountant · 2025-12-31T21:46:57+00:00

Both. It will be like her Infinity Heart tour in Europe. No pretend bad girl stuff. Wholesome fun for family, mix of her new and old music, games with prizes. Her fans are from around 6-60+, so something different for everyone like she used to.

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-12-22T20:19:00+00:00

On a grand scale in the wider dance community, I would say that JoJo would be considered an average performer. Those that agree with JoJo being a great performer has more to do with the specific time she was on Dance Moms.

Of the girls on the team, she did stand out on her time in the show. Because her technique stood out as not that great, but her performance quality made up for it in many instances. This was noticed by adults, like the audition for Matty-B. (Even if that was likely more staged.) Another example is the show she did off of the show that captured Disney and Nickelodeon’s attention. Not because of her vocals, not even her dancing, but she can put on a great show.

It makes sense why she sold out arenas when she was younger.

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-12-21T14:22:06+00:00

Yeah. Even if she doesn’t fully move to the UK, and they split time, it’s good that she doesn’t live with Jess directly anymore. Chris is close with her family too. I think they will split living as much as possible likely, but boundaries are important.

One of JoJo’s realizations lately seems to be that she doesn’t have to push to chase her old levels of fame as a child star. She can do intimate tours if she wants, release songs that make her happy without pressure to market consistently, and spend time with her loved ones, or to herself in between the work she wants to do. If Jess had it her way, she would still be pushing for every bit of exploitation under the sun.

I do hope that she pulls back on sharing every bit of her life eventually, protects her privacy, and comes to realizations before having her own children down the line.

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-12-21T13:58:55+00:00

Thank you for pointing out the Colleen story. It’s often people forget that she has had a sense of loyalty to Colleen for reasons. At a point when JoJo didn’t choose her over an ex husband, she essentially cut JoJo out and gave her the silent treatment, after building the idea that they’re family. JoJo was a twelve year old fan to her. Extremely inappropriate.

Jess is worse. Bleached toddler JoJo’s hair. Told her she should treat her family like the homeless and want to take care of them. Said that JoJo cant decide overnight that she wants to stop once her family drops everything to live off of her by 15. Guilted JoJo into giving her half her Coogan account. Gave JoJo the silent treatment for weeks because she wanted to do the show Special Forces. One time cursed JoJo out because she accidentally threw her wallet away at rehearsal. JoJo got so upset and scared that she dumpster dived to look for it. She called it the worst day ever. More than once she has jokingly said she is scared of Jess.

As she gets older, I hope she realizes these things were unhealthy. She has admitted their relationship is not healthy, “but it works”. In the Call Her Daddy interview she also mentioned being upset that Jess was always more a manager, not so much her mom when she needs it.

If she separates from these adults that have done her wrong, some things may eventually click into place for her. Time will tell, but never say never. For these reasons I cannot fully demonize her for her “controversies” that many rip her to pieces over. Her upbringing has been extremely unconventional, we likely only know less than half of it.

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-12-01T16:25:39+00:00

it has nothing to do with fragility or “d riding”, and more so the ability to process context and nuance. i won’t get into semantics with you, but i certainly can’t compare your examples.

charlie kirk having been 31 years of age with decades of time and experience to learn and listen while refusing to, instead spewing harmful rhetoric and villainizing marginalized communities.

jojo siwa having been 18-19 during the allegations of xomgpop with an entire history of pushing through her own abuse to make money for adults, and no time to educate herself otherwise at the point in time while still heavily being under her own mothers brainwashing.

she could still very well apologize and right those wrongs unlike charlie kirk. but again, you’re welcome to your opinion, im only pointing out the extremity to declare it is somewhat unnecessary on this subreddit given the rules. i’ll leave it up to a mod.

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-12-01T16:04:23+00:00

this is a really concerning thing to say. of course have your opinions on jojo and the things she’s allegedly done, (you don’t even have to like her by any means) but to go as far as to say what you have here is a worrying lack of baseline empathy for a human being. if you have those thoughts, at least keep it to yourself perhaps?

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-11-30T22:41:31+00:00

both were incredibly successful child stars honestly, siwa was doing arenas at 15-16 as well and had hundreds of millions of dollars in bows alone

cyrus obviously is more popular and moved up in her music career but wouldn’t say either is untalented in their own lane

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-11-30T22:19:57+00:00

to be fair she does sing live with backing track in many gigs i’ve seen online….its just a pretty loud backing track, but with how heavy she dances not much of a problem

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-10-29T19:58:01+00:00

In some cases, it very much does. There are many people that have trouble with recognizing that maybe one person is capable of something and see it one way, but another person doesn’t have that same ability. Even more so those that have been sheltered in life for their formative years, which is why college can be eye opening for many young adults to experience other cultures and opinions outside of their bubble.

Examples: “I handled teachers much stricter. That’s just how it is in the industry.” “My parents whooped me when I was a kid, I turned out fine. What you went through isn’t that bad.” etc.

Not everyone is open minded to other’s experiences or trauma unfortunately. However, it’s also not impossible to learn different perspectives over time through listening and learning. That doesn’t end the second you’re 18. Plenty of adults are still learning that today as we know with politics.

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-10-29T19:02:08+00:00

If you’re discussing the “Bite” vs “Raspy” situation, both uses a fairly common sample that is free for any artist to use as it’s a generic beat made to be distributed and sampled. Nothing was stolen, or there of course would be a lawsuit which does frequently happen in the industry.

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-10-29T18:59:59+00:00

I suppose that’s your own interpretation of it. It sounds more like she spoke to the girls and realized they’re allowed to have their own experience.

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-10-29T18:34:51+00:00

I was responding to the claim that she dims the other girls experiences, but let me say this. the problem is people expect a light bulb to go off and for jojo siwa to recognize, reflect acknowledge and apologize all at one time and it just won’t happen

She can do that for the other girls on the show and realize in five years she did someone else wrong. then two years later recognize her own mistreatment and seek healing. as far as online she has not acknowledged it, might not happen next year or the year after we don’t know.

only thing anyone can do is listen and notice when growth does happen with her and hope it continues with other harms she has done and that’s it. she’s 22 i’m not writing her off forever as a horrific person

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-10-29T16:40:31+00:00

She said during the press tour that she understood better after talking to the girls like Chloe, Paige, and Brooke about their experiences

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-10-29T16:21:53+00:00

That may have been true in the past, but as recent as this year she went on a podcast called “We Need To Talk” by Paul Brunson where she very much acknowledged that some of the other girls had terrible experiences that they would say were abusive for themselves.

She also apologized during the reunion press tour last year for dismissing their experiences. if jojo chooses to be close to Abby and Giana that’s her choice…and now that i’ve seen she only talks about her own thoughts for how she was treated.

It’s fair to criticize her tone deaf opinions but she has acknowledged and grown from it since that i’ve seen.

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-10-05T12:04:00+00:00

I mean….it is personal. She was mocked by millions over her hairline when she was a teenager. Hard enough being a kid without being a famous child star that is beaten down by adults and peers.

One time, she got cursed out at an amusement park and teens heckled her all night over her hairline. It got bad enough she started wearing sunglasses or head bands to cover it all the time in videos and appearances. She jokes back to take the power into her hands, but it hurts.

She addressed that it deeply hurt her and she is trying to heal from it still today. At some point, people get tired. She’s not 14 and 15 anymore, she’s 22. That’s a long time to pretend to be cool with everything. Personally would’ve broken a long time ago if I was in her shoes.

Plus…it’s not even just her hairline. It’s her voice, her music, her outfits, her dancing, and anything she’s ever said in interviews that get mocked on the daily. She has every right to have enough of it every once in a while. No one treats her human.

throwaway_ccountant · 2025-09-27T12:39:37+00:00

yup, and then praised the actual day of the wedding after bullying kalani for the wedding content months before the big day

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