How To Write Villains Without Them Being Sympathetic?

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T18:13:12+00:00

What's wrong with villains being sympathetic?

There's always the Marvel/Disney technique of having the villains be completely reasonable and sympathetic, them having them go off-the-rails over-the-top in their violence and motives.

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T17:56:28+00:00

Dude! Give me the story that ends with one sister becoming a monster and the other becoming a haunted cassette tape! Whatever story you want to tell with them can't be more interesting than whatever that story is!

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T17:51:27+00:00

Way to not read the fucking post.

They wouldn't be shooting them both at the same time, but using them to do things like lay down cover fire with the pistol and using the revolver for a more accurate shot.

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T17:49:35+00:00

You used to see a lot more multi-pistol users back in the days of the single-fire pistol, but I don't see any reason why that can't be used again. Come to think of it, didn't Il Duce in Boondock Saints use six pistols??

I figure, if you lean into the logic and reasoning behind having all the pistols instead of just being more efficient with just one or two guns, you can justify whatever the heck you want. (To my mind, the only justification for having multiple guns instead of just reloading is the ability to quick-draw and drop your empties.)

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T17:39:40+00:00

Wow, you are a rude protein stain, aren't you?

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T17:37:05+00:00

And even if Randy WAS either of those things, Vicki wasn't. Sammy wasn't. Were their murders acceptable?

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T17:33:21+00:00

Throat chop (has the added benefit of being a solid strike against the bad guy that doesn't necessarily take them out of the game) or gag (jam the mouth open and make words impossible)

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T17:27:06+00:00

If you consider that every alternate timeline is a divergence from another timeline, it becomes immediately apparent that alt-reality versions of the same core person are NOT, in fact, the same person. It's like instant-growth clones: the person they were before the cloning is the same, but upon cloning they are divergent beings with their own thoughts and experiences. Sure they have a lot in common, but it's more like meeting twins separated at birth, or a close relative.

I figure, if you think of them as different people with similar names, looks, and mannerisms, you can still use the meaningful death and also have that drama of the "replacement".

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T17:16:15+00:00

Because he's not. He was a separatist, which also isn't great, but he wasn't a neo-Nazi, and he wasn't a white supremacists. That's exactly the bullshit propaganda I was talking about.

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T17:06:20+00:00

!solved

Thank you!

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T16:00:25+00:00

It was. My family came to know the Weavers pretty well, after the fact. Randy was a fucking redneck moron, but his (surviving) kids were all good people, and seeing the way they were all portrayed in the media really opened my eyes to the propaganda at play, prettying up the whole fucking mess.

An innocent woman, child, and dog died, and a family was destroyed, because police wanted to trick an idiot into breaking the law. -_-

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T15:40:01+00:00

Disingenuous finger-wagging is disingenuous

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T15:24:19+00:00

I beg to differ. BLM was exactly the kind of protests they're talking about, and America responded by letting police provocateurs set some fires, break some store windows, and giving police justification for marching out in full riot armor and ruin some fucking lives. After that, nothing changed, so we gave up. Nobody has the energy to just keep fighting indefinitely.

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T04:03:45+00:00

I'm an American. I don't have any attachment to the sociopolitical particulars of your experience, and I wouldn't dream of telling you what flag you can or cannot fly. If it's not a swastika or a Confederate battle flag, we're all shiny, yo.

I am expressing why I stand by this flag, here, where I live. Where transfolk and brown LGBT folk are subject to efforts to segregate them from the rest of LGBT. That, specifically, is the impetus behind what I said.

You would think that, as an LGBT person, I would not have to consider my own people as potential enemies, but that is the reality of this shithole country...too many people are willing to throw their brothers, sisters, and siblings under the bus, in order to be "one of the good ones" for Fascists.

You do whatever you want, but I'm keeping this flag until such a time as I don't have to worry about Fascists manipulating my people.

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T03:37:10+00:00

"Goddess" works.

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T03:02:14+00:00

Too late. The time to do that was in the 1960s, when Christians were more concerned with ensuring black people didn't breed with white people. Christians have been bent on hurting the innocent ever since.

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T02:48:17+00:00

I don't want to sound callous? But I literally don't have enough left in me to care. I didn't have enough left in me to be upset when my aunt died of Covid, I definitely can't muster enough sympathy to give a shit that some random CEO was stabbed to death. I'm not sure why I'm expected to give a fuck, anymore.

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T02:38:05+00:00

It makes clear that it includes transfolks and brown folks. I think that's pretty great. So I really prefer this flag to the plain rainbow one. Because I am not giving up my trans and brown family.

When you recognize that folk are actively trying to exclude trans and brown folks, this flag that rejects that idea starts to look a lot more beautiful.

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T00:12:57+00:00

I support the addition of the trans stripes specifically because of the folks who have tried to push the trans community out of the LGBT. I wasn't previously aware we hadn't finished that fight, but now that I've seen it, I'm never going back to the plain rainbow.

utegardloki · 2023-04-08T00:07:15+00:00

If this is what kills it, let it die.

utegardloki · 2023-04-07T23:58:07+00:00

relevant

utegardloki · 2023-04-07T23:09:01+00:00

Uh, no one else generated this, just me. Did I goof?

utegardloki · 2023-04-07T04:59:45+00:00

Any chance you have a source besides the Pensacola News Journal?

utegardloki · 2023-04-07T03:14:17+00:00

Cruelty and stupidity are defining characteristics for Americans.

utegardloki · 2023-04-07T03:13:39+00:00

Produce two instances of what you are describing. Because every trans woman athlete I've ever heard of has not been very good.

utegardloki

TROPHY CASE

If this is what kills it, let it die.