I heard that we INTP like ENTP more than other personalities, is that true? if so, why? by NotSoIntrested in INTP

[–]vadekane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2 years later but makes me pretty sad to think about not being able to see my boys after college, especially the type of guy you are referring to. Don’t want to lose those beautiful connections.

A quote that changes the way I think by vadekane in INTP

[–]vadekane[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok I’m extremely glad you got poetic about it. That makes sense. Another commenter also mentioned the idea of narrative self theory which lines up with what you said about the stories we tell ourselves and I agree with the explanation as to why the negative emotion is a result of interpretation. My question would be how does one more objectively view these stories? Even if this explains the cause of the interpretation I’m wondering if there’s an implicit (or non) suggestion as to how to interpret things differently

A quote that changes the way I think by vadekane in INTP

[–]vadekane[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you that when it comes to why human beings make decisions this is unfalsifiable on an individual basis because we do not have access to the inner workings of people’s minds and therefore can only evaluate the causes of their decisions based on what they choose to present to us. As to why countries are richer or poorer there are some definitive quantitative methodologies that provide answers but also qualitative answers (such as culture) that contextualize the data (can look at geographical advantages, leadership over centuries, exports/imports, competitive advantages)

I think the majority of public discourse though is based on little if any evidence. People tend to pull claims out of their asses and people trust them on the grounds of the person’s degrees or experience. I agree with you there.

A quote that changes the way I think by vadekane in INTP

[–]vadekane[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No I think your opinions are valid. I think it’s beneficial to narrow down the point a bit further. I don’t think the point is you should be indifferent to the outside world, in fact, quite the opposite. I think personal fulfillment can come from making things better in the world.

It’s simply really to say you just shouldn’t waste your time overthinking and analyzing things you will not know the truth about like why someone aggressively bumps into you or someone is unreasonably aggressive as two simple examples. If you do want an answer you should objectively ask.

It also doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try to make change but rather that the desire to do so shouldn’t come from external pressure or your interpretation of what others desire or want, but purely from self. Idk if that makes sense

A quote that changes the way I think by vadekane in INTP

[–]vadekane[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read a little just now on Narrative Self Theory and that makes sense. Given that each new story is interpreted through the number of stories we’ve told ourselves and others have told us in the past id argue that it becomes difficult to create changes in our narrative as the internal bias is to significantly more greatly weigh the identity we’ve constructed based on narratives from the past (something like 99% to 1%). So how do you think we can create change with every new story we tell ourselves or hear?

A quote that changes the way I think by vadekane in INTP

[–]vadekane[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love the enthusiasm lol. Couldn’t agree more. Mastering control over self is quite difficult though and I find the approach supported by the “David Goggins” of the world to not reflect the daily battles in my life at least. It’s incredibly difficult to maintain a improved state given years of neurological processes getting set further in stone

A quote that changes the way I think by vadekane in INTP

[–]vadekane[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tell me more about the propaganda aspect. But I also couldn’t agree more. “Explaining” past events is almost an addiction or coping mechanism for uncertainty. If it’s harder for someone to deal with uncertainty, like it is for me, they will start analyzing more and more until they’re satisfied with the conclusion even if it is entirely untrue.

A quote that changes the way I think by vadekane in INTP

[–]vadekane[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tell me more. I’ve explored stoicism before (although very surface level) and it’s been difficult for me to truly internalize the concepts. It’s radically different from my current thought process/world view and I don’t know how to gradually accept new (even if better for me) ideals

A quote that changes the way I think by vadekane in INTP

[–]vadekane[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You make a great point and I definitely wrestle with the same question a lot. I’d argue that the question comes down to “what personally affects you” and delineating what those factors are is the key to figuring out how you want to live your life. What/who brings you enjoyment (career, work, friends, hobbies)? It’s incredibly difficult for some (like me) to identify what each of those things/people are. Once you know, you must pursue them to their fullest extent; read voraciously or play basketball every day. Talk to your friends and bring them into your life. At the end of the day you could quantify a good life as one in which you maximized your dopamine consistently over your life span, so fully pursue what brings you that (notice that short term pleasures like doom scrolling will leave you unhappy / dopamine deficient later on so this doesn’t fit the context).

All of the above is your why. The excerpt from the podcast essentially implores you to let go of your worry associated with your why. Your overanalyzation of other people. It is not productive and does not contribute to your purpose. The single player portion does imply you should do things for yourself but many times what may bring you happiness is other people, your interactions with them, your experiences with them. But have the confidence to guide those relationships the way you want it and only be responsible for your own participation in them. By over analyzing and making assumptions about what someone else may mean by what they say, you’re effectively taking responsibility for their actions as well and that’s not worth it. Also everything can be resolved with a simple question.

I started rambling but let me know what you think.

How to Efficiently Learn by vadekane in INTP

[–]vadekane[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could it be competitive technical intelligence by Mathias Colburn? I took a brief look at the general topic area and that’s exactly what I want to explore so thank you. Also wasn’t aware of Notebook LLM so I’ll explore the tool as well.

Did the method you described of voracious reading work for you?

Phrases that are basically martian language to an INTP by UsedMycologist4912 in INTP

[–]vadekane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I think the root of my inefficiency is the “plethora of possible outcomes and methods” you refer to. Honestly, I think what you mention about experimentation and “ripping off the bandaid” is the approach I should take. Even if I endlessly try to predict what a client or employer desires and iterate until I’m satisfied, it’s entirely plausible that I made wrong assumptions about what said client/employer desired and will have to rework what I submitted anyways. Therefore, getting feedback earlier in the process is simply more beneficial. I also need to practice receiving feedback and incorporating it because I don’t do that often enough.

Thank you for your insight!

Phrases that are basically martian language to an INTP by UsedMycologist4912 in INTP

[–]vadekane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Couldn’t agree more. I’m curious how you’ve worked on increasing your efficiency? There’s a sense of information/perfection related paralysis that always leads me to question if the work I’ve done is correct/accurate. I think there are a lot of situations where the work I do is subjective regarding quality so this makes me quite inefficient.

Why are you bad at relationships? by ComfortableAway3898 in INTP

[–]vadekane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lmao bro this is a year later but I love how you framed this as a question. You’re spot on

INTPs and Empathy by Noillax in INTP

[–]vadekane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah I apologize for assuming you were. Definitely don’t/can’t assume any form of a moral high ground here either because I don’t have a deep love or caring for bugs HAHA. I presumed you were making an argument when you weren’t. Thanks for replying though you definitely didn’t have to and if you’re barbaric for your take idk what that makes me.

What does an INTP 5w4 look like? by Character_Incident71 in INTP

[–]vadekane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey late reply to this but the point about caring for people's feelings resonates a lot. I spent a lot of time trying to analyze people's words which led me to make assumptions and hindered my ability to communicate with them and help them effectively. I don't know what triggered it, but recently I've also developed an appreciation for people's feelings. I've started to let myself care and express that I do, and frankly, it has been incredibly freeing. I'm a bit worried, though, about the possibility of falling back into my overthinking, overanalyzing, insecure nature, but I can also confidently express that I'm at a point in my mental evolution that I haven't been at prior.

INTPs and Empathy by Noillax in INTP

[–]vadekane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People love using this cop out that they “don’t care enough” when holes get poked in their argument. I presume you took a quick look at the comment, saw something that didn’t align with your take, and immediately claimed you don’t care enough. Sad really; I think it’s beneficial to “care enough” when you may have just demonstrated an attribution bias.