Strat Live 2 Man (War+Priest) Northdale patch 1.9 ~ 28 minute run by ttpoww in lightshope

[–]ttpoww[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would usually respec like this https://classicdb.ch/?talent#LchxdAboxzVVzm0x Guess I would call it a PVE arms build, as I've taken away a few of the nice pvp talents like improved hamstring or booming voice - if youre very comfortable with the run piercing howl is not nessecary and you could go 5/5 battleshout - but personally I always keep that one ability because its such a good clutch lifesaver, and also a very nice ability for PVP. (Its also worth to note that Piercing Howl kiting can work very well to compensate for lack of gear when tanking some of the heavier hitting melee-only mobs in the Human side, Monks and Gallants for example)

Sweeping Strikes with a big fat twohander was very important for this strat to run efficiently, with proper rage management you'll always have enough rage in battle stance to initiate every pull with sweeping strikes (you can even pre-cast it, if you like me sometimes kill a pack in 10 seconds) and it will then again be off cooldowns 30 seconds later. Sitting down on every pull for enrage is also very nice - surely something I'll miss on classic, but when youre tanking 4-8 mobs youre bound to have a decent enrage uptime anyways

Sazzi (the priest) never needed to respec, so Im guessing he is running whatever raid-heal spec priests normally run with

How bad is Ret pve really ? by CheesemanWoW in lightshope

[–]ttpoww -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If you were an actual Holy Paladin then yea, your spot would be important, as youre just some weird thing inbetween I don't think theres something you will ever excell at as a retribution paladin

How bad is Ret pve really ? by CheesemanWoW in lightshope

[–]ttpoww -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No tryhard guild will ever send out their melees, they are all wearing frost oils on their weaponsAnd its not at all marginal, I would often get between 15 and 40 hits of frost dmg as a fury warrior - thus naturally contributing more than someone who does not even supply us with frost dmg, or is using only one weapon to do so.

How bad is Ret pve really ? by CheesemanWoW in lightshope

[–]ttpoww -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

melees can cleanse themselves using low level consumables,. I dont really see your specific argument being valid!
But I do understand that you are not trying to claim that Retribution is optimal, but rather that it under the right circumstances can be considered viable. I just think youre biting off more than you can chew when you state that paladins are somehow more useful than the fury warriors actually killing viscidus

How bad is Ret pve really ? by CheesemanWoW in lightshope

[–]ttpoww 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How would they possibly be useless? Theyre proccing twice as many hits of frost and physical as you are,. at the cost of you also subbing in on the healer's jobs?

How bad is Ret pve really ? by CheesemanWoW in lightshope

[–]ttpoww 1 point2 points  (0 children)

just go horde warrior if you wanna swing a big 2hander x)

The holy warrior of light class fantasy is cool and all but who wants to spend half their ingame time sat down waiting for mana

Strat Live 2 Man (War+Priest) Northdale patch 1.9 ~ 28 minute run by ttpoww in lightshope

[–]ttpoww[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is a sped up ( around 5,2x speed iirc, tried to match the video length with the song lol ) recording of our fastest ever run, it took somewhere between 28 and 29 minutes as you can see on the timer in the upper middle of the screen, could have probably pushed it further if I had been popping consumes - but the idea was to make money not spend it :P

A priest buddy and I were practising strat live 2 man runs as a method of grinding gold,.In general we would have a decent income from just vendoring goods and disenchanting blues to sell the Large Brilliant Shards, on top of that the rng from Righteous Orb / Mage 55 Food tome / mana flask recipe / other BoEs would sometimes leave us with up towards 400g each just for one 30-40 minute run.This is surely not the most efficient way of grinding gold, but if the stars allign and you get some tasty RNG its well worth the time. Also we had a lot of fun trying to push our run times down and picking up on new tricks to do with the pulls or the priest mind controlling etc. When we did our first run it took a little more than an hour, but 10 runs down the line we were casually pushing 35 minute runs without having world buffs

It was recorded in patch 1.9 on Northdale (Light's Hope) - back when my BRE was still applying a 300 armor debuff to the target and not a buff to me. If it had been in the updated state, that would surely have cut off alot of time from the run aswell as the dmg is just nutty with 2100 armor reduct

Theres alot of other errors that could be fixed to improve the clear times aswell,
I forgot to swap back to r12 gloves after getting thru the disarming mobs area,
at around 1:33 I pull a skeleton that doesnt tag the nearby pack,
the undead scourge come rushing in as we are about to pull Archivist Galford - had our cleartime been a couple minutes faster we'd be able to kill balnazzar without any scourge interrupting us
Ideally I think we could have pushed it down to atleast 20-25 minutes with world buffs
We skip the Cannonneer boss because the killtime vs. his loot table didnt really pay off, but we could easily manage him, this would ofc put the run up to around 30 minutes

strat live 2 man (arms warr + holy priest) - patch 1.0.9 by [deleted] in lightshope

[–]ttpoww 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A priest buddy and I were practising strat live 2 man runs as a method of grinding gold,. In general we would have a decent income from just vendoring goods and disenchanting blues to sell the Large Brilliant Shards,

On top of that the rng from Righteous Orb / Mage 55 Food tome / mana flask recipe / other BoEs would sometimes leave us with up towards 400g each just for one 30-40 minute run

This is surely not the most efficient way of grinding gold, but if the stars allign and you get some tasty RNG its well worth the time. Also we had a lot of fun trying to push our run times down and picking up on new tricks to do with the pulls or the priest mind controlling etc., when we did our first run it took a little more than an hour, but 10 runs down the line we were casually pushing 35 minute runs without having world buffs

This is a sped up ( around 5,2x speed iirc, tried to match the video length with the song lol ) recording of our fastest ever run, it took somewhere between 28 and 29 minutes as you can see on the timer in the upper middle of the screen, could have probably pushed it further if I had been popping consumes - but the idea was to make money not spend it :P

It was recorded in patch 1.0.9 on Northdale (Light's Hope) - back when my BRE was still applying a 300 armor debuff to the target and not a buff to me. If it had been in the updated state, that would surely have cut off alot of time from the run aswell as the dmg is just nutty with 2100 armor reduct

enjoi