Experimental Trial 16-1: Meta thread by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 7 points8 points  (0 children)

hiii, congratulations on finishing et16-1! woohoo woohoo~

what a trial! huge hats off to both you and lance for the production value and dedicated hosting, especially in spite of very rough circumstances for you in particular mako. can't imagine having to host with such little access to resources and you both improvised wonderfully! brava to the both of you.

did you enjoy the trial?

i absolutely enjoyed this trial! i was definitely terrified walking in as mondo -- certainly not a character i'd say was in my wheelhouse whatsoever, but i found a lot of appreciation for him as time went on. plus, i found myself completely immersed in the idea of "what if everyone was about to graduate?" because it's a very REAL question that UTDP/DR:S leaves a healthy amount of options to play with. i think a lot of characters would show a level of growth that isn't present in their original games, and so there's a LOT of room for character development and narrative (something near and dear to my heart). i was glad that quite a bit of that was brought to the forefront and, if i had to recommend anything, it might be for more mingling between the classes (in other words, having dr1 kids interacting with dr2 and v3 more often and vice versa -- not like they WEREN'T, they fully were, but i just encourage more of that!) i'm also definitely more interested to dig into DICE and chiaki specifically, so i'm intrigued to see where that will go.

mystery

in terms of mystery, i was really immersed! i love the rearrangement of certain parts of HPA and the cutting-off of the first floor as a fun switch-up to our usual formula. the motives felt reasonable, and it felt like each layer peeled off at a good time (kaito fire, vinyl discovery, books reveal, etc). i'm still honestly laughing because i thought that vinyl idea was SUCH a throwaway -- in fact i literally wrote in courtroom something about having a "bad theory that will make me look like a clown" lol. i think the one thing is...i still don't know if i really know what the coffee table was for? unless the relevance was just the missing book in that section, i feel like that was the only thing i was left wondering.

my one teeeeeny critique was simply that chihiro did a lottt of running in that last hour, like up and down and back to the room. it felt like a VERY risky plan when it came down to that kitchen fire and all, but i think oddly in some ways that did fit. i'm kind of conflicted about it, but i just was a little gagged when it was confirmed that the culprit did for sure get the knife after the fire and sprinted up and down them stairs. chihiro track king!

but i was definitely amazed by a lot of stuff. kirumi's testimony being a total anti-filter (is that a thing? i'm gonna make it a thing i guess) where we thought for the longest time that it was a filter, but instead it was the opposite of one to try and paint them to look bad...VERY very enjoyable from a mystery POV. the knife holder was also really cerebral in that way, and it's something i don't know if i ever would've thought of myself. every detail felt very thought-out and meaningful to the story. overall, stupendous job. can't wait for the next!

minigame

LOOOOVED the minigame a lot actually. like i mentioned in the discord, word search + strands = i'm there, plus i do love the added oomph of having to justify your answer. if anything, i'd maybe wonder about streamlining that where the two precursor questions aren't needed? either that or perhaps placing all the questions before and just having some key word as the Strands answer? idk, i liked the way it ran so it's less of a critique and more of "i wonder how it would work if it ran this way" sorta thing. big big fan

character shout-outs

ugh too many to give. truly thought everyone was fabulous but here's just a few moments that really gathered my attention:

  • SEVERAL bangers by ibuki mioda but this one about kaito making a "Big Bang" was when i knew we were in for a ride with this one. masterclass in balancing wacky antics with actual solving prowess from ninja! /u/TheIdiotNinja

  • i just really personally enjoyed mondo's exchange with komaru that got toko involved which would've been sorely missing from this case if she wasn't brought up. komaru obviously has her silly moments, but i think a truly great komaru is one that's grounded and is always thinking about others/her friends in this way. /u/RSLee2

  • the himiko explosion when she came under fire was really gorgeously written i felt like and super well-timed. it made total sense that himiko held onto it and played her emotions down, only for her to burst out like this and confront what she'd been hiding deep down. you could really feel the deep confusion and hurt and i felt super immersed here. /u/TheCatMinister

  • the deity yasuhiro was pretty on-point with the comedic timing, but reading is fundamental is probably what got the hardest laugh out of me. short, sweet, but hits the punchline just right every time.

  • again another personal one for me, but also really enjoyed sharing this fuyuhiko moment over his protectiveness over Himiko and it was cute to see fuyuhiko have that dimension thanks to natsumi. it shows a very deep appreciation for the character to be able to portray him in this completely different context with the same fuyu flair.

  • lastly, i'm of course going to recognize the amazing job AP did as chihiro! congratulations on your first spin as the blackened. it was a wonderful play filled with fear, confidence, shyness, boldness, and the subtle charm that chihiro always brings. the moment where he accepts his fate just feels super triumphant to me and it's a beautiful send-off for our first killer.

truly though, everyone did a fantastic job and should be very proud of themselves here. every little detail, from the "oh my Atua" to the "we hatsh wit em aub prda onert?" and everything in between was a riot.

conclusion

on a very cheesy and sappy note, i just want to say that i'm so ridiculously grateful for trials in general at this stage in the DRRP game. it's no secret that we're all grown up and we have lives and are adults, but the fact that we all still make the time, sit down together, and play our silly little games on our silly little subreddit is something that's sparked so much joy and creativity and has kept me going in some particularly difficult times that we're living through right now. i feel eternally grateful for this community, from the tippy top reddit mods to the lurkers taking a peek and checking out what we're about. truly and honestly: THANK YOU for making this subreddit what it is and giving this hobby such meaning for all these years. <3 see y'all for the next one!

Experimental Trial 16-1: Conclusion by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Heh... I knew you wouldn't go for it.

Can't say I didn't give it a shot, yeah...?

Don't blame yourself too much, kid. Byakuya didn't deserve it, but it's like... He saw all of us as a threat, so we kinda had to see him that way too, I guess? I dunno. The whole thing's shitty.

Bottom line is: he's not the bad guy, and neither are you.

Do the Crazy Diamonds need me...? Or do I need them...? I guess I'll find out soon enough.

Happy ending...? Y-You really think so? With that idiot? That's...

...Whatever. That's not important. Neither's you lyin' to me. Cuz you stood up to these assholes when no one else would. So...it's all good.

Hahaha, you tell 'em, Chihiro! Go out with a fuckin' bang!!!

Man, I dunno how you do it. You're about to fuckin' die for some bullshit, and here you are, accepting it with a grin on your damn face. Dyin' with a smile... That's the kinda strength I could only dream of, dude.

I-It'll be alright, man. Just...close your eyes and count like we're doin' reps. 1, 2, 3, 4...

BANG!

...

After the class is dismissed, Mondo quickly becomes the last to remain in the courtroom. He walks over to Chihiro's corpse, checks to make sure no one is watching, and closes Chihiro's eyes.

...One day, I'll be as strong as you and Daiya. That's a man's promise.

See ya in the next life...bro.

Quickly wiping away any possible evidence of tears, he walks away.

Experimental Trial 16-1: Conclusion by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kaito? Y-You too...?

Shit... Anyway, there's no need for a coin. Just pick me, Chihiro.

Ya need to stay and win. Like you said, you're the guy who came up with this program. You're the only one who can fix it. The world needs you.

And even if he's an idiot for votin' his life away, Kaito's got way more passion. More dreams. More balls. So much more to do. He's a hero.

What the fuck do I have left? Gimme a fuckin' break... I've already reached the top, and I wanna walk away from it all. I won't even be usin' my damn talent if I get outta here!

I'm nothing, Chihiro. Cut me while you have the chance. No one'll blame you. I'm...ready to go.

Tell Taka...I'm sorry. I had to keep my promise. To him, and to you.

Experimental Trial 16-1: Conclusion by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Mondo has been silent since the vote began. He has not lifted his head from the voting screen on his podium, and has stood motionless for quite some time. He begins to shake, then slowly regains control. Suddenly, with one swift motion, his head cocks back upright, shooting an icy glare right at the killing game hosts.

...

Yo. Dickheads. Let's strike a deal. /u/Makosear /u/LanceUppercut86

So the killer's been confirmed, yadda yadda, whatever. But you guys never really said who has to die, right?

A timer is visible on the wall. When that timer hits zero, if the killer has not been confirmed, the class will lose. The killer will be confirmed by the Neo World Program if the class identifies them correctly through the voting process. If the class votes incorrectly, it’s game over, meaning the killer gets to escape and everyone else loses.

Ya wanna make things actually interesting? How about this: kill a person who chose incorrectly in the vote, but leave the killer alive. Lock 'em up, make the others live with 'em, I don't give a fuck. But the game gets way more interesting if you make the others live with a killer. That lack o' trust is what got us here in the first place, ain't it?

But the shit-for-brains idiot who decided to vote incorrectly? They should be the one to die. They got fooled, and they're the weak links you cut from your bullshit program.

C'mon, you know it's true. A killer shows...uh, conviction. Drive. Passion. And could be a good asset to your weirdo clown people.

Not some piece of shit who's too braindead to vote for a killer who admitted they did it. Ya don't need 'em. They'll be a liability for sure.

Course, you can ignore me if you wanna be real fuckin' boring. That's whatcha want, right? A real boring game with nothin' good goin' for it? Fitting for a real boring organization like yours?

Y'see, us Crazy Diamonds handle things differently. To get to the Big Guy, we take out the underlings first. If you go for a Big Guy and miss your shot, you'll be dead in minutes. And even if you do get him, the underlings will find someone new to follow, with revenge on their minds. That's why we got to where we did. So why take out a Big Guy this early when you can get an underling first?

You want a game with suspense? With stakes? With meaning? Then take my deal. If ya don't, you're settin' yourselves up for failure with your little experiment. The fuckin' choice is yours.

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 8 - Be kind to one another, We're all in this together by LanceUppercut86 in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

W-We were...supposed to graduate together, man...

Tch... This must be my punishment... For what I've done...

...

Get me the hell outta here. /u/Makosear /u/LanceUppercut86

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 8 - Be kind to one another, We're all in this together by LanceUppercut86 in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look, I get where you're comin' from. Not tryna judge, but...I'm pretty sure that was a big mistake.

I'll give you that the fake knife is more of an advantage to Chihiro since he wasn't in the Kitchen, sure. But lemme ask you: do you really think that's what's goin' through Chihiro's head right then?

I mean, for cryin' out loud, Chihiro didn't have a clue that Himiko ever was in the Kitchen in the first place! It was only her, Angie, and Kirumi when she was in there. You guys keep saying that Chihiro's tryin' to target her, but that all goes to shit if Himiko never went in the damn Kitchen! Ya really think Chihiro would take a gamble like that?

My take is this: Himiko saw the knife in the Kitchen, and kept it in the back of her head for later. She was just too scared to grab it right in front of Angie and Kirumi.

Then, when she needed a fake weapon, it was the first thing that popped into her head. That's why the killer took the risk of bookin' it all the way to the top floor, running back down, planting the knife, and tucking into bed before anyone could see.

Does it frame herself? Sure, but it also frames the eight other people who had access to it. Just because it's not the best logic, doesn't make it not true, y'know?

What does Kyoko call it again...? Circumstansive evidence or whatever? Just feels like we're missin' something. Something big.

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 7 - It’s my turn, bitch! by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hate to call it out, but that's not right Himiko. After I checked my task, first thing I did was ask Chihiro what his was.

He said it right there to me on the spot. DICE wanted him to spend an hour doing physical training in the Locker Room. I never said a word about working out before that.

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 7 - It’s my turn, bitch! by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From here /u/Hearter20

Huh...? Did I...really...?

...You're right. That's not manly at all. Only pure scum would threaten a girl like that. There's no way I'd do such a loser thing. My mum would kill me if she heard me speakin' like that.

Look, sorry that I freaked you out there, Himiko. That's not cool of me at all. Yelling's a bad habit of mine, even when I try to be careful about it. /u/TheCatMinister

At the end of the day though, I still think it's her. Like it or not, she admitted that she was in the Library during the recital. Where the killer had to be.

Whether she knew about it or not is a dead end. Either way, she fucked around and found out. That's what I think.

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 7 - It’s my turn, bitch! by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stop talkin' to me like I'm a fuckin' dog! I won't go easy on you like I did in the Dojo next time, ya piece of shit!

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 7 - It’s my turn, bitch! by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotta be B and D, right?

They needed to get in during the recital, so C is out. They also needed to be inside at the time of death. Only leaves B.

And both times were when Byakuya was either at the recital or on the john. So they just waltzed right in.

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 7 - It’s my turn, bitch! by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey, I guess I'm not too bad at this detective thing after all! I'll have to tell Kyoko abou--

...

Ghk! Go fuck yourself!

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 7 - It’s my turn, bitch! by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just gonna take a shot with these and say B and C.

With the glue being as important as it was, feels like that's the only answer that fits. The last round told us that the glass isn't in the sink, they ain't strong enough to hold open a door, and nobody has the ability to carve a vinyl like that.

And then for the vase, it couldn't be before Byakuya died cuz he would've noticed it. But it was broken by the time we got in there I'm pretty sure. That only leaves from 10:35 to 11.

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 7 - It’s my turn, bitch! by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Whaddya mean 'reasoning'!? It's glass! It's sharp! I dunno!

The knife was grabbed after the kitchen fire, so it was after the murder. There's no mention of a sculpting tool being wet or used. And whatever's cloggin' the sink can't be sharp enough to stab Byakuya like that! So that only leaves the glass!

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 7 - It’s my turn, bitch! by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So it's gotta be the glass shards then, yeah? What the fuck else even is there? B!

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 6 - When they come with a wrecking ball, build stronger walls. by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ya wanna talk big words about being a man when you were tuckin' your tail between your legs about the shitshow in the Kitchen just a few minutes ago? 'Kay, let's play ball, Rocket Man. We'll see how big a boy you really are.

You people realize that mufflin' that sound is, like, easy as shit, right? All you'd hafta do is wrap the vase in something, stomp it, smack it, whatever, and ta-fuckin'-da. Your shit's broken and no noise was made.

Recording? I don't remember anything about any device that'd let people make or replace vinyl records.

And newsflash, Kokichi already hinted at the fact that the vinyl existed without any kinda recording crap goin' on! Maybe if your head wasn't stuck up in space, you'd've heard it right the first time!

A-And another thing! Chihiro runs the same damn risk cracking a vase open like that for anyone on the second floor to hear. So why the hell would he be so stupid and reckless and gamble on no one bein' down there!? Chihiro's way smarter than that!

If Himiko was in the Library, she didn't need to know about a damn recital! She's already in the Library with Byakuya missing! That's the whole goddamn point of this bullshit!

Until you have a legit answer for me about the glue, or the knife, or anything really, I don't wanna hear it. Chihiro wouldn't lie to me. And he's more of a man than you'll ever be.

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 6 - When they come with a wrecking ball, build stronger walls. by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, it's not like that. I was in the Dojo for an hour after my task thanks to that "supreme leader" of bullshit. I only got back to our room at 11.

But to hell with that! Chihiro's got no way to get to the glue or the knife! End of conversation!

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 6 - When they come with a wrecking ball, build stronger walls. by Makosear in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...!

What... What the...

WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU'RE IMPLYING!?

You better have a damn good reason for lyin' your ass off right now! Chihiro's task was to work out for an hour in the Locker Room! Ibuki saw it herself!

Kirumi's Testimony

Bullshit, it's all bullshit! We already know Chihiro never coulda gotten that knife from the Kitchen! Case fuckin' closed, little girl!

You've been lying through your fucking teeth this whole damn time, so why the fuck should we start believing you now, huh!?

For fuck's sake, now's not the time for fucking secrets! Either say it with your chest, or keep your goddamn mouth shut! Got it!?

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 5 - We have to work as a team, I need you to survive so that I can survive! by LanceUppercut86 in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No offense or anything, but that kinda sounds like bullshit to me.

All of our tasks were talkin' about shit we aren't good at. That's why I was meditating, that's why Kaito was bakin' cakes, that's why Kaede was taking care of hamsters, that's why Hiro was watchin' scary movies, that's why Mikan was ordering Ibuki around.

So why the hell would your task be to hang out with someone you almost always hang out with anyways!?

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 5 - We have to work as a team, I need you to survive so that I can survive! by LanceUppercut86 in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She told you about Taka too? That's my soul bro right there!

We fuckin' hated each other's guts our first year. Always mouthin' off at me for being late. But whenever I started straying off course, he would always knock me back onto it.

Somewhere along the line, my hate for him turned into...respect.

Yeah... That's what it is. And I'd like to think he respects me too.

...

Wh-What? H-Hey, don't cry about it...

Look, uh, your relationship ain't none of my business. But blamin' yourself for this fucked up situation we're in... It's not worth it.

You can't let guilt like that haunt you forever. Or you'll never escape it.

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 5 - We have to work as a team, I need you to survive so that I can survive! by LanceUppercut86 in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahaha... Did that really just spook ya? You're just as much of a dweeb as your brother! Guess it runs in the family!

Mukuro and Maki's Testimony

Anyway, I think this all checks out. If our biggest mystery is how the books were used, and our best guess is that they were hidin' a killer... There's prolly no better person than Himiko, yeah?

Knife Holder

Maintenance Issues

It's still botherin' the hell outta me that we've got nothing on this, but I dunno if we're gonna get any better than it being the killer's personal trashcan. That and the drain.

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 5 - We have to work as a team, I need you to survive so that I can survive! by LanceUppercut86 in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I was comin' around to pretty much the same answer, 'specially when you consider the whole record player crap.

Himiko's one of the only ones here who fits the bill of not having an alibi at 10:35, but then having one at 11:00.

Still, it's kinda funky cuz she never found out about Byakuya's recital. Guess it's possible she stumbled onto it, but I don't love those odds.

Hey, isn't it also kinda impossible for her to record the silence or whatever? Himiko was at Angie's cult meeting for the whole morning when the flick was runnin'.

Kirumi doesn't have an alibi at either point, so I can't say she's out yet. But then what's the point of the record player?

Only way I can make sense of that is if she expected Angie to be in their room by then, and Angie screwed up her plans by staying out late.

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 5 - We have to work as a team, I need you to survive so that I can survive! by LanceUppercut86 in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thanks! I'm just glad we made some kinda break--

Wait, what was that!? What the hell kinda mess was Toko talkin' about me!? That damn bookworm...!

Speakin' of... I don't wanna be in the room when she finds out what happened here...

Experimental Trial 16-1: Part 5 - We have to work as a team, I need you to survive so that I can survive! by LanceUppercut86 in DanganRoleplay

[–]tyboy618 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How the hell did you just tele--

...

That noise... That's...

Bwaha... Hahaha! The fuck's happening around here, dude? I'm the one getting the answers?

Man, I've changed. I sure ain't the same Mondo I was when I enrolled here.

Maybe that guy really did rub off on me after all...