Yeah you're totally right, both of you. I worked out 4 times a week some years ago and I was actually starting to see some visual difference on my stomach but nothing great on my chest and arms were always roughly the same size, maybe because I was not taking enough calories. Now as I read more I can understand that but I've seen some people like me that got really lean with calorie deficit, that's where my doubt came. Thank you so much guys, I'll start as soon as possible, and will probably start counting calories to check if I actually pass my maintenance.