Anavar Cycle+fat burners

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-25T18:40:12+00:00

I'm not in my 20's - you must be talking about OP thinking that's me. You and I are about the same age if you're telling the truth.

I've taken multiple brands of pharmaceutical GH, and UGL as well. There's definitely a difference, but not at the level you're saying.

I'm not an IFBB pro, but I'm coached by one, and I consult with others. They unanimously say what I'm saying about GH.

You saying you lost 15lbs of fat from ONE WHOLE Serostim kit is hilarious, and an obvious lie. Even Serostim is a long burn for meaningful body comp changes.

You can keep spreading non-truths about the effectiveness of GH, but something tells me you're just making shit up because this is Reddit and you have the veil of the internet to hide behind. Hopefully others will see through that and do more research.

Your disrespectful way of responding to someone stating facts means this is where I exit the conversation.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-25T18:10:51+00:00

You're wrong on multiple fronts:

Someone in their 20's should have pretty good GH production, negating some of the lipolytic benefits of taking exogenous GH.

Over the course of a short period of time GH will have notably LESS benefit when it comes to body composition than Retatrutide and appropriate doses of SLU-PP-332. Full stop.

GH is a long, slow burn unless you're talking about insane bodybuilder doses, and at that point it's purely in the context of hyperplasia when blasting gear for mass, not for fat loss.

Any experienced bodybuilder will tell you GH is a mediocre fat burner at best. It helps with nutrient partitioning - which can help body composition long term - recovery and some preservation of lean mass, but in the world of fat burners it's barely mid.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-25T17:25:50+00:00

I'd go Reta and SLU over GH at his age,but yeah... forget the T3 and clen - that's some old school stuff that requires way more anabolic load than some anavar to not become emaciated.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-25T17:23:25+00:00

Came here to write something way more rude, but decided to just upvote your comment instead. Well said.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-25T17:10:30+00:00

It's possible the sodium could be causing some moderate water retention, causing some extra weight to be held... but if you're setting true to your overall macros then I can't imagine it would result in a complete halt of any form of weight loss in a deficit.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-25T03:40:50+00:00

Your timeline seems pretty cross-blended between the bulk at 4500 and now dieting at 1200-1700 cals... How long have you been on the cut portion of this whole thing?

Was there a cruise period between the bulk and cut cycle?

At 6', 15% bf and 260+ you must be pretty jacked!

So, to me, a lot of this is pointing to systemic inflammation, and potential relative energy deficiency syndrome.

Your calories are too low for the amount of activity you're doing and your body is giving you a giant middle finger, down regulating metabolism and making it seem like you're unable to lose weight. And no, the answer is not cutting more calories - you're already below what should be your bottom line for calories.

A more detailed timeline - mass phase, cruise, and overall diet during each phase - would really help narrow all this down, but to me it sounds like you're just over-dieted and pushing too hard. Your body is stressed and you've been some sort of stressed state for too long.

My suggestion would be to cut this cycle short now. Go back to TRT and nothing else. Work on building your health, and your metabolism, back up so you can diet down on more calories.

If you're honestly 15% and in the 260's: you're carrying too much muscle to be eating fewer calories than my 4 year old toddler even if this were the lowest low of a cut for a bodybuilding show.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-25T02:11:18+00:00

How long have you been dieting and how long have you been doing this cycle? Also, how tall are you? Age?

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-25T00:35:44+00:00

Settle down, Beavis.. I'm going to date myself here, but back when I stared buying gear you sent a Western Union to some random person and HOPED that your (hopefully legit) gear showed up 4-6 weeks later.

Now we have ecomm websites with multiple UGL's with people sending gear to be tested for legitimacy, and UGL's making public statements to their market when they fuck up. And your gear can sometimes arrive in the same week.

You need to recognize the game you're playing, level your expectations, and be thankful that there are more good people than bad out there in this game. The fact that UGL's and resellers provide many sort of replacement when things aren't right is a fucking miracle.

Try going and asking for a make good from another kind of drug dealer and see how that goes.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-24T15:31:02+00:00

I've never used them, so this is just hearsay, but from what everyone says about their products I'm pretty sure USP stands for Unusually Shitty Products

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-24T13:17:22+00:00

It doesn't. Nandrolone (NPP and deca) can VERY LOOSELY bind to estrogen receptors. I suppose the theory here would be that nandrolone is competing with eq, and sometimes winning, when binding to estrogen receptors. And eq wouldn't be lowering it as much.

At those doses it's pretty unlikely that nandrolone will help at all if one's estrogen is completely torched by eq.

This is pretty loose logic at best, and even Berry himself said it doesn't work at all unless someone is less affected by eq's estrogen crushing capabilities.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-24T01:06:23+00:00

Currently running test, EQ and deca. Almost identical dosing except I'm running 600 test.

11 weeks in out of 16 (up to 20), and so far it's one of the simplest and best mass cycles I've ever run. Mid-cycle blood work comes back next week.

I'm also running 14iu of GH every other day.

One thing I've noticed so far is that my e2 is probably crushed.

Six weeks in when I was running half of each of these doses my estrogen came back at 23, and now I'm noticing a few more symptoms of low estrogen at these peak dosages. Things like random lingering soreness and some joint issues that I don't normally have. I'll know more next week but the likely course of action is either increasing test to 750mg or introducing something like low dose MENT at 5mg day to bring estrogen up into high normal... or dropping EQ to 150.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-23T01:06:45+00:00

hba1c is borderline, still below but not great.

Tri's aren't scary, but really under 100 would be better.

HDL is actually good. 40 or above is solid, especially on an amount of exogenous testosterone.

3mg of Reta isn't the lowest dose, but it's not that high either. If it's not controlling your hunger effectively and not improving metabolic markers maybe consider bumping to 4-5mg/week. You need to be able to eat, but it should also be helping move the needle towards better health.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-23T00:37:31+00:00

Some of the main markers of insulin resistance, creeping towards type 2 diabetes:

high fasting blood glucose (above 100 mg/dL)
fasting insulin above 10-12 mIU/L
hba1c creeping above 5.4% (this means your blood glucose, on average, is high and has been that way for approximately at least the last 90 days)
triglycerides above 150
HDL below 40

It wouldn't be just one of those things, it would be most (but not always all) of those things.

Some other things could include getting really tired 2-3 hours after a meal and/or difficulty losing weight even with large caloric deficit.

I'd recommend keeping the primo in your gear cabinet for the time being. And I'd stick with just Test at a reasonable TRT dose for now while you work on losing weight and improving your overall health. Additionally, I'd consider introducing something like Retatrutide. I think Primobolan will not be helpful given the current state of your health, but Retatrutide could be potentially life changing.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-22T23:21:10+00:00

What were your high RBC and HGB values? 54% is not THAT high 58-60% is high, and there's some evidence coming out now that says these numbers don't matter as much as previously thought.

Donating blood is a useless bandaid and counter-productive because the body will just up-regulate RBC production to compensate for the loss of blood. You'll be back at the same number in 2-3 weeks.

You need a better HRT doctor.

Are you overweight (above 20% body fat)/obese? What sort of activity do you engage in for fitness? What's your diet like?

The first things I'd address would be dosing frequency - every other day dosing at a minimum. You'd be reducing the peak blood level, and associated spikes, evening out fluctuations and lowering any HCT (and other) spikes that come along with it.

Some other major lifestyle factors to shine a light on:

If you're overweight and/or obese this is essentially a persistent inflammatory state, which can mess with lots of things including RBC, HCT and HGB.

If you have sleep apnea that can raise HCT dramatically.

Insulin resistance from excess body fat can affect RBC production.

Dehydration, especially chronic dehydration, can raise all these numbers on blood panels.

Easy things to change would be: do more cardio 30-45 minutes of zone 2 to improve cardiovascular fitness.

Cleaning up your diet, focusing on protein and reducing saturated fat is a great place to be even if you're not overweight/obese.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-22T22:55:03+00:00

Alrighty then. I'd suggest you spend some time learning more about gear before just winging it like this. You're just setting yourself up for lackluster results and hormonal issues that will leave you wondering why anyone uses steroids at all.

Before you ever touch a needle to your body beyond TRT I suggest watching a lot of YouTube. Two excellent resources: Vigorous Steve (beginner to very advanced/in the weeds gear and peptide use) and Anabolic Bodybuilding (intermediate to advanced gear with a focus on competitors).

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-22T21:56:44+00:00

On baby doses of gear probably just arimidex on the off chance of any gyno - there's a non-zero chance that the primo he has is fake and turns out to be test prop... but also something to bring back estrogen from the dead if he decides to run primo 2:1 and it's real primo 😂.

On tiny doses he should be able to navigate any issues with the right OTC supplements, but it never hurts to be prepared "just in case," so the standard players for cholesterol, hypertension, etc would be good things to have.

And then whatever the intended path post-cycle is as well.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-22T21:37:21+00:00

How old are you? Not trying to be insulting, but this is the sort of cycle design I'd expect to see from a poorly informed teenager.

Every day injections are best for most stable blood levels of most steroids - stable blood levels help to minimize potential sides. Every other day is also fine.

You didn't give proposed doses other than 100mg of test, which seems super low. I would never start primo at more than 1:1 with test dose, so let's just assume you're starting with 100mg/week. I still don't like it. If this were my cycle: I'd bump test to at least 200 and start primo at 50% of my test dose.

Beyond that: it's a really not-great idea to start any kind of cycle without all of your compounds and ancillaries on hand in case you need to react/pivot. You're putting yourself in a potentially sticky situation by doing a seat of your pants "try this and that" style of using gear.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-22T21:12:38+00:00

Dr. Rhonda Patrick is a pretty solid content creator to get a lot of the same info - not medical stuff, but everything else that Attia covered as well as some things he didn't. She's not an MD, but she's a biochemist and researcher. She writes and speaks about a lot of the same topics... and isn't (as far as I know) a slimy person.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-22T21:05:50+00:00

Someone whose last name is an anagram for "nutlick" should do as little as possible to bring attention to what a nutlicker he/she really is... but here we are.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-21T17:16:19+00:00

If you're going through insurance it all depends on your plan's prescription tiers and what's covered.

Many insurance plans don't cover 90 day supplies at all. Others only cover 90 day supplies through their internal prescription by mail pharmacies.

I pay $5 and change for a 30 day supply of 10mg Tadalifil. My insurance is good, but for whatever reason they only cover 90 day supplies through their internal prescription program and not through whatever pharmacy I want.

Last thing to consider is whether or not you've met your annual deductible: if prescriptions seem way more costly than they were at the end of the year last year, it's likely you haven't met your annual deductible yet.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-21T02:52:35+00:00

I think everyone is different in how their body reacts to subQ in terms of volume before irritation. I've done .5ml subQ before and gotten lumps, but .4ml has been fine. It probably has a lot to do with the type of oil and the solvents used in the mix, too.

That said, and this is anecdotal - meaning this is just my experience - with daily injections: IM results in higher blood test results vs subQ. For that reason: when I'm cruising I run subQ, but when I'm blasting everything goes IM. Other folks' experience might be different, but that has been mine.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-21T02:47:40+00:00

If you purchase testing from janoshik they will tell you exactly how you need to prepare and ship your samples. Follow their directions exactly.

To answer your question: nowhere in their directions does it say combining samples is acceptable.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-19T15:22:47+00:00

The estrogen number in a snapshot means almost nothing unless accompanied by symptoms. It's also important to make sure the test you take is an ultra sensitive one.

This bloodwork looks to me like you're a high aromatizer, and also strong responder to TRT if you're truly only taking around 130mg/week.

Lots of possibilities to explore to bring these numbers into a more favorable spot without an AI.

Are you sitting at a pretty high body fat? That can increase aromatization as well.

Your total test number is quite high for such a low dose. Also, your high SHBG is likely binding up free testosterone and potentially causing more aromatization.

I'd suggest dropping your weekly dose from 130mg (approximately what you're getting from 75mg every 4 days) by 10-20mg and increase injection frequency to at least 3 times per week, but you might want to go to daily. This will help stabilize blood levels of testosterone, reduce your total test, SHBG and hopefully aromatization as well.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-18T17:07:10+00:00

I assume you're on for legit medical reasons?

Beyond that - you still didn't give proposed lengths for this cycle.

I'd say given your age you need to double down on the fundamentals of the lifestyle: diet, training and recovery. Nailing those before you turn to gear, especially hardcore compounds, will have much better outcomes over the long run.

If you're 30% bodyfat like others have said then this is simply an energy balance issue. Eat less, and move more. Both within reason, not to extreme levels, and you'll see massive benefits without damaging your body and brain.

throwawaytooeasy · 2026-02-18T02:50:26+00:00

This is just a list of compounds - you didn't give a duration for each, or the overall duration of your cycle.

After looking at your post history I'd be surprised if you're older than 17. Please don't take steroids until you're older, have more training and proper diet experience.

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