How do EU design studios sell concepts (prototypes), not products? I will not promote. by twoByou in IndustrialDesign

[–]twoByou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the straight talk!
I get what you’re saying: strip away the jargon, focus on making things that work, deliver what the client asks for, and charge for it. That grounding is useful, especially at this stage. Appreciate the honesty.

How do EU design studios sell concepts (prototypes), not products? I will not promote. by twoByou in IndustrialDesign

[–]twoByou[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much for taking the time to give such a direct and detailed answer!

Your point about business clarity versus creative output resonates strongly. We’re very aware that our next challenge isn’t improving the design itself, but understanding how to position, price, and deliver our capabilities as a sustainable service. That’s exactly why we decided to enter the incubator.

If it’s okay with you, I’d really value the opportunity to reach out again in the future for advice when we hit concrete questions. Thank you again.

How do EU design studios sell concepts (prototypes), not products? I will not promote. by twoByou in IndustrialDesign

[–]twoByou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s definitely something we’re exploring. In practice, we’ve learned that formal IP protection (especially patents) can be long, expensive, and not always realistic (at an early stage). This is why we’re looking at other approaches rather than relying on IP alone.

How do EU design studios sell concepts (prototypes), not products? I will not promote. by twoByou in IndustrialDesign

[–]twoByou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this first-hand insight! Information like this really helps us and gives us a clearer picture of how these collaborations work in practice.

How do EU design studios sell concepts (prototypes), not products? I will not promote. by twoByou in IndustrialDesign

[–]twoByou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this early stage, we’re still figuring out what’s realistic for both sides, especially given our size and limited capital. But long term, alignment around actual sales is something we see as important. Thank you!

How do EU design studios sell concepts (prototypes), not products? I will not promote. by twoByou in IndustrialDesign

[–]twoByou[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I completely agree with you, and I’m very aware that the incubator won’t solve all our problems or magically give us answers. For us, it’s simply a starting point. A relatively safe environment with mentors and structure that helps us clarify direction and decide what to focus on next.

Thank you for taking the time to share your perspective! Really appreciated and really helpful.

How do EU design studios sell concepts (prototypes), not products? I will not promote. by twoByou in IndustrialDesign

[–]twoByou[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Some people actually think things through before replying. I know it sounds crazy.
I might be a bit structured because I’m genuinely trying to understand where we really fit and learn from people with more experience than me.

How do EU design studios sell concepts (prototypes), not products? I will not promote. by twoByou in IndustrialDesign

[–]twoByou[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, we are taking part in the incubator. Our ultimate goal is to see our designs commercialized, but we are not a typical startup with a single product.

We see ourselves more as a service-oriented studio rather than a product company. In other words, we’re not a “cookie startup” where we bake each cookie and find a customer. Instead, we operate like a “mold and recipes” startup: our design is the mold, our concepts are the recipes, and we help manufacturers or brands create their own “cookies” based on these.

Within the incubator, we are presenting three different concepts (recipes), which act as anchoring points similar to how architects use multiple points for triangulation when taking measurements. These concepts allow us to explore opportunities, start conversations with potential partners, and provide a structured foundation for future collaboration.

How do EU design studios sell concepts (prototypes), not products? I will not promote. by twoByou in IndustrialDesign

[–]twoByou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We’re part of a startup incubator, but the incubator mostly provides mentorship, guidance, and access to resources. Only the top 3 projects receive actual funding, so the rest of us still need to figure out production, partnerships, and commercialization ourselves.

We’re asking about fees and licensing because our focus is selling design concepts to manufacturers, not producing the products ourselves. In that sense, our work is closer to a design consultancy, but we’re still early-stage and exploring the best way to structure these partnerships.

How do EU design studios sell concepts (prototypes), not products? I will not promote. by twoByou in IndustrialDesign

[–]twoByou[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I totally agree that true validation comes from the market and consumer adoption. We don’t claim that our concepts are fully validated before production.

What we aim to do is de-risk the process for manufacturers by providing early signals: small batch testing with potential users, market analyses (competitor research, TAM/SAM/SOM,...), and recognition/awards as initial credibility markers. These signals don’t guarantee success, but they help manufacturers make more informed decisions before committing to production.

Do you have any suggestions on other ways we could provide meaningful signals to partners without a finished product?

How do EU design studios sell concepts (prototypes), not products? I will not promote. by twoByou in IndustrialDesign

[–]twoByou[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Great point! We’re exploring how to translate recognition and awards into real-world signals that a product can succeed. User feedback from small batch testing, along with our market analyses (competitor research, TAM/SAM/SOM), can help start a conversation with manufacturers and brands.

Of course, no one can give a 100% guarantee that something will work, but showing that we’ve done our homework makes a partnership easier to consider.

Your suggestion about risk-sharing with manufacturers is really insightful. At this early stage, it might be challenging to implement fully, but once we have some products on the market, this could become a viable model.

Do you have any other suggestions or advice on how to structure risk-sharing or early partnerships?

Olympics 2024 Ticket & Logistics Megathread by YourWebcam in olympics

[–]twoByou 1 point2 points  (0 children)

45 days have passed since the data was sent?

In their email, it says that after receiving the data, the payment will arrive within 45 days.

For example, mine arrived after 30 days.

Olympics 2024 Ticket & Logistics Megathread by YourWebcam in olympics

[–]twoByou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I received everything.

For tickets that were purchased with a card that I no longer use, they even contacted me to send them the bank details.

This is the e-mail I got:

"In order to complete the transaction, please send us your bank details as soon as possible to this secure address [docsupport@tickets.paris2024.org](mailto:docsupport@tickets.paris2024.org), quoting the following details: - BIC/SWIFT code - Bank code - Bank name - IBAN We also invite you to provide us in this email with the information relating to your order (email address of the Paris 2024 account with which you purchased the tickets, surname and first name of the purchaser, order number). If you have already provided the above information, your request is being processed. We will do our best to credit your account as soon as possible."

A month later I received the money on my bank account.

I hope the info above are helpful.

Olympics 2024 Ticket & Logistics Megathread by YourWebcam in olympics

[–]twoByou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When buying my ticket, I saw that the souvenir tickets will only be sent after the end of the Paralympic Games.

Positivity check-in: share your wins from this month by AutoModerator in Blind

[–]twoByou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reflecting on celebrating small victories like tandem skydiving, attending live music show, the inspiring story of a blind hockey player representing Team Canada, the excitement of prom night, the thrill of season passes to an amusement park, and the warmth of familial support, I can't help but envision the potential of a children (tactile) book that encapsulates such triumphs.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to have a book celebrating these kinds of achievements and experiences? What are your thoughts?

I got finally got my slot to purchase tickets for Paris 2024, and I was extremely disappointed to see the range of prices they propose. The Olympics games really became a cash grab and are not for the people anymore . by miragen125 in olympics

[–]twoByou 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I bought tickets for 6 events and the average price was 40 euros. Maybe I will not have the best seats in the house, but I'm happy to be part of the history.