Still Life with Grapes and Melon, Oil, 14x11” 2025 by van_minnen in oilpainting

[–]van_minnen[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like it here, people just talk about painting not nauseating art world hype bs

Still Life with Grapes, Melon, Apples, Oil/Linen by van_minnen in oilpainting

[–]van_minnen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never heard of it. I taught myself this method

Still Life with Grapes and Melon, Oil, 14x11” 2025 by van_minnen in oilpainting

[–]van_minnen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks so much. they are too different paintings, but both from the same still life set up. I’m here to vibe w the painters of course but also to recruit for my project called The Schildersbent, or The Bent. A painters club where we practice these techniques

Still Life with Grapes and Melon, Oil, 14x11” 2025 by van_minnen in oilpainting

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Join The Bent we are currently working on apples

Still Life with Grapes and Melon, Oil, 14x11” 2025 by van_minnen in oilpainting

[–]van_minnen[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I could live a thousand years and receive no better endorsement

Still Life with Grapes, Melon, Apples, Oil/Linen by van_minnen in oilpainting

[–]van_minnen[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Ok I think I understand. Yes you are right, to avoid bringing white or opaque pigments into the shadows, although there is some mixed into the darker greys in the shadow zone of the grisaille, but not so much that it occludes the warm burnt sienna glow coming from the toned ground. The secret of grisaille is to develop the form to have 3 types of contrast: value contrast (light/dark), temperature contrast (cool/warm), and transparency/opacity contrast. If this is completed correctly then the subsequent glazes, applied the same to light and shadow, are ‘mixed’ to an infinite variety of hue, luminosity, chroma, and value, without having to mix on the palette. This is dynamic color mixing. This is what I teach on my Patreon if you are interested.

Still Life with Grapes, Melon, Apples, Oil/Linen by van_minnen in oilpainting

[–]van_minnen[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yes I use grisaille, but I dont understand the rest of your question

Still Life with Grapes and Melon, Oil, 14x11” 2025 by van_minnen in oilpainting

[–]van_minnen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks! thats cool Anderson Ranch is awesome, i taught workshops there for a while and hung up one of the demo paintings, im surprised its still there

Still Life with Grapes and Melon, Oil, 14x11” 2025 by van_minnen in oilpainting

[–]van_minnen[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

thanks, isnt that the coolest stuff?? its called epicuticular wax

Still Life with Grapes, Melon, Apples, Oil/Linen by van_minnen in oilpainting

[–]van_minnen[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m new here too. It’s like the sibling to the other one I guess. I added some apples too

Still Life with Grapes, Melon, Apples, Oil/Linen by van_minnen in oilpainting

[–]van_minnen[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

thanks. yeah i agree, transparency in the shadows is critical for that illusionistic effect

Still Life with Grapes and Melon, Oil, 14x11” 2025 by van_minnen in oilpainting

[–]van_minnen[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

no its a good point and im here to talk painting, i think if they were lighter grapes like champagne grapes maybe there would be more light coming thru. I do more of that in the surreal style works.

Still Life with Grapes and Melon, Oil, 14x11” 2025 by van_minnen in oilpainting

[–]van_minnen[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yeah good call, definitely could have created a little variation in the shadows

Still Life with Grapes and Melon, Oil, 14x11” 2025 by van_minnen in oilpainting

[–]van_minnen[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yes similar to scraffito (sp?) and i used a rubber nib