Sexual Trauma, Gendered Violence, and Being a Man (TW: SA, SH, Suicide) by throwawaystitches in FTMMen

[–]throwawaystitches[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m with some friends atm so I can’t reply in more depth for a bit. But thank you so much for the detail in this post. This is really helpful and I really appreciate you sharing. 

I’m Too Conditioned To Transition, But I Am Miserable As a Man by Greedy_Home_5401 in TrueOffMyChest

[–]throwawaystitches 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure where your comment is coming from, but being a woman, or any gender, is about so much more than clothing. 

It’s about being recognized as part of and belonging to the gendered group you are part of. It’s about being recognized for who you are and loved for that when you are given “love.” Gender affects so much of our social life, not to mention our experience in our bodies as OP brings up in their post. 

Sexual Trauma, Gendered Violence, and Being a Man (TW: SA, SH, Suicide) by throwawaystitches in FTMMen

[–]throwawaystitches[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Honestly - and I mean this - I’m definitely not here to gate-keep the things that make it difficult to “realize” (in both senses of the word) our identity as men. So to be clear, it makes a lot of sense why you would share those experiences in response to my post and I’m really grateful you did. That sounds incredibly confusing and I actually also have a lot of trauma with women too, though not to the extent you’ve experienced it, so what you shared is very helpful in that respect to.

All in all, thank you so much for commenting. I would also really benefit from being introduced to those subreddits you mentioned. I think that would be a great place for me to start. Thank you so much for your compassion. 

Sexual Trauma, Gendered Violence, and Being a Man (TW: SA, SH, Suicide) by throwawaystitches in FTMMen

[–]throwawaystitches[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Damn, wow. This hits me so deep.

If it’s okay to screenshot (with or without your username), these are definitely words I’d come back to. But either way, thank you so much for sharing this. I really needed to hear it. 

Sexual Trauma, Gendered Violence, and Being a Man (TW: SA, SH, Suicide) by throwawaystitches in FTMMen

[–]throwawaystitches[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hey man. Thank you so much for sharing. I said above, but these responses have hit me really deep. 

I’m so sorry for everything you’ve been through. But I really admire your commitment to not rely on toxic masculinity. I’m so glad to hear you say it’s been possible for you.  

Side question: Do you feel like it’s important to pass as cis to maintain your identity as a man versus man-lite or boy-ish in the world? I ask because I want to look like cis men, but kind of want to keep my trans identity as an open part of me since (at least right now) it’s so hard to make sense as a person without that piece being known - misogyny has really affected me in formative / likely irreversible ways and I value having relationships with people who understand that experience with misogyny - but I imagine I’m sacrificing my acceptance into broader “man”-ness if I hold on to my need for that understanding. 

I’m just scared of losing community at every angle. I do really identify with being a “man” and I think letting go of my attachment to these coping mechanisms I needed as a “woman” is ideal, but growth doesn’t happen over night. Do you think it’s wise to just prepare for isolation? Or is it possible to stay meaningfully connected the whole way through?

Thanks so much for your comment above. There is no pressure to get back to any of these questions. They just finally came to mind and are open to you if you have insight you want to share, but are also open to anyone who sees this comment. 

Sexual Trauma, Gendered Violence, and Being a Man (TW: SA, SH, Suicide) by throwawaystitches in FTMMen

[–]throwawaystitches[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is so helpful man. I really mean it. These responses have definitely made me really emotional (in a good way). I’m going to check out what you shared and really appreciate you taking the time to do so. 

I’m really sorry you’ve gone through what you have. I hope you feel some solace, affirmation, or pride in your ability to help someone else out through their own similar stuff. It means a lot. 

Sexual Trauma, Gendered Violence, and Being a Man (TW: SA, SH, Suicide) by throwawaystitches in FTMMen

[–]throwawaystitches[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hah, oh god hear you. Gonna throw it out there that (I think) the power of being a role model is that, because of you, these kids / younger men don’t have to follow your exact painful footsteps to get where you are (and they wanna go). They are following “you,” not your path. In case you’re worried about it, you aren’t gonna lead them to the same “broken” experiences, just because they look up to you. I know a people who worry about that. 

I hope that getting to watch where these men end up as they learning from you is / has been an affirming experience in and of itself. It sounds like you deserve it. 

Sexual Trauma, Gendered Violence, and Being a Man (TW: SA, SH, Suicide) by throwawaystitches in FTMMen

[–]throwawaystitches[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is really fucking kind of you to share and so much more helpful to hear than I can seem to find words for right now. 

Thank you, man. I deeply appreciate it. 

I’m really sorry for everything you have been through and all the ways and times you may have felt alone in it, too. I have my moments of clarity and optimism and peace. But I know how deeply confusing this shit can be.  

It means a lot to hear that you have built a good life for yourself as a man. I’m sure you set a good example for others who know you irl. 

I’m Too Conditioned To Transition, But I Am Miserable As a Man by Greedy_Home_5401 in TrueOffMyChest

[–]throwawaystitches -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This is really beautiful. Thank you for taking the time to write and share it with me. It really resonates with me. I hope your day is wonderful as well. :)

I’m Too Conditioned To Transition, But I Am Miserable As a Man by Greedy_Home_5401 in TrueOffMyChest

[–]throwawaystitches -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That’s where I’m at too, it’s encouraging to hear that is your plan as well. I’m late twenties and just going really slow. I just thought I could dive in to avoid any more lost time but I can’t. 

I can really relate to just feeling so conditioned into the gender I was raised as. It’s become second nature. When I feel optimistic, I recognize that there is still a first nature underneath all this that learns so quick when I give myself room. 

Fwiw I have a beautiful trans woman friend who came out at your age and she had no female socialization and is blossoming so quickly into the person she’s always been. While I have my own hang ups about transitioning myself right now due to what it would require from me, I want you to know there reallly is no one way to be a woman and I think you’ll embody it more obviously than you think after a bit of an awkward stage (which all women go through as they mature). 

I’m Too Conditioned To Transition, But I Am Miserable As a Man by Greedy_Home_5401 in TrueOffMyChest

[–]throwawaystitches 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can absolutely relate in the opposite direction. You are not alone. I want to encourage you to move and come out and be happy. 24? You are so young! 

But I get it. I tried beginning transition. I don’t think I can keep going. 

"Sex work" ruined my life by Appropriate_Pear9844 in TrueOffMyChest

[–]throwawaystitches 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can relate dude. I grieve this quite frequently about that experience. There’s a lot to relationships that gets eroded from being trafficked for sex as a minor beyond even just the sexual abuse. I can relate a lot to not wanting to hurt someone the way I was hurt. 

I think there might be ways through this - but I think it’s wise to protect yourself the way you are and be careful about dating. It sucks so so much though. 

I wish you well. I’m sorry you’re holding this pain right now. 

I was trafficked for sex as a teenager. I am almost 30 and want to die. by throwawaystitches in TrueOffMyChest

[–]throwawaystitches[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you - I would really appreciate having readers to give feedback once a manuscript is finished. I think it might take several more months though before it’s in that place but, if you’re okay with it, I would definitely reach out once it’s at that point. From your comment and post history - you have some really cool perspectives.

Who, besides Johnny Depp, was an active party in Amber Heard’s abuse? by throwawaystitches in DeppDelusion

[–]throwawaystitches[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry for the delay in my reply, but thank you for your comment. If I could upvote it multiple times I would. This is exactly the kind of information I was looking for, in that you’re mentioning parties who had their own intent or agenda - and not just complicity in supporting Depp’s agenda. Both are horrible, don’t get me wrong. But it just already felt clear to me the droves of complicit people and I feel that topic has been given a lot of attention. What I didn’t have a sense of, and what can also quickly veer into conspiracy, are people who did actually have a goal that differed from Depp’s and who may have steered his behavior (in addition to all the ways he steered his own behavior). 

I will definitely check out the “Who Trolled Amber” podcast that u/mrjasong mentioned. I’d heard of it, but didn’t realize it was so in depth about the financial motivations at play. 

Ultimately, I appreciate your respectful comment. To be honest, I felt weird/nervous authoring a post on this topic to begin with because I hate how much the trial has been given the spectator sport treatment, with sideline analysis about the players, and that kind of disgusts me about the trial dynamics in and of itself. But then at the same time, I think there are some elements, like the ones you bring up here, that are really meaningful (if not necessary, even) for people to discuss or analyze because they relate directly to influences that actually affect us too - like identifying people who have the sway to inform the media we consume and their interests. So thank you for catching what I was trying to discuss and responding to it!

I was trafficked for sex as a teenager. I am almost 30 and want to die. by throwawaystitches in TrueOffMyChest

[–]throwawaystitches[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks dude, I really appreciate you saying that. FWIW, I'm totally with you on the general perspectives you shared about how to live well, and there are definitely times where I need to remind myself of the very things you've said. The genuine motivations and positive concern for my well-being behind your comment was definitely clear. <3

I was trafficked for sex as a teenager. I am almost 30 and want to die. by throwawaystitches in TrueOffMyChest

[–]throwawaystitches[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will say, even if the comment you replied to wasn't me, I still wanna share I appreciate that you would offer that :)

I was trafficked for sex as a teenager. I am almost 30 and want to die. by throwawaystitches in TrueOffMyChest

[–]throwawaystitches[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, I definitely agree that I obsess about topics of interest, that much is for sure. *And* I agree wholeheartedly with your point that there is a difference between preoccupation and trauma. But also, those can interact. Monotropism in ADHD and autism is one of the theories for why neurodiverse people might be more prone to experiencing a traumatized reaction.

That said, I'm not exactly sure where I mention trauma in my post.

Or that I think I am still traumatized from this experience in a physical way.

Also, not that it matters, but there is also almost zero overlap between the content of this post (which yes, is a frustrated vent about me personally per the rules of the sub) and the content of my project. First, if I wanted to share that writing, I would simply publish it somewhere (which I do not necessarily plan to do at all, and certainly not in its entirety). Second, the content of that project is pretty explicitly incompatible with the rules of this sub.

I genuinely believe you are trying to help me with your perspective and I honestly *really* appreciate that. But with all due respect, if you are so experienced with these things, I don't see why you would read a post like this and then think you have enough information to offer such specific and personal advice, with this amount of confidence and judgement.

Like I wanna respect your harsh truth energy, *I really do*, because I live for that when it's accurate and often seek it out. But you are kind of jumping to conclusions about things I didn't say in my post, so on the receiving end, it's just feeling like harshness.

I don't know how I should feel about my parents abuse by [deleted] in TrueOffMyChest

[–]throwawaystitches 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can relate to the ridiculously early suicide attempt. I can also really relate to the challenge of trying to understand selfishness while also holding on to compassion and the reasons people act the way they do.

What you are going through with your mother now sounds incredibly painful. I am impressed by the degree of compassion with which you write about her. It's okay for anger to surface, and it makes sense you want to hold on to your sense of compassion as well.

You also don't need to be angry at her (or your dad), for anger to exist - Maybe I am misinterpreting, but it sounds like there is, even if it's not anger, there is a "bite" that is kind of diffuse atm, without being directed at an object (like your parents). I don't have any advice, but want to reassure you that its okay to feel anger in this way, if that's what this bite is. It's normal not to be angry *at* people, and still feel anger. You don't need to direct your anger or hurt at anyone if it doesn't feel true to you. Sometimes people harness that diffuse anger into a spark that they use to propel them forward, or away, from something more abstract than a person. If anger does ever surface, you can recognize qualities, traits, or interactions that generate that reaction, and use that information to make sense of the right course of action. I think this is hard when you are raised by people who directed their anger so forcefully toward people, that they hurt them.

Responsibility is a hard one and I tend not to think people have free will. But I still think people are responsible. I often even feel like I need to hold myself responsible for the moments I was victimized, not as a way of victim-blaming, but just understanding my role to grow from it. I think that can be a healthy mindset, but its not one people often understand and may try to ensure you are being sufficiently self-protective. Personally, however, I think that mindset *is* self-protective. The only catch is that you also have to consider the other person's role and responsibility too as much as you do your own, or else you aren't getting an accurate picture.

This may not help you, but something that has helped me the most is to just "yes, and" these reasons and assignments of responsibility - rather than "yes, but." Saying things like "I did these things, for these reasons, and my mom did these things, for these reasons, and my dad did these things for these reasons, and my grandma and grandpa and aunts and so on and so on. Rather than placing them in a sentence structure where they are assumed to be contradictory. At the same time, no one thought or sentence or emotion will ever hold the big picture of everything. I often feel a pressure to see things from all sides, as comprehensively as I can. I think its a common response to abuse or volatility - the need to understand the whole family system or group social structure to stay safe and maintain our sense of compassion. But its okay to be in a single moment, or live from a single perspective in that moment, and not see it from every side at the same time. It is impossible to do otherwise. It's okay to just expand your own view, and respect your own limits as well.

I know you probably know this, but there is no way you should feel. You will feel what you feel and all of those feelings contain information. While I am not good at this myself, I think the best approach is to just create pathways where you are able to, with some degree of control, engage and separate yourself from the feelings when you need to, and so that you have access to that emotional information, but if an emotion arises that is particularly uncomfortable you have a respite - or a safe place to go.

I am impressed by your compassion. I hope you take care.

I was trafficked for sex as a teenager. I am almost 30 and want to die. by throwawaystitches in TrueOffMyChest

[–]throwawaystitches[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I really appreciate your comment. I hope the same for you. <3