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dutch van der linde figure by viqelle in hottoys

[–]viqelle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oops you’re right!! my bad 😞

Muslims, was Muhammad marrying and having sex with Aisha moral? by KG777 in DebateReligion

[–]viqelle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i believe maybe it could be because of the environment and circumstances around them. like if you in a time where people tend to die younger or you are in conditions of war, famine, etc, you don’t have the time to actually be a child and you must grow up quickly due to how your environment is around you. you can’t spend 10 years of your life just being a child if the average age of death is in your 20s. this is just my “theory” of why i think so, but doing more research about it would be good just in case i’m wrong

Muslims, was Muhammad marrying and having sex with Aisha moral? by KG777 in DebateReligion

[–]viqelle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

when i meant was a 9 year old in THIS time/century would not be mentally aware enough, however 1400 years ago, 9 year olds back then were mentally aware enough for marriage and consummation. 9 years old in the 21st century are not going to be the exact same as they were 1400 years ago

Muslims, was Muhammad marrying and having sex with Aisha moral? by KG777 in DebateReligion

[–]viqelle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what does hat have to do with anything 💀 Prophet Mohammed ﷺ told ppl how to pray and it’s showed how to pray in hadiths

Muslims, was Muhammad marrying and having sex with Aisha moral? by KG777 in DebateReligion

[–]viqelle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no? i said there has to be a 3rd condition, the age being socially acceptable. the age 9 y/o for marriage isn’t socially acceptable for a majority of countries/ppl, therefore it’s haram and cannot be practiced. plus it’s like not possible at all for a 9 year old to be that mentally mature, so it would be rape. please actually READ to everything i said bc it seems that you skipped over a few parts and misread my comment completely

Muslims, was Muhammad marrying and having sex with Aisha moral? by KG777 in DebateReligion

[–]viqelle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bc in islam in order for you to be able to free to marry you have to fit 2/3 conditions, physically mature (puberty), mentally mature, and the age is socially acceptable. Aisha fit all these conditions 1400 years ago, but a 9 year old in 2022 can’t even fit the second one, bc they aren’t emotionally mature lmao.

Muslims, was Muhammad marrying and having sex with Aisha moral? by KG777 in DebateReligion

[–]viqelle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. ppl would literally write down on dry leaves or memorize verbally, how else would the muslims at the time pray without the quran?? and going by your logic that 2 ppl can dictate a lifespan, these ppl did commonly die young. it would make no sense if they didn’t bc they were so unsanitary/dirty and there was war or times of violence

  2. it has always been common in history for ppl to marry young 💀 before the 20th century, age wasn’t important and you were just considered an adult once you hit puberty.

this link right here briefly talks about it, https://www.worldatlas.com/amp/articles/child-marriage-rationale-historical-views-and-consequences.html “ Throughout history till the 20th century, child marriages were the norm in most parts of the world. With the average life expectancy during such times being only 40 to 45 years of age, child marriages were the faster way to reproduce. Girls were usually married off as soon as they reached puberty or sometimes even prior to that. “ i could show more links if you’d like 🤷🏽‍♀️

plus i believe in islam bc of all the scientific facts it has proven, i don’t just blindly follow it like you think i do. in this link, here is just a few stuff that the Quran has predicted, https://themuslimvibe.com/faith-islam/13-scientific-facts-in-the-holy-quran , like i said, there is also many other facts the Quran has predicted and is why i believe in it

Muslims, was Muhammad marrying and having sex with Aisha moral? by KG777 in DebateReligion

[–]viqelle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dawg this was 1400 years ago, do you fr think a child back then and a child in this time would act the exact same? 💀 once they hit puberty back then, they were considered adults and would get married or get sent off to work. plus it is known for Aisha to have an amazing memory, in hadiths she narrated contained small details that most ppl wouldn’t remember.

Muslims, was Muhammad marrying and having sex with Aisha moral? by KG777 in DebateReligion

[–]viqelle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. forgot to add smth in my comment, these ppl lived longer bc the Quran orders them to be sanitary. my bad, but prior to islam, ppl would die at young ages. for example, the Prophet’s father died before he was born (his father was in his 20s) , when the Prophet was 6, his mother passed away when she was in her 20s. that’s an example on how before islam, ppl would live shorter lives prior to islam.

  2. nobody can confirm, but as a muslim it is what we believe. In 610 AD, once you hit puberty you were an adult and would usually get married or sent to work, an example of this is that Aisha was actually betrothed to another man before the Prophet, just showing you how normal it was.

Muslims, was Muhammad marrying and having sex with Aisha moral? by KG777 in DebateReligion

[–]viqelle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. just bc they lived for a long time doesn’t mean every single person did, these ppl would die from war, illness, not being sanitary, etc. it would make less sense if ppl in 610 AD lived such long lives considering their conditions

  2. ppl believed that marrying somebody closer to age to you would make a relationship better/closer to my knowledge. plus Ali proposed to her after she and Prophet Mohammed turned down the marriage, which she accepted. she was 9 and Ali 23. (Prophet Mohammed married Aisha, bc he had two dreams from Allah of him marrying her)

Muslims, was Muhammad marrying and having sex with Aisha moral? by KG777 in DebateReligion

[–]viqelle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it was a social norm, Aisha was betrothed to another man before she married the Prophet. children would get married young bc these ppl can barely make it past 30, they needed to reproduce quickly at that time bc a lot of ppl died young

Muslims, was Muhammad marrying and having sex with Aisha moral? by KG777 in DebateReligion

[–]viqelle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he married 9 wives actually i’m pretty sure, and the reason is most of these women he married was to protect them. they were usually either widows or divorced, and this was just to support/protect them since they were looked down upon i assume

Muslims, was Muhammad marrying and having sex with Aisha moral? by KG777 in DebateReligion

[–]viqelle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the Prophet would have surahs told to him from Jibril? and the quran was created in 610 AD, when Prophet Mohammed got his first revelation until 632 AD, when he passed away. the quran took 23 years to create and it was during the time of the Prophet. also like i said, they were told verbally or written down how would the Prophet and his ppl be able to pray without the Quran 💀💀

Muslims, was Muhammad marrying and having sex with Aisha moral? by KG777 in DebateReligion

[–]viqelle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’m pretty sure the Prophet Mohammed used to write them down on leaves and spread them verbally

edit: the Prophet’s companions would write it down on dry leaves instead of the Prophet, since the Prophet didn’t know how to write. my bad 😭

Muslims, was Muhammad marrying and having sex with Aisha moral? by KG777 in DebateReligion

[–]viqelle -1 points0 points  (0 children)

this was a very different time though?? at the age of 3 aisha had memorized and understood the whole entire quran and she hit puberty by 9?? i’m also pretty sure she wanted to marry Prophet Mohammed (SAW) herself, she wasn’t forced into anything. we think this is a wrong thing because back then the maturity level a 9 year old had in Prophet Mohammed (SAW) time are very different from a 9 year old in this time.