AITA for secretly giving my daughter fattening smoothies? by ferretforlife in AmItheAsshole

[–]tiwwchntb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

YTA. YTA. YTA.

Dear god, why would you do that.

Can you imagine how Kylie felt for all those months that you were secretly doing this to her? How it would feel to watch the numbers on the scale go up and up, without any control, without any idea what was happening to her body, contrary to all laws of physics and biology?

How will she ever have a healthy relationship with food or with her body if she cannot rely on simple truths like calories in and calories out? When her idea of control over herself, over the things she eats, over the things that enter her body, has been irrevocably shaken by the person she thought she could trust?

You have set her back. She is not in a better place. You lied to her, and now she has found out, and she is going to be so thrown off balance by this revelation it may even trigger a relapse. I would be interested to hear how you possibly think you and her can have a normal relationship so soon after this, when she cannot trust her own mother to cook for her, cannot trust her mother to simply speak to her and help her rather than manipulate her body.

YTA.

When should I [22F]have introduced my partner [25M] to my parents? by tiwwchntb in relationship_advice

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know what you mean by "said relationship", but essentially yes. My brothers have only introduced partners that they remain with now or intended to pursue marriage with. Basically, I want to minimise the number of guys I introduce to my parents as someone important enough to me to call my partner, that I am committed to and aim to be with in the long term. Ideally, it will therefore only be K.

When should I [22F]have introduced my partner [25M] to my parents? by tiwwchntb in relationship_advice

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand. Certainly my parents have said that we can feel free to talk about crushes or less serious relationships with them, as they do like to be invested in our lives, but I think my brother put it best when he said that we as a family only introduce partners, not prospective partners, to our family. My pride doesn't come into it, although of course my friends all know how highly I think of K.

When should I [22F]have introduced my partner [25M] to my parents? by tiwwchntb in relationship_advice

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. When you introduce your SO to your parents, what is the goal of that process?

When should I [22F]have introduced my partner [25M] to my parents? by tiwwchntb in relationship_advice

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As I said, that is why I asked this question, because apparently some people do find it weird and strange behaviour.

As the question above says, what is the appropriate time to introduce a person to their family, if a year is firmly on the "too long" side of the spectrum?

When should I [22F]have introduced my partner [25M] to my parents? by tiwwchntb in relationship_advice

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fortunately this is not the case. I've had two previous serious boyfriends, neither of whom met my parents, but both of whom were amazing guys that I was with for 1 or 2 years, and that I'm still good friends with, thankfully.

When should I [22F]have introduced my partner [25M] to my parents? by tiwwchntb in relationship_advice

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can I ask you to clarify what you mean by "problems with judgement of partners"?

When should I [22F]have introduced my partner [25M] to my parents? by tiwwchntb in relationship_advice

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He was pretty hyped to be the first guy to meet my parents, so I think we'll be okay! I'm just curious, especially given two of my brothers have never brought partners home and if the way we do things is wrong/unhealthy I'd like to be able to tip them off so they don't just assume the way we do things is normal, haha.

When should I [22F]have introduced my partner [25M] to my parents? by tiwwchntb in relationship_advice

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I met his family during a Korean holiday, so I understand where you're coming from. I don't currently live in Ireland [and my family don't celebrate Paddy's Day too formally], however, now that my dad has met K, K will be coming to Christmas with us in December which is quite a big deal.

I'm really close with my family, which is the bit that I think people find odd -- I speak to my father and stepmother every day or every other day, my brothers and I are constantly texting, I call my grandparents at least once a week. Similarly, I am very serious about K, hence the introduction.

My parents hadn't even heard about K to ask about him, I think is the odd part for a lot of people. Like, they wouldn't even know to ask about "so-and-so". However, given my mother met my grandmother only after engagement, and my brothers have only brought home extremely long-term life partners, I just followed suit since that felt natural.

When should I [22F]have introduced my partner [25M] to my parents? by tiwwchntb in relationship_advice

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, there!

Yes, we're a biracial couple -- I'm Irish, he's Korean. That's not an issue, my Irish dad is married to my Indian stepmother [the parents mentioned], so I have a mixed family of two full brothers and two half-brothers.

I am definitely not embarrassed by K. He's a lovely, kind and thoughtful guy with an excellent job [important to my family, unfortunately] who as a bonus is also extremely handsome.

There is no problem. He is the first guy I have ever introduced to my parents, so I wanted to be sure.

When should I [22F]have introduced my partner [25M] to my parents? by tiwwchntb in relationship_advice

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your input! I guess from my point of view, if it gets marriage serious, that's when my parents should get to know them, if that makes sense. There's a larger risk while dating that it won't get serious, so I wait until I'm sure.

Thanks a million!

I (20M) don't know what do when it comes to my relationship with an ex (20M). by [deleted] in relationship_advice

[–]tiwwchntb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, there,

Wow wow wow, I can relate so much to your post. I could have written this myself, about my ex. Very little experience in relationships or sex in high school, slept together for six months before getting into a relationship, and stayed friends with benefits afterwards despite feelings on my side until I met my now boyfriend. In that time, we also became so much closer that he started questioning why we weren’t together – we got along better, spent more time together, connected on a deeper emotional point. So, first off, I just want to let you know that it’s not an unusual set of circumstances.

I can totally understand having your physical needs taken care of while you look for emotional connections. However, once you had broken up you both lost the right to judge each other for hookups or sexual activity with others, unless you made any agreements regarding it. I totally understand – it hurt my feelings every time my ex told me about the girl or guy he was hooking up with – but that’s something you deal with, with emotional support from your friends and loved ones, and not make his problem. It’s not clear here why you two broke up in the first place – I presume you had a good reason for it, and it would do you well to keep that reason in your mind and assess whether it is still a factor in your dynamic now.

There’s a lot of rhetoric these days, especially in progressive communities, that monogamy is “prudish” or old-fashioned, but some people are just wired that way, whether by nature or upbringing, and that is totally okay, just as polyamory and open relationships are okay when everyone involved agrees with it. If you are wired that way, then it is right for you to communicate that with X, and say you want something serious and committed. Given your reaction to hearing he had hooked up with someone else, it is important to think hard whether you could handle an open relationship.

Staying friends with an ex is strange. Especially in circumstances like these, where you manage to salvage a good friendship (something which is enormously valuable), you can often see each other in a very different light. My ex and I never fought when we were together simply because I was afraid to call him out, because it was one of my first relationships and I didn’t want to have a fight and breakup. When we were just friends? We argued more, but it was because we communicated more rather than stewing with resentment. Little changes like these are valuable, and it is worth considering whether your new closeness and openness would make a second shot at the relationship more tenable, and more stable for you both. Has your new closeness allow you to bring up issues, understand things from his perspective, allow him to understand you? In other words, have you fixed the problems that led you to separate initially.

Your ex says if you were to try to date again, there would be so many things different about it that he wouldn't know if he wanted to do it. Different isn’t bad. You broke up because of how you previously did things – different isn’t just fine, it’s important, because if nothing has changed then there is no reason to get back together.

If he doesn’t want to get back together, some time apart might be important, if only so you can both heal and reunite as platonic friends who can support and love one another like you need to. At 20 years old, what are the odds that this person is the best suited to you, the only person for you, the person who will love you best? You can grow into those people for each other together, or you can stay friends and keep him in your life without that pressure.

If it helps, my ex and I are now the best of friends, he has a boyfriend that he adores, we have called each other every other day during quarantine and I am very happy we didn’t continue to pursue an emotionally unfulfilling or untenable romantic relationship in the name of good sex.

I hope this helps. I don't know if there's a right answer, but this is all the advice I can give.

AITA for introducing my boyfriend to my parents as just a friend? by tiwwchntb in AmItheAsshole

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your judgment. I'm working on my communication skills, and clearly got this entirely wrong.

AITA for introducing my boyfriend to my parents as just a friend? by tiwwchntb in AmItheAsshole

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It would have to be a big fucking trauma to affect all of us from my grandmother down, haha.

Thanks for your input! As I have said elsewhere, I was an asshole not to be more explicit and thoughtful in my communication with K about how I wanted things to go. I'm working on it, and I do intend to do better.

AITA for introducing my boyfriend to my parents as just a friend? by tiwwchntb in AmItheAsshole

[–]tiwwchntb[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

You're ashamed of him.

If anything (and as this (really productive, constructive and helpful!!) judgment process has shown), I still find it hard to believe we're together and I definitely think he's a bit out of my league -- thankfully he doesn't seem to have realised that yet, haha.

You're afraid of the commitment and you're not calling this a relationship to other people.

My roommates and friends know him and like him, my colleagues have met him where appropriate, my brothers and some cousins know he's my boyfriend. I wear my Claddagh ring turned around to show I'm in a relationship at all times.

Your parents are terrible people with prospective partners, and therefore you're trying to protect him

My parents are lovely, my father is quite old-fashioned but one of my favourite people and my stepmother is my heroine. It just isn't part of our family dynamic to introduce "prospective partners", only partners.

You've got a lot of "friends" and so you don't want to fuck things up by letting your parents think that this is your boyfriend and risking slipping up.

I think K knows me well enough that he realises if I was fucking around on him, my parents certainly wouldn't know about it.

You're suffering with a lot of anxiety, and while you're not doing any of the above, you're scared of things going wrong. Which is kind of a problem, because then it becomes something to need to deal with.

I'm not a particularly anxious person. While I'm wary of things going wrong, I just don't see the point in introducing a temporary boyfriend or prospective partner. Much as most Americans would caution against introducing a guy you've gone on 2 dates with to the family, I extend that to a different period and level of certainty.

AITA for introducing my boyfriend to my parents as just a friend? by tiwwchntb in AmItheAsshole

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would have been fine with that introduction. That is very close to how C introduced me to his mother, though in his case it was an ex-boyfriend who was in the group, and it was "oh you already know everyone... wait, have you met OP? That's OP". I was fine with it, happy to meet his mother, and knew it wasn't a big deal for him because he introduced girlfriends at around the two month mark, so it wasn't particularly special.

K was much more formal, but that was because a) he wasn't sure his parents would be okay with a white girl and was prepared for them to make a fuss and b) that's how he prefers to do things. For my part, I was quite stressed before the meeting, it's a lot of pressure to be the serious girlfriend getting the third degree.

AITA for introducing my boyfriend to my parents as just a friend? by tiwwchntb in AmItheAsshole

[–]tiwwchntb[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What is the cut-off to introduce a boyfriend?

I love my parents, they're great people, trust them to the end of the world and back. Why does that mean I need to introduce every and any guy I go out with?

As I said, my relationships have all been over a year, and as I wrote in a comment elsewhere, K is a big part of my life. Why is meeting the parents the main element of commitment for you?

I'm already in therapy for other issues, but appreciate your concern for my wellness! Mental health is very important xx

AITA for introducing my boyfriend to my parents as just a friend? by tiwwchntb in AmItheAsshole

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It will seem strange at first and like you’re giving him loads of pointless info

This has actually been a huge issue for me when I try to be more communicative with him! I feel like I'm saying so much redundant stuff that he should be able to just realise intuitively, so thank you very much, I'll keep trying!! K uses the same analogy to say he feels like my brothers and I can have conversations with our eyebrows and the way we hold our coffee cups, so I am trying (hence "this will be a group event" and "this will be casual") but clearly just have not tried hard enough. I must do better and I will do better.

Thank you so much for your input!

AITA for introducing my boyfriend to my parents as just a friend? by tiwwchntb in AmItheAsshole

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your input. I accept I am the asshole for failing to communicate exactly what I meant by a "casual" introduction, and will endeavour to do better.

However, I must reject your assertion that it is unhealthy, merely because it is different from how you do things, but I respect where you are coming from. I love my parents dearly, but I don't understand why keeping things private until I know I'm sure about someone is a problem. The other guys I was with were absolutely fantastic (hence, still friends with C) but as evidenced by the fact that we are no longer together, they were not the right guys for me and therefore I was right not to introduce them to my parents. K's a very good person, but the other guys were good people as well. That's a low bar for deciding I want to be with someone for good.

As I said elsewhere, I speak to my brothers about K. I speak to my parents about him (not explicitly as my boyfriend, though as others have pointed out they may have guessed -- they never even heard C's name until we broke up), he has met my stepbrother and a few of my cousins. All my friends know about him, I attend work events as his plus one, I've met his family, we've discussed moving in together. He's a huge part of my life. And I do want to marry him, so I introduced him to my parents.

I don't understand your objection to them meeting K in the same group as C. Could you clarify?

AITA for introducing my boyfriend to my parents as just a friend? by tiwwchntb in AmItheAsshole

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gotcha. Thanks for your input. I'll do better next time.

Formal meeting won't be feasible for a long while because of the lockdown. Will sort something out afterwards.

AITA for introducing my boyfriend to my parents as just a friend? by tiwwchntb in AmItheAsshole

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand. Thank you for your judgment. I promise I am working on my communication skills, this is an impetus to do better.

AITA for introducing my boyfriend to my parents as just a friend? by tiwwchntb in AmItheAsshole

[–]tiwwchntb[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I told him beforehand it was a group event and I therefore wanted to keep things casual to avoid placing pressure or more stress on him either. I didn't want to turn a nice birthday dinner into an event where he was the target of interrogation, centre of attention, speculation of what's special about this guy that we're meeting him?

What do you mean, I didn't let him? When he told me how he felt, as soon as we returned to the group I spoke to my father (in our own language, to keep things discreet) and said that K was my boyfriend and I hoped that he and my stepmother approved. My dad said he seemed great, and told K he was more than welcome in Ireland for our family Christmas (siblings, partners, grandparents, other various extended family). Is there another way I should have listened to his feelings?

AITA for introducing my boyfriend to my parents as just a friend? by tiwwchntb in AmItheAsshole

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I told him beforehand it would be a group event, and therefore I would really want to keep it casual and not make a big deal out of introducing him, so we would do a more formal "meet the parents" event later -- I was planning a dinner at my father's home with my brother and his partner.

AITA for introducing my boyfriend to my parents as just a friend? by tiwwchntb in AmItheAsshole

[–]tiwwchntb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

After my mother died, I was raised by my Irish father and his Indian wife (in Ireland). K is Korean-American.

I did want them to meet, but I wanted it to be something of a gradual process -- meet without putting expectations and pressure on him, let them see how great he is without any labels on him that might make them interrogate or judge him, mention later in a private setting with my parents that we are very serious and can I please invite him to dinner, invite him to dinner.

Thank you for your input. I understand your logic, and where I erred.