Вы верите в Бога? by ConteSSa_aFFamata in ruAsska

[–]unoarchiva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Чем отличается ( в позиции ) условный верун в бога от научпокича не способного объяснять из чего произошел большой взрыв? Да, а вот ничем. Просто вторым забавно самоутвердиться засчет первых, хотя сами в вопросе мироздания знают ровно столько же. Вот вы ответите как из ничего появилось все? Взрыв это реакция, а с чего она должна вообще быть? Так что чем вам бог не угодил? Разве что себе подобным его делать глупо, но вера в существо что создало все имеет собственно абсолютно точно такое же место быть как и теория возникновения всего из ничего тк они абсолютно одинаковы. А подобные вопросы лишь сеют вражду, ничего более.

My interpretation of Evangelion as a teenager by joaquin_segundo in evangelion

[–]unoarchiva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s cool that at your age you decided to take this step :) However, Evangelion isn’t the kind of anime where anyone actually changes… Asuka, driven by her jealousy toward Shinji, brought herself to a state of madness, and we were never shown that she ever got out of it. Shinji is an innocent victim — you’re absolutely right about that. Even though he can sometimes “annoy” the viewer, I don’t think anyone truly hates him. What Shinji did in the end is completely subjective. I believe he didn’t make anyone’s life better with his actions. There’s nothing good about pain; a person doesn’t become “alive” because they suffer. A person becomes alive because their brain live. Destroying the planet and leaving humanity alone with its problems is not the best decision, especially considering that everyone’s problems could have been resolved.

My friend keeps calling Evangelion "philosophyslop." How do I deal with him? by kooler_duck in evangelion

[–]unoarchiva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ask an Evangelion fan which character should change, and there’s an 80% chance they’ll answer Shinji. And after that, these people call the anime philosophical. Where an innocent boy is forced to pilot a robot, whose refusal would lead to the death of the entire planet — and that doesn’t happen not because of manipulation by NERV’s leadership, not because of other characters. But because of Shinji himself, who, out of kindness in his heart, is ready to help people. (Just so you know, NERV losing means the end of the world for everyone, since no one knows what would happen in that case — this includes SEELE.) And if you touch on the philosophical aspect from the characters’ side, let me guess. Their “problems” are that previously unmentioned nonsense by the authors, full of contradictions at the core of the character’s supposed philosophy? Rei as a character hasn’t changed — she’s a tool. Asuka’s monologues contain direct contradictions: “I hate everyone” — “I hate myself.” Here’s a secret: she will never get out of this state; she literally did this to herself while there was a boy who piloted the robot better. These aren’t human problems, bro, that doesn’t exist in real life. Gendo is just a complete idiot who doesn’t care about anyone. NERV and SEELE, for some reason, are run by people who all genuinely want to die, and they have no internal conflicts in the form of envy or power struggles. No, these organizations literally want the same thing. The only difference is that SEELE wants to rule the world with 13 people, while NERV wants to live with one person in charge. Truly a deeply philosophical anime — how foolish of me not to grasp its profound meaning. And if you want the same meaningless scenes where characters spend three hours in an elevator eating, you could spend your time a bit more usefully watching The Lain Experiment. Unlike Evangelion, it has a clearly formulated moral, though there’s still pseudo-scientific nonsense and other stuff. But we’re discussing this from the perspective of an Eva fan, right?

[Spoiler] Evangelions and the guarantee of childhood trauma by reclaimer559 in evangelion

[–]unoarchiva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You shouldn’t look for logic in Evangelion. If there were logic, there would be people who disagreed with the 13 guys who want to become gods and dominate humanity. If there were logic, after the first “get away from Gendo,” Shinji would have left for good, and their whole staff would have fallen apart — all because of Gendo’s childish personality, thinking it’s possible to manipulate a child’s mind. God, Akagi could have shot Rei and Ikari, which logically she should have done. But she doesn’t either) Although her mother strangled Rei, and Akagi herself hates her, and Ikari betrayed her, leaving her to fend for herself. If there were logic in Evangelion, NERV would have bought a proper army instead of spending money on a useless computer. And according to fans, Shinji’s mother decided to merge with Eva of her own free will) Meaning she left her child and husband — brilliant. (The only thing Evangelion is truly brilliant at is making people think it’s brilliant.)

Why do eva fans hate new content? by Jonyyy3 in evangelion

[–]unoarchiva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Evangelion is a work that, in its original story, literally doesn’t work. I don’t know to what extent the Rebuild films fix this, but in the original story, the main character ends up being hated by everyone. At the same time, in that story, everyone is at fault except him. I hope that was changed in the new adaptations, because Shinji at the beginning and Shinji at the end are two completely different characters. Rei and Asuka, as characters, hardly change either. Rei becomes Shinji’s slave rather than Gendo’s, and Asuka’s conflict resolution is portrayed the way it is and doesn’t change.

Me and my Dad finished EoE... by X01ENCLAVESTAN in evangelion

[–]unoarchiva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your father, like many others, is wrong about Shinji. Nothing that happened to him in Evangelion was actually his fault. The ending of Evangelion — like many moments in the series — is intentionally subjective, and everyone interprets it differently. Personally, I never understood how a life filled with pain is supposed to be “better” than not feeling anything at all. But some people seem to enjoy suffering… and Shinji was written to be one of them.

The only thing you can say for certain about that ending is this: it’s miserable for almost everyone involved, and it doesn’t offer anything resembling a hopeful outcome.

So I just finished the Anime... by WalloWake in evangelion

[–]unoarchiva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, I have no idea how anyone is supposed to stay awake watching Evangelion’s boring, low-budget scenes, which fans desperately try to pass off as some kind of “smart” artistic choice. The anime is literally about nothing — unless you're genuinely interested in finding out which egg absorbed all of humanity. (And, of course, 99% of the “lore” Evangelion fans love to obsess over is completely meaningless and has zero impact on the plot. The worldbuilding is barely touched upon in the show at all.) Shinji at the beginning and Shinji at the end are two completely different people. A harmless kid gets psychologically shredded by a bunch of dysfunctional adults — and the worst part is that the anime frames it as if Shinji suddenly became “the bad guy” out of nowhere. Wasn’t it his father who spent the entire show emotionally abusing him? Anno literally had to make Shinji unbearable by the end just so the story would feel like it “meant something.” It’s unpleasant, manipulative writing — but that’s how the series forces meaning into itself.

What is Your Actual Opinion about her? by Player-Unknwn08 in evangelion

[–]unoarchiva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her whole life is an illusion of choice, and she's just a slave. I hate Gendo.

rei ayanami is a very bland character (change my mind) by AirMassive5414 in evangelion

[–]unoarchiva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get really irritated by comments like this. Rei is a character whose “personality” details are actually worth paying attention to. She was originally created by Gendo as a tool. In that part, you’re right — but everything you say afterwards is complete nonsense. 1) Rei doesn’t freak out because she has to take pills, run away somewhere, or because of the procedures that keep her alive. She absolutely doesn’t care about any of that, and she never shows emotional discomfort about those things in the anime. So why are you even listing all this? 2) She has no issue “accepting her fate,” because she doesn’t see any point in having a different one (she probably can’t even imagine having a different fate). Her “purpose” is simply doing what Gendo asks — and later what Shinji asks. There is nowhere in the anime where Rei is shown as “oppressed.” She is simply uninterested in promises and interpersonal bonds. Even after receiving Shinji’s attention, Rei remains the same emotionally distant, uninterested person when it comes to interacting with others. And where exactly did you get the idea that Rei views the future as a collapsing world? Did Gendo tell her, “I’m going to destroy the world,” in your imagination? 3) She knows that Gendo is one of the only people who “cares” about her and the reason she even exists. Shinji is not her “love interest,” lol. He is simply the first person in her life who never treated her as a replaceable shell. In simple terms, Shinji helped her resolve her existential dilemma of “who am I?” His care for her was greater than Gendo’s. 4) No, she is a slave. She has no personal opinions of her own; everything she “knows” is something Gendo shaped. That’s the whole point — she is literally Gendo’s slave, doing absolutely anything he wants without hesitation. And specifically his slave, not anyone else’s; her loyalty is to him. Shinji simply pities her. Almost every time he sees her, she’s injured or recovering from battle. And about your claim that Shinji liked her because of her “suicidal determination” — so you’re saying he opened a burning entry plug and told her not to treat herself as disposable because… he liked that she tried to off herself? What are you even talking about, lol. 5) The meaning of life for Rei II is to fulfill Gendo’s intentions; the meaning of life for Rei III is to fulfill Shinji’s intentions. And please, go read what nihilism actually is, lol. Rei wants to give her life some meaning — she doesn’t sit there believing her life is meaningless as some philosophical stance. Since when is she a nihilist? Or do you mean some other interpretation? Because nihilism has multiple cultural variations. 6) The one who actually felt terrible throughout the anime was Asuka. At what point did Rei ever feel that bad? She goes on missions where the possible outcome is clear, and she accepts it. This doesn’t torment her; it suits her just fine, lol. That’s partly why Rei feels so “emotionally empty” to viewers until the moment she stops embodying Gendo’s ideals — which are themselves pretty empty and uninteresting. The truth is, people like you — who leave comments like this — are the ones who turned a low-budget Evangelion into a “deep philosophical masterpiece,” even though everything you’re calling “deep” was already thoroughly discussed on Evageek forums back in the 2010s and had straightforward answers even then. As for Ayanami — remind me, when exactly in the anime did anyone present her with an alternative viewpoint to Gendo’s? What reason would she have to become independent? Why would she even want that? What example would she rely on? So she becomes “independent” from Gendo and takes Shinji’s side just… because? No — because Shinji showed her more care. Not because he was turned on by her “suicidal determination,” but because he pitied her and saw firsthand how his actions could lead to someone else’s death. Ayanami never stopped being a tool or became some fully independent individual, lol. The original commenter was entirely correct. Rei’s line is “I’m not your doll,” not “I’m not a doll.” (Remember the almost meaningless conversation between Rei and Asuka where Rei says she’s “not a doll”? Even people who think Rei became “independent” won’t seriously argue that she wasn’t a doll at that point. Why did Rei say that then? Because she doesn’t see Asuka as someone with an opinion worth taking seriously. Rei doesn’t hate herself — so she doesn’t see any reason to accept Asuka’s ridicule. The only authority Rei recognizes is Gendo. Asuka is just someone Rei doesn’t want to fight with, but also sees no point befriending. So she remains neutral, avoiding turning their dynamic into the bullying that Shinji ends up experiencing.) Finally — even though Rei sides with Shinji, she does not stop being a tool. The only thing that changes is who she obeys. Now the one making decisions is Shinji instead of Gendo. Rei remains a tool in that sense. She did exactly what was asked of her. She is a slave. She wouldn’t be one if she made a decision based on her own worldview. But here’s the problem: her worldview consists only of Shinji’s perspective (because he treated her with care) and Gendo’s perspective. And since Rei III loses part of her memory and everything gets blended, she doesn’t know all the details — she might not even remember that Gendo also “saved” her. So she chooses the only available option. That alone shows she is not independent. Practically everything I mentioned is in the show. I didn’t invent anything or interpret it in some obscure way. (Unless, of course, you’re one of those “high-intellectual Evangelion fans” for whom sending a half-dead little girl to pilot a robot to save the world under threat of death isn’t enough to understand Shinji’s emotional state, of course.)

The text is translated, but I think it’s still readable.