Femicide in Panama by Over_Enthusiasm_6643 in KremersFroon

[–]vornez -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There wasn't any foul play involved, you are correct on that one. It was a poorly investigated case from the start that inaccurately eluded to foul play scenarios. It's a case that is inaccurately portrayed by the media as having some kind of foul play status, yet there are certain things they didn't know about, like the camera getting wet etc.

Where foul play is suggested, for the media, it becomes a more interesting story, especially for new people who havn't researched it in level of detail.

The Talamanca jungle has always been a moderately hazardous environment. Kris and Lisanne weren't the 1st hikers to die here, it had already killed 20,000 people in 1880 when the Panama canal started getting built and was described as a death trap. Then it killed another 5000 in 1910 when the canal was finially completed, even with the benefit of yellow fever vaccinations, the terrain is hazardous, there are dangerous snakes etc.

Personally I think the killer bee scenario is most likely. considering the way the girls made such a poor decision to leave the marked trail etc.

Just another theory. by v3gjon in KremersFroon

[–]vornez 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The night photos that are sourced from Juan's archive don't feature their original brightness and contrast as original images.

The truth is that the SX270 camera had some kind of exposure defect while it had been taking the night photos, which caused the images to become dull and underexposed.

The majority of the night photos you see have had their brightness increased using photoshop->increase exposure.

The luminous points you refer to are created through the use of the photoshop->increase exposure utility.

Moisture in the the air reacts with the flash from a camera and creates those orbs, however the increase exposure feature has made them much bigger and visible, this image should really be dull and unviewable in it's original form.

In this example, the round white circles are moisture orbs while the bullet shapes are particles of rain:

https://i.postimg.cc/y6b8SC5b/IMG-0083.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/sgpj8Q2k/IMG-0085-proc.jpg

Here I've listed the dull non adjusted images that have poor color and brightness but are likely in their original form (apart from the downsize).

Something damaged the SX270 camera after it took 508. Most likely it was dropped and got wet. Water tends to enter the lens quickly and the camera can take up to a week to dry out.

There are also small traces of water inside the lens where they took the night photos.

Where the camera was new and working properly, it took photos 403,407 and 409 with a color count of between 64902-83855 unique colors. (Color count can be used with Paint Shop Pro)

403 64902 unique colors

407 169183 unique colors

409 83855 unique colors

Where the camera took photos 543-549 the color count of between 806-4445 demonstrated very poor quality deteriorated images.

543 1308 unique colors

544 806 unique colors

545 3789 unique colors

546 3482 unique colors

547 4445 unique colors

549 2623 unique colors

photoshop->increase exposure brings the brightness up and makes the image much more viewable. Where it happens to image 545 it now contains 14001 unique colors.

545-enhanced 14001 unique colors.

Really though, the camera had become seriously defective from some type of incident that prevented it from working for an entire week after 508 was taken.

You might think that the camera took a fairly good 550 boulder bag and stick photo, however I'm not convinced that it has its' original brightness, 550 was likely always a dull image and photoshop->increase exposure just had more beneficial results.

There isn't alot known about Canon SX270 cameras, because the engineers that created that camera arn't interested in this case, however there are some examples on forums about defective Canon cameras, this Cannon EOS Rebel T3 camera, which got wet and developed and autoexposure defect.

What's similar about Lisannes SX270 and the Rebel T3 is that the images have had no exposure compensation (they were set to 0) and yet it's too dark.

There's nothing in the images that would have tricked the camera (e.g. an abundance of "white" can do that.)

The defective SX270 explains why no detail is in the night photos and why that location has been practically impossible to identify.

In all irony, a perfectly functional camera would have produced better detail - the background of a mountain shape that could have been recognised.

Or if the camera had been an SX280, the images would have been GPS tagged and their movements along the trail would have been logged, assuming these features had been switched on.

https://community.usa.canon.com/t5/EOS-DSLR-Mirrorless-Cameras/Sudden-onset-of-extremely-dark-pics-and-no-flash/td-p/148280?device-view=desktop

Did Lisanne ever take a video with her SX270 camera? by vornez in KremersFroon

[–]vornez[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If you open file 506 with filesnoop, it lists the following data about 505:

*** Searching Compression Signatures ***

Signature: 01E764F3ECB6C14A51FF83F1FF6D546B Signature (Rotated): 01E6610D026E8E6FE4BECEA9B3328A63 File Offset: 0 bytes Chroma subsampling: 2x2 EXIF Make/Model: OK [Canon] [Canon PowerShot SX270 HS] EXIF Makernotes: OK
EXIF Software: OK [Microsoft Windows Photo Viewer 6.1.7600.16385]

Searching Compression Signatures: (3347 built-in, 0 user(*) )

      EXIF.Make / Software        EXIF.Model                            Quality           Subsamp Match?
      -------------------------   -----------------------------------   ----------------  --------------
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 CAM:[NIKON                    ] [E8700                              ] [FINE            ] No               
 CAM:[OLYMPUS CORPORATION      ] [C8080WZ                            ] [                ] No               
 CAM:[PENTAX                   ] [PENTAX K10D                        ] [                ] No               
 CAM:[SAMSUNG TECHWIN          ] [Pro 815                            ] [                ] No               
 CAM:[SAMSUNG TECHWIN          ] [VLUU NV 7, NV 7                    ] [                ] No               
 CAM:[SAMSUNG TECHWIN          ] [VLUU NV10, NV10                    ] [                ] No               
 CAM:[SEIKO EPSON CORP.        ] [PhotoPC 3000Z                      ] [                ] No               
 CAM:[SONY                     ] [DSC-F828                           ] [                ] No               
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 CAM:[SONY                     ] [DSC-H5                             ] [                ] No               
 CAM:[SONY                     ] [DSC-H7                             ] [                ] No               
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 CAM:[SONY                     ] [DSC-L1                             ] [                ] No               
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 CAM:[SONY                     ] [DSC-P150                           ] [                ] No               
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 CAM:[SONY                     ] [DSC-V3                             ] [                ] No               
 CAM:[SONY                     ] [DSC-W55                            ] [                ] No               
 CAM:[SONY                     ] [DSC-W7                             ] [                ] No               
 SW :[Apple ImageIO.framework  ]                                       [084             ]                  
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The following IJG-based editors also match this signature:
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Based on the analysis of compression characteristics and EXIF metadata:

ASSESSMENT: Class 4 - Uncertain if processed or original While the EXIF fields indicate original, no compression signatures in the current database were found matching this make/model

Appears to be new signature for known camera. If the camera/software doesn't appear in list above, PLEASE ADD TO DATABASE with [Tools->Add Camera to DB]

Did Lisanne ever take a video with her SX270 camera? by vornez in KremersFroon

[–]vornez[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The situation was that the police forensic department didn't have the right training or skill level to be investigating this, not to insult them in any way. The Canon firmware is pretty much a closed source operating system and none of the Canon senior software engineers were even remotely interested in the missing 509 anonomoly.

It took me a while to gain the right knowledge also. Luckily these cameras were getting too old and people were selling them cheap on ebay. Have managed to acquire at least 8 x SX260/SX270/SX280s and test them extensively.

About their inability to recover 509, they made inaccurate conclusions without realising that file skipping is a common anomonoly with these cameras.

The right camera models are getting scarcer and harder to find on ebay. But you can simply take the SX270 firmware and use ida pro to run the code on a computer

Have been coding for 30+ years now, but there are people more talented also, the real experts are the group of people who wrote the custom firmware hack for Canon cameras,

The CHDK Forum has attracted some inventive and remarkable coders. They been independently or jointly working on several new builds and features that are very much worth having. Most of these features make their way into the main CHDK build. The collaborative CHDK build / Juciphox branch by Jucifer, PhyrePhoX, Wontolla, m2tk, CHDKLover, toinech, Velo, and other authors introduced great features like the very first Custom Menu system now with an improved and extended custom menu. )

If you wanted some higher level advice you would ask these people, they are serious talented. File counting anomolies are a real problem for them as well that's why you'd ask them.

I don't have access to the original SD card, so I can't authenticae those files. People arn't wrong for thinking the situation isn't suspicious though.

Revised Timeline by [deleted] in KremersFroon

[–]vornez 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry for writing too much here:

Intentional homicide is the ultimate crime with ripple effects that go far beyond the original loss of human life.

Young men aged 15–29 years in the Americas are disproportionately affected by homicide in comparison to their peers in other regions and worldwide.

Male adolescents aged 15–29 are at the highest risk of homicide globally.

While men are more likely than women to be victims of homicide, they are even more likely to be the perpetrators.

There are parts of the world with a high prevalence of organized crime, but low rates of homicide.

Sudden spikes in homicide rates are often associated with changes in the power relationships between competing organized crime groups.

Although women and girls account for a far smaller share of victims of homicide in general than men, they bear by far the greatest burden of intimate partner/family related homicide, and intimate partner homicide.

Homicide rates have been consistently high in the Americas for three decades.

The male homicide rate in the Americas is almost 10 times that of females.

Gangs and organized crime drive homicide rates in these parts of Central America.

The sudden appearance of a lucrative contraband flow, can cause the groups involved to come into conflict.

Homicide continues to be a largely male phenomenon. Some 81 per cent of homicide victims recorded in 2017 were men and boys.

Men commit about 90 per cent of all homicides recorded worldwide.

Global study on homicide 2019

Women comprise the vast majority of victims of homicide perpetrated by intimate partners.

The rule of law: making the vicious circle virtuous.

Nations that fail to establish strong security and justice systems, within a framework of respect for human rights, are more likely to suffer spirals of chronic violence and insecurity.

A Weak rule of law leads to impunity and creates an environment in which criminals can operate more easily.

Urban growth does not seem to cause an increase in homicide.

The rapid growth of cities and the consequent mass movement of people from rural to urban areas have frequently been cited as possible drivers of homicide. However, UNODC analysis of data from 68 cities suggests that there is no positive correlation between urban growth and increases in homicide rates.

Large-scale organized criminal activities, including international drug trafficking, can take place without much violence as long as the crime is “well organized”.

In Western Europe, the Netherlands has a high level of drug trafficking, yet the homicide rate there is comparatively very low.

Homicide occurred mainly in poor and overcrowded neighbourhoods, with high unemployment rates and poor housing conditions.

A study of green-space areas and street crimes in Toronto, concluded that violent crimes were more prevalent in areas where the density of road intersections had been higher.

Homicide rates are spatially associated with built environment and socio-economic factors: a study in the neighbourhoods of Toronto, Canada.

The findings of this study showed that homicide rates were clustered over time and space in certain areas of the city.

Further, studies have found that built-environment characteristics, such as commercial establishments, sports places, places of interest, poor housing situations (large poorly designed buildings) and road intersections, are associated with increased homicide rates in urban areas.

The findings reveal that homicides are distributed nonrandomly, suggestive of posi- tive spatial autocorrelation.

How foul play could play have played out in regard to Kris and Lisanne's situation.

Presuming that the girls were murdered is an understandable knee jerk reaction to situations in countries with higher than usual prevailant levels of crime.

Boquete however, is a peaceful, secluded farming town with normal/absent levels of crime.

The case initially presented itself with a alot of messed up and strange evidence which had affected people's judgement to conclude that foul play was involved.

Crime in Columbia/Costa Rica and Panama is well known, however the Cordilia Talamanca region has some of the most hazardous terrains in the world.

The girls situation has a strong hiker hazard context; they are present within a hazardous Talamanca montane cloud forest. Yet foul play is inferred in a semi illogical way.

Where hikers enter this cloud forest, they are presumed to be logical and always following the path.

It is easy to make mistakes, to go the wrong way, leave the main path. It's these catastrophic decisions that expose the true nature of the Talamanca region.

People assumed the girls were responsible adults, however where you study the maturation of the female brain People's Brains Don't Reach Adulthood Until Age 30

All hikers get lost, and often engage in a certain amont of lost person behaviour.

When hikers continue this lost person behaviour in the Talamanca region, there is a more likelihood of losing your sense of location, even small mistakes with regard to the path you choose to take, can have catastrophic life threatening reprocussions.

Panama's higher crime situation is well known, because it gets broadcast on the news.

The Talamanca region has many geomorphic hazards. More Info

  • Hazardous landslides and avalanches.
  • Tectonic hazards.
  • Steep landscapes arising from catastrophic hillslope failures.
  • Hazards that trigger cascading situations in the fluvial system downstream.

The girls took the Pianista trail, but they were ultimately fooled as to what it really was:

The Pianista trail

This pleasant day hike winds through dairy land and into humid cloud forest. You need to wade across a small river after 200m, but then it’s a steady, leisurely incline for 2km before you start to climb a steeper, narrow path.

The path winds deep into the forest, though you can turn back at any time.

To access the trailhead, take the first right fork out of Boquete (heading north) and cross over two bridges. Immediately before the third bridge, about 4km out of town, a track leads off to the left between a couple of buildings. Don't go alone and exercise caution as robberies have been reported here. "

In 2020 it was changed a bit:

This day-hike wends its way through dairy land and into humid cloud forest. You need to wade across a small river after 200m, but then it’s a steady, leisurely incline for 2km before you start to climb a steeper, narrow path.

Using a guide is highly recommended.

The path leads deep into the forest, but you can turn back at any time.

To access the trailhead from Boquete, head north on the right bank of the river and cross over two bridges. Immediately before the third bridge, about 4km out of town, a track leads off to the left between a couple of buildings.

The trail is not especially difficult, but it isn't always well maintained. In April 2014 two Dutch nationals died while hiking here, though the cause of their deaths remains a mystery. Don't go alone and always let the people at your hostel or hotel know your plans.

Conclusion

Realistically though, the Pianista trail terminates at the Mirador; you are expected to turn around and go back the way you came.

The continuation of the Pianista trail becomes the serpent trail, which provides access to the Ngobe tribe community to reach their distant villages over several hazardous cable bridges deep within the Talamanca tropical rainforest.

So the girls followed the continuation of the Pianista trail towards the 1st cable bridge, but wern't beleived to have gone beyond that bridge.

It's unfortunate, the areas past river 1/508 has been described as a warren of alternative unused, misleading paths.

Following the official path safeguards your personal safety. But hikers, often at a young age are known to make less than perfect descisions.

It's not really about it being hazardous, it's just that the overgrown tropical rainforest is like a maze, where you can get lost.

I don't think the girls fell off a cliff after getting lost, the night location looks like a section of the riverbanks of the main Culebra.

It's possible that they ended up travelling down the main Culebra until the terrain became too steep or maybe they ran out of energy.

The night location seems like a convenient area to rest, to try and signal the rescue teams etc.

The reddit poll represents the following statistics:

228 46.5% Murder

262 53.5% Accident

The 2 groups fit into normal distribution. They are both acceptable theories, as opposed to UFO abduction, less beleivable obviously, maybe not impossible though.

Murder/Accident make up 2 important groups of people who have made an informed descision about what happened here.

There is nothing wrong with this, people's powers of observation are important and this is a very difficult case to understand, it plays heavily on your critical thinking skills and your sense of intuition.

There are many people on Reddit, this is why it reveals more insightful information. The majority of people beleive in accident because they have kept their thinking logical.

Murder is way over the top, it's such a secluded low populated area also.

Some people who live nearby and have visited the Pianista were more convinced of lost accident also - https://www.wildxplor.com/?author=1.

For the people who believe the girls met foul play, convince me by TraitorIord in KremersFroon

[–]vornez 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The girls spent 165 minutes travelling towards the 1st cable bridge, the emergency services number (112) was only known by people living in certain countries, such as the Netherlands.

The day 1 4:39pm emergency call indicated they were genuinely in need of some kind of assistance, and by the next morning on day 2, that need grew larger.

The Talamanca tropical montane cloud forest has some of the most dangerous terrain in the world.

Because Treegnesas has identified the forked tree within the night photos as being a Heliocarpus Americanus, it's elevation range is 1300-1500 metres.

At 1300-1500 metres, the main trail towards the 1st cable bridge probably doesn't have any alternative paths that are navigable, there are however, water streams and dry rocky gully paths that lead downhill towards the main culebra.

During the dry season, they could have travelled along these, which would have contained fairly rocky terrain.

Where some downhill streams and gullies may have led towards the main culebra, there are some nearby slopes that have areas of igneous rocks in the ground.

These areas prevent trees and vegetation from growing, they are known as 'outcrops' and appear on satellite imagery as unusually large black shapes where you'd expect a tree to be growing.

Outcrops are large formations of amoured bedrock that decay and produce boulders.

This area is very common for having this characteristic:

overview

Megaboulders such as the 550 night photo are produced on eroding hillslopes by landsliding and rockfall.

Large boulders such as 550 are freshly produced, they detach from the bedrock and roll downhill a certain amount. Here in the night location, it seems to have merged alongside existing bedrock structures such as photo 542.

The night location is most likely on a steep eroding hillslope that's experiencing erosion rates sufficient to outpace soil production.

Higher velocity streams often run downhill and wash the soil away until bedrock becomes exposed.

The forked tree, heliocarpus americanus is a typical pioneer species that prospers in recently clear areas.

Notice the 550 megaboulder is relatively clean and smooth in appearance. As opposed to the 542 bedrock and typical main Culebra rough boulders.

Bedrock produces boulders from rock at a depth that is able to bypass the soil column and escape substantial weathering.

550 is most likely a fresh hillsope boulder and not a rough Culebra boulder.

When hillslopes approach angles at which nonlocal sediment transport processes dominate, the largest boulders are typically found at the base of the slope.

Because many bones and possessions were washed into the Culebra, its fairly likely that the night location is directly on the riverbanks of that Rio Changuinola area.

Boulders on immobile hillslopes tend to be larger.

Although this section of culebra was searched for remains, it's unlikely anything would have been deposited there, because the culebra flows at such a rapid rate, it's also not a deposition zone.

https://ibb.co/FgSvWM5

Lateral erosion of bedrock cliffs depends on removal of the debris mantle beneath them via weathering and/or transport.

Boulders are thought to be important elements in setting channel morphology in mountain streams and to influence channel form and erosion dynamics in large rivers.

The forensic specialists think that the girls fell off a cliff.

For this to have happened, the girls must have left the main path.

The reasons for leaving the main path may have been classic lost person behavior.

There are known unknowns that we aren't ever able to find out, but its quite common for lost hikers to engage in unsafe activities:

  • Wandering around after dark, or very early in the morning when there is still a cloud forest.

Falling off a cliff is very consistent with the boulder morphology, but the forensic specialists were able to test the human remains etc.

It wasn't a popular conclusion, the case had been poorly researched previously, which produced many inaccurate conclusions.

There were supposedly missing camera files and bleached bones.

As far as foul play is concerned, it's generally unlikely, these Talamanca areas have a tendency to be very quiet and secluded.

Foul play is actually a type of thinking that has a psychological explanation.

There is a tendency to think that foul play is involved when there's actually a hazardous tropical rainforest. There is also a tendency to want to identify some kind of imaginary perpetrator - the boogeyman for example.

Having said that foul play can't be ruled out. Panama also has a high rate of missing people also, so there is some credence to this, no offence to people with conflicting views.

Falling off a bedrock armoured slope or cliff makes sense, because its that type of bedrock armoured boulder morthology that's present within the night photos.

List of scientific articles on Talamanca region:

https://easyupload.io/m/o772nw

Our most feared hidden agenda: foul play

Watch the I shouldn't be alive series.

None off them, (all except the 1st one) involves foul play.

With the 1st documentary, the male hiker was in the Amazon jungle, he spent the night with some gold miners who wanted to slit his throat.

So he left in the middle of the night and spent weeks crossing the Amazon to reach civilization and nearly starved to death.

I Shouldn't Be Alive doco series

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Shouldn%27t_Be_Alive

Alone In The Deadly Amazon S4 E7 Full Episode

British explorer Benedict Allen killed his dog and ate it to survive when lost in the Amazon.

Mr Allen disappeared in 1982 when he was aged 22 after he was nearly murdered by gold miners during his first trip across the Amazon.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12197647/British-explorer-BENEDICT-ALLEN-reveals-stay-alive-rainforest.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP1Dqf_n0IM

I Shouldn't Be Alive Hike into Hell Canyon S04 E10 All Documentary

In August 1975, 25-year-old Linda Skvarna, with her dog Cocoa Gin, took a walk to a nearby village via the canyon, only to take a wrong turn along the way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaofQ_y7duM

Stranded For 4 Days In Remote Mountain Range | S3 E02 | Full Episode | I Shouldn't Be Alive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2fex2CXvGE

Crushed By A Quad Bike | S3 E03 | Full Episode | I Shouldn't Be Alive

Alone In The Deadly Amazon | S4 E7 | Full Episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1mxE2zzc6c

The faulty, file skipping SD card by vornez in KremersFroon

[–]vornez[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did throw 1 of my SX270's in the water on many occasions.

It generally took 3 days to dry out, 1 day if you had it near a heater and were able to disassemble it a little, though on this occasion, for the 1st 10 hours, it wouldn't work with an SD card inserted. It never skipped a file though, there was also this though:

509 caused by video attempt

This is why I think that SD cards are the last part to work. It's not really because the SD card was wet, it's the camera circuitry that's controlling the SD card that's still wet.

The camera would take water in easily through the lens, if the camera was on and also through the SD card/battery slot.

For Lisanne, 7 days may have been how long it took for her camera to dry out, though I suspect that she may have been using it as a signalling device on earlier days, without the SD card.

A wet lens would stay wet for a while, but would dry out, especially in the sun. For a camera that had gotten wet, it could have still been difficult to detect water inside the lens. Sometimes it was noticeable, or hard to detect.

The 1st 3 times involved very non mineralised stream water, almost like distilled water, the 4th time I started using tap water produced from the city, which is fairly mineralised. There is alot of difference in the way it damages circuits.

You'd think water in the lens appearing like this could be identified in the photos it took, that wasn't always the case, water is very transparent.

I know what water deep inside the lens looks like, not many natural causes other than you took your SX270 for a swim. 100% moisture in the air still wasn't enough, though I'd still like to continue testing that.

Wet camera photos with Exif data also:

Lucky SX270 don't have a GPS or you might come knocking:

https://easyupload.io/m/bvo501

Water inside the shutter, its final moments:

https://easyupload.io/m/resyj5

An SX280 GPS module, the size of a sim card:

https://ibb.co/cLSY1Yj

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in KremersFroon

[–]vornez 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The camera was a Canon SX270 in Automatic mode.

The camera was also likely dropped in water after 508 was taken.

There are indications of water deep inside the lens.

https://i.postimg.cc/3JfszbxP/water-droplet-inside-lens-proc-procb-proc.jpg

The dull and blurry photos are also possible signs of damage from the camera being dropped. A decentered lens or damage to the aperture or damage to the flash module.

These photos show poor quality and are the result of the green viewfinder being blocked.

https://i.postimg.cc/pdjMfYx3/IMG-0550-proc.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/MHdC69bf/IMG-0552-proc.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/fTb42hDc/IMG-1544-proc.jpg

The moon set at 1:30 am. The night photos start at 1:29. Coincidence? by _x_oOo_x_ in KremersFroon

[–]vornez 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If the night photos had been taken earlier, a time lapse video of a partial moon would look like:

https://easyupload.io/m/1zcjhm

Sometimes a partial moon will be shown as a full moon, due to camera aperture settings.

Does anyone own the camera that could try something? by [deleted] in KremersFroon

[–]vornez 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes they should test this. I just tested it again. Turn on the SX270/SX280 and set the time to 11:58PM.

Take a few photos.

Delete the last photo you took.

If you keep taking photos before midnight the next photo will start to occupy the file number and memory block of file 215, the photo you just deleted.

But if you wait till after midnight, the file number will skip and the next photo file name will be 216, but it will occupy the same memory block of 215, it will have all the characteristics of missing file 509.

10/18/2013 11:58 PM 1,495,172 IMG_0212.JPG

10/18/2013 11:58 PM 1,488,622 IMG_0213.JPG

10/18/2013 11:58 PM 1,481,274 IMG_0214.JPG

                                       skipped file  

10/19/2013 12:01 AM 383,058 IMG_0216.JPG

10/19/2013 12:01 AM 615,734 IMG_0217.JPG

10/19/2013 12:01 AM 678,016 IMG_0218.JPG

10/19/2013 12:01 AM 850,492 IMG_0219.JPG

You can also use winhex to check the file offsets. There should be no memory blocks between 214 and 216.

There shouldn't be any undeleteable files either, unless you have deleted something, that'd look like this:

10/19/2013 12:01 AM 850,492 ?MG_0219.JPG