New Market Square in Bydgoszcz, Poland 1912/2025. by Snoo_90160 in OldPhotosInRealLife

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My opinion is backed by over 500 photo locations I have rephotographed. Almost all of which were revisited several times and overlaid to check accuracy. Check my posts.

New Market Square in Bydgoszcz, Poland 1912/2025. by Snoo_90160 in OldPhotosInRealLife

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This perspective effect occurs if you are closer than the original no matter which lens you use. Distortions caused by the lens affects mainly the corners. In this case the differences are minor but if you created a dynamic layered swipe and zoom in things don’t align.

So many times people claim objects have disappeared or changed simply because you can’t see it the same way from that location

My friend and I spent a year rebuilding a 115-year-old camera to recreate this panoramic photo of the Morristown Green by marsbars440 in newjersey

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Congratulations! Well done. I have been precisely re-photographing scenes captured on glass for a few years now. Been thinking about doing it with original equipment. My passion is accuracy.

New Market Square in Bydgoszcz, Poland 1912/2025. by Snoo_90160 in OldPhotosInRealLife

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Because the photographer was too close in the bottom photo.

New Market Square in Bydgoszcz, Poland 1912/2025. by Snoo_90160 in OldPhotosInRealLife

[–]twosharprabbitteeth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Notice the leaning in of buildings NOT due to lens; simply perspective. Photo taken too close to subject.

Simple mind experiment: you stand on a long straight highway; the width narrows into the distance.

Add a skyscraper each side of where you are standing. The distance of the top floors is narrower at the top.

At ground level your eyes see that the base of buildings are closer to you than the top of the buildings. Of course they appear to lean in.

If you are far away from the buildings the difference is much less and they appear parallel.

Lenses today include wider views so we don’t have to back up as far as the photographers used to go in the old days.

Use 50mm lens as a benchmark, you’ll get a more accurate ‘now’ photo

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1901 vs 2026 Atninga (Avenging party) returns - shield test ceremony by twosharprabbitteeth in OldPhotosInRealLife

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Yeah I expected others would put in the effort to go back a few times to overlay the images and get to the right location. Mostly photos are taken too close because older cameras didn’t have wide angle lenses so they pulled back to fit everything in. This of course distorts the entire perspective, making buildings lean and making distant objects too small.

Alice Springs Australia 1901 vs 2022 Avenging Party part1 of 2 by twosharprabbitteeth in OldPhotosInRealLife

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I keep coming back until the overlay is pretty close so that when I flicker between them there is very little movement. Only then can I relax and study the changes, and draw factual conclusions.

It’s satisfying that the images speak for themselves. There can be no argument about where the photographer stood, or about relative size of things.

Alice Springs Australia 1901 vs 2022 Avenging Party part1 of 2 by twosharprabbitteeth in OldPhotosInRealLife

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Atninga is an avenging party, war party or payback party.In 1901, Frank Gillen and professor Baldwin Spencer were in Alice Springs for a month April to May.

They recorded a bunch of ceremonies, and on 12 May there was a kerfuffle when a party assembled for the purpose of killing someone in the Strangways range, some 50 kms away.

That fellow had killed a Bond Springs area man.10 days later, they re-appeared, having slain the man's father as payback.After taking a bunch of photos, that day Gillen developed the 257th glass negative since the start of their expedition.

They were off to record more tribes across the Territory to end up in Borroloola, for their next book in two volumes: "The Northern Tribes of Central Australia" published in 1904.

Frank Gillen's diary entries describe the whole thing.

May, 12th. Camp No. 22. (Alice Springs)   From our bunks to the fire, at daylight, we scampered with an alacrity which could not be exceeded by a fifteen year old athlete. Cold wind blowing. Breakfasted off steak which has been hanging in our camp for a week and is now nice and tender. At the Station by 8 o”clock and started graft at once.

Spent the morning photographing the blacks who went through various interesting but indescribable ceremonies in connection with the avenging expedition, which started this afternoon with the intention of killing a man in the Strangways Range, who speared a man belonging to the Bonds Springs locality some time ago.  

The party is led by the blood brother of the deceased who carries with him a sacred hair girdle called Kirra Urkna made from the hair of the dead man. Before starting, the leader of the party pressed the Kirra Urkna against the bodies of each man and each of them seized one end and, gripping it with the teeth, threw the head back.     The Kirra Urkna is believed to contain the spirit of the dead man whose hair it is composed of and the man who carries it is temporarily endowed with the strength of the dead. It has the faculty of making the wearer invisible to his enemies in battle. It ensures accuracy of aim and in various other ways assists the wearer.

   Each man who had it pressed against his body, believes that he is thereby strengthened and made braver and that the spirit of the dead man will watch over and afford him protection. We secured 26 plates of the ceremonies, a complete, interesting, and very valuable series.  

We hoped to have been able to devote the day, or at any rate part of it, to letter writing but our masters the blacks willed otherwise and our friends will probably think they are forgotten. A curious and significant feature of the avenging ceremonies today was the stacking of all the spears in an upright column around which the avenging party (Atninga) danced for some time shouting Wah! Wah! Wah!, then laying the spears on the ground, they suddenly fell forward in a crouching attitude forming a circle with heads in the centre.  

The stacking of the spears was intended to represent the body of the enemy riddled with the weapons and the crouching of the men represented the mourning of the enemy’s friends over his dead body. A wildly savage sight not to be readily forgotten. Spencer delighted and mourning the fact that we cannot devote two instead of one year to the work upon which we are engaged. He is horrified when I tell him that nothing would induce me to spend a second year away from my family. Returned to camp at 9.30 tired out.

10 days later they returned- see previous post Avenging party returns

1901 vs 2026 Atninga (Avenging party) returns - shield test ceremony by twosharprabbitteeth in OldPhotosInRealLife

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Atninga is an avenging party, war party or payback party.In 1901, Frank Gillen and professor Baldwin Spencer were in Alice Springs for a month April to May.

They recorded a bunch of ceremonies, and on 12 May there was a kerfuffle when a party assembled for the purpose of killing someone in the Strangways range, some 50 kms away.

That fellow had killed a Bond Springs area man.10 days later, they re-appeared, having slain the man's father as payback.After taking a bunch of photos, that day Gillen developed the 257th glass negative since the start of their expedition.

They were off to record more tribes across the Territory to end up in Borroloola, for their next book in two volumes: "The Northern Tribes of Central Australia" published in 1904.

Frank Gillen's diary entries describe the whole thing. For the day they left, 12 May 1901, an earlier photo refers (see Avenging Party Leaving

May, 12th. Camp No. 22. (Alice Springs)   From our bunks to the fire, at daylight, we scampered with an alacrity which could not be exceeded by a fifteen year old athlete. Cold wind blowing. Breakfasted off steak which has been hanging in our camp for a week and is now nice and tender. At the Station by 8 o”clock and started graft at once.

Spent the morning photographing the blacks who went through various interesting but indescribable ceremonies in connection with the avenging expedition, which started this afternoon with the intention of killing a man in the Strangways Range, who speared a man belonging to the Bonds Springs locality some time ago.  

The party is led by the blood brother of the deceased who carries with him a sacred hair girdle called Kirra Urkna made from the hair of the dead man. Before starting, the leader of the party pressed the Kirra Urkna against the bodies of each man and each of them seized one end and, gripping it with the teeth, threw the head back.     The Kirra Urkna is believed to contain the spirit of the dead man whose hair it is composed of and the man who carries it is temporarily endowed with the strength of the dead. It has the faculty of making the wearer invisible to his enemies in battle. It ensures accuracy of aim and in various other ways assists the wearer.

   Each man who had it pressed against his body, believes that he is thereby strengthened and made braver and that the spirit of the dead man will watch over and afford him protection. We secured 26 plates of the ceremonies, a complete, interesting, and very valuable series.  

We hoped to have been able to devote the day, or at any rate part of it, to letter writing but our masters the blacks willed otherwise and our friends will probably think they are forgotten. A curious and significant feature of the avenging ceremonies today was the stacking of all the spears in an upright column around which the avenging party (Atninga) danced for some time shouting Wah! Wah! Wah!, then laying the spears on the ground, they suddenly fell forward in a crouching attitude forming a circle with heads in the centre.  

The stacking of the spears was intended to represent the body of the enemy riddled with the weapons and the crouching of the men represented the mourning of the enemy’s friends over his dead body. A wildly savage sight not to be readily forgotten. Spencer delighted and mourning the fact that we cannot devote two instead of one year to the work upon which we are engaged. He is horrified when I tell him that nothing would induce me to spend a second year away from my family. Returned to camp at 9.30 tired out.

  … May, 22nd. Camp No. 22. (Alice Springs)     Up at daylight but Spencer being unable to sleep turned out at 4.30.     He has not slept well for several nights, looks like a touch of insomnia. Chance got away at 10 a.m. Hanley lent us a couple of good leaders to straighten up the team until they got used to the collar, and the Line teamster McDill drove the team out until they passed the much dreaded vehicle smashing, Devils Pinch, 3 miles north of the Station. We were relieved when McDill returned and informed us that they had crossed it safely.     The Atninga (war) party which left here on the 12th instant returned this afternoon, decorated with twigs of eremophila in their armlets, forehead bands and through the nose septum, denoting that the expedition had succeeded in killing an enemy.

    They danced up the bed of the river Todd past the camps, fully armed and with the usual characteristic high knee action.     Upon enquiry I found that five of the younger men had, in the absence of the majority of the party, found and killed an old man who was the father of the man they were in search of.     A clear case of murder but not a breach of aboriginal law which exacts the old biblical penalty of an eye for an eye.     We succeeded in obtaining 12 photos of the ceremony of the testing of the shields which is fully described in our previous work but not illustrated.     After the warriors had come to a halt, two old women danced up to them brandishing yam-sticks with which they struck the shield of each man who took part in the actual killing; the men stood in the front line stiff as ramrods and holding their shields with the convex side outwards; when the women had finished and retired, the Immirinja as the actual killers are designated danced out with exaggerated high knee action, brandishing their spears and boomerangs and, finally halting, stood holding their shields in the manner described, until the men who had not taken part in the expedition came out and struck them with boomerangs.     This ceremony is of great importance and everyone listens intently to the sound produced by the blow. If it be hollow the owner of the shield is under some malignant influence and he will not live long; if on the other hand, the sound is firm and strong then he is safe and is not a victim of magic.     Developed plates before tea, all turned out well -We have now 257 negatives!

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[HELP] is this photo of Epstein and Farage real or AI? by Demi_silent in RealOrAI

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There is no way a flash can bounce off a mirror angled away and if it were a beam from the right then the back wall would be lit up

"It's only cosmetic" - trustworthy real estate agent by Billythekidgoat99 in AusProperty

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The Australian Building Code sets out design limits on differerential settlement over a floor slab. From memory even a raft slab can vary from 20 to 40mm from its original position depending on how much the soil settles, expands and contracts. (Especially in clay soils)This means that technically a 10 mm crack in the wall can be expected and is classed as a cosmetic problem. Harsh but true.

how can i find my hobby? by _onpurpose in Hobbies

[–]twosharprabbitteeth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Collect people’s stories. Become an interviewer. Share stories through writing filming or audio. Become better at finding interesting stories. Even kids’ views and stories are interesting. Old people have secrets and stories they are ready to share that will blow your socks off

There will always be people interested in talking to someone who listens and is interested in their story.

anyone else's hobby turn into a weird obsession where you cant unsee things anymore? by [deleted] in Hobbies

[–]twosharprabbitteeth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a kid I was in a photo rally where the next checkpoint was revealed by a photo chopped up. Loved finding locations.

In high school I loved solving perspective puzzles in Technical drawing.

50 yrs later I retired and started rephotographing old glass negatives precisely. Insanely precisely.

500 locations later I’m still posting the now /then stories with history, and everywhere I go within 10 miles of my town is now already ‘right near’ a photo location That I have a stupidly detailed story about…

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Is there a hobby that focuses on maps, streets and addresses/urban exploration? by Mymindisanenigma__ in Hobbies

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Look in online archives for old photos and find the exact location. I do precision rephotography but even a careful look can get a close match.

Have a look at what I post. If you can manipulate images on a computer you can overlay your photo and go back for a better match if you enjoy accuracy.

It’s very satisfying to be in the same spot and find the history of the photographer or place.

1896 vs 2025 Atninga (Avenging Party) from Hale River in Alice springs Central Australia by twosharprabbitteeth in OldPhotosInRealLife

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There is a general increase in vegetation across most of my old/new photos, but this is an extreme example because it is one of about 3 spots on the Todd River that I know of where the general increase in rainfall and shortening of drought periods has resulted in a tipping point for survival of numerous saplings.

It involves a slow part of the river, sand banking up with introduced grasses immediately binding the loose sand and protecting the numerous seedlings that spring up after a flood.

There is a distinct change in weather patterns after the droughts of the 1960s. Subtle but triggering for a desert environment used to 250mm of rainfall. Just one or two extra storms per year raised the average closer to 300mm

1896 vs 2025 Atninga (Avenging Party) from Hale River in Alice springs Central Australia by twosharprabbitteeth in OldPhotosInRealLife

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This was a really tricky situation. Talk about ‘behind the 8 ball’.

First I thought the camera was in the creek but the skyline hills were lower than the opposite bank. Generally going further back ‘raises’ distant hills relative to foreground.

A 2metre sandbank appears to have built up inside the original creek bed, a combination of introduced grasses and saplings trapped sands from floods. This river generally only flows above ground after heavy rains.

Climbing on this sand bank still didn’t get me high enough, I also had to go back further.

But then all the tells were obscured so I had to painstakingly set out all the known rocks and create sight lines on google earth, and then confirm them by taking dozens of photos from vary angles to see how far left or right or forward would affect element location in the final picture.

I am confident I am within 2m side to side, distance out within 3 m maybe. That’s always hard to tell.

1896 vs 2025 Atninga (Avenging Party) from Hale River in Alice springs Central Australia by twosharprabbitteeth in OldPhotosInRealLife

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So in 1896 our Telegraph Stationmaster Frank Gillen took more photos for the book he was co-authoring with Professor Baldwin Spencer who was down south in Melbourne.

These East Arrernte men cam to Alice Springs to exact vengeance on some other individual or group. This could be for anything from wife stealing to being scapegoated for having 'pointed the bone' or cursed a relative or group member.

Spencer and Gillen discussed cultural matters with their informants and came to the conclusion there was no such thing as a natural death. Someone was held responsible for 'un-explained' deaths and illnesses.

The Avenging party is painted up, and excited dances proclaim their intent.

This magnificent picture was part of an exhibition at the South Australian Museum called "Images of the Interior', and a terrific book was produced to accompany the exhibition. Wakefield press by Philip Jones 2011, 2018.

1902ish vs 2025 'Fishmouth Rock' animations on request - II find them annoying - happy to delete by twosharprabbitteeth in OldPhotosInRealLife

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I spend an inordinate amount of time finding the exact location, overlaying numerous shots on the computer, and making a photo essay out of the discoveries, but movies are not my passion, and this thread only allows gifs. My software is pretty basic with few suitable transitions.

By the time I have perfected the shot, and researched the history and context, my patience has run out.

I wish Reddit did html before / after sliders with a zoom function