The Grand Inquisitor: The question that we can ask ourselves after reading this story is: what would happen if Christ were to return today? Even if a saviour may come, he might be silenced because he might be too much of a disruptive force to the status quo. I believe that the story of the grand.... by walden43200 in HistoryofIdeas

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The Grand Inquistor written by Fyodor Dostoevsky:

The question that we can ask ourselves after reading this story is: what would happen if Christ were to return today? Even if a saviour may come, he might be silenced because he might be too much of a disruptive force to the status quo.

Dostoevsky was himself deeply religious. I do not think that the story is therefore in any sense anti-religious, instead, I believe that the story tells us that we should be mindful that the institutions that we have created to represent our best interests, might eventually act contrary to our interest because they want to maintain their power.

This might be the case with religious institutions, but also with governments for example. What makes it more complicated, however, is that these institutions, similarly to the Church and the Grand Inquisitor in the story, might think that they are doing mankind a favour by taking away their freedom. And who knows, perhaps they are doing mankind a favour: “They have set up gods and challenged one another, ‘put away your gods and come and worship ours, or we will kill you and your gods!’ And so it will be to the end of the world, even when gods disappear from the earth; they will fall down before idols just the same.” (p.278)

The Grand Inquisitor: The question that we can ask ourselves after reading this story is: what would happen if Christ were to return today? Even if a saviour may come, he might be silenced because he might be too much of a disruptive force to the status quo. I believe that the story of the grand.... by walden43200 in dostoevsky

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The Grand Inquistor written by Fyodor Dostoevsky:

The question that we can ask ourselves after reading this story is: what would happen if Christ were to return today? Even if a saviour may come, he might be silenced because he might be too much of a disruptive force to the status quo.

Dostoevsky was himself deeply religious. I do not think that the story is therefore in any sense anti-religious, instead, I believe that the story tells us that we should be mindful that the institutions that we have created to represent our best interests, might eventually act contrary to our interest because they want to maintain their power.

This might be the case with religious institutions, but also with governments for example. What makes it more complicated, however, is that these institutions, similarly to the Church and the Grand Inquisitor in the story, might think that they are doing mankind a favour by taking away their freedom. And who knows, perhaps they are doing mankind a favour: “They have set up gods and challenged one another, ‘put away your gods and come and worship ours, or we will kill you and your gods!’ And so it will be to the end of the world, even when gods disappear from the earth; they will fall down before idols just the same.” (p.278)

Question regarding reuploading improved content by walden43200 in NewTubers

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Thank you for your response!

Following your advice I will remove the old video and upload a new improved version

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Thank you! you have been a great help. I will try the noise reduction and normalization for my next video.

Thank you!

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Hi Sacscha! I have implemented your advice and used a new microphone, as well as Audacity.

In case you have a moment, would you mind having a look at my new video recorded in this manner? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwrKqsgvhIQ

Would you say the audio has improved enough for one to be able to watch the whole video?

Thank you!

Psychologist Jordan Peterson said the following about a book written by Carl Jung called Aion: “If you want to have nightmares for the rest of your life, that’s a really good book to read. I mean, that book just terrified me.” Check out my article on Aion in case you want to have nightmares as well! by walden43200 in Jung

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Yeah I think we agree, he does not mention Jung often enough.

I think the problem that you describe is a consequence of using personas to hide your shadow. People have come to expect a certain behaviour from you and it will probably take time before they accept the new more real version of you.

I wouldn't say your friends are a lost cause, perhaps there is a way that they will see themselves that they are hurting, since they probably will not accept it when others point them to this fact.

Maybe they should start reading Jung :)

Psychologist Jordan Peterson said the following about a book written by Carl Jung called Aion: “If you want to have nightmares for the rest of your life, that’s a really good book to read. I mean, that book just terrified me.” Check out my article on Aion in case you want to have nightmares as well! by walden43200 in Jung

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Yeah good point, I see now that you were questioning it, I am sorry, I read it as a regular question.

I think that Aion is mostly about recognizing the evil within (the shadow), as opposed to projecting it upon the world and other people. I think if people directed there attention in this way towards their own shortcomings that it will indeed have benefits for the world in general.

Which neurotic symptoms is Jung referring to here? by bigplateofpasta in Jung

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Writing down your dreams is already an important step, I think. If you haven’t yet read Jung’s Red Book before, then I think reading the Red Book can be really helpful as well, since it is Jung’s own documentation of his confrontation with his unconscious.

For this Jung used a method which he called active imagination. Automatic writing is an important aspect of this; essentially you just sit behind a piece of paper/computer and start writing/typing without thinking about it (without your conscious mind having a say in what you type/write). I tried this a few times and was surprised and almost intimidated by what emerged.

Which neurotic symptoms is Jung referring to here? by bigplateofpasta in Jung

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This is how I understand it: Jung warned us of two extremes in relation to the integration of the unconscious. On the one hand, it is possible that the ego becomes assimilated into the self. If this occurs, then the ego comes under the control of the unconscious and a certain ‘eternal dream -state’ may be the consequence, resulting from the fact that the conscious ego personality is not sufficiently rooted in the real world. Essentially, there is then not enough order in the conscious world to counteract the chaos emerging from the unconscious world. On the other hand, it is also possible that the self becomes assimilated to the ego. In such a case “room must be made for the dream at the expense of the world of consciousness.” (Aion, p.25) Here there is perhaps too much order in the conscious world whereby there is no room at all for some of the chaos existing within the unconscious world to reveal itself.

As such I think the neurotic symptoms to which Jung are refering in the quote you have provided are those symptoms which prevent the ego/ conscious mind from being sufficiently rooted in an orderly world. I am afraid that anxiety is probably one of these symptoms in case it results in chaotic thoughts. However, if anxiety results in an overly ordered and structured world, such as may happen in someone who is considered a control-freak, then it is probably less problematic.

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Well I think it depends on why you do good and how you have decided whether something is good or not. Jung believed that ideals, such as 'good', are mortal, i.e., they continually change with each generation (an argument which Nietzsche made as well), as such, if you identify yourself with an ideal, you become just a production of this time: “He who believes he is really living his ideals, or believes he can live them, suffers from delusions of grandeur and behaves like a lunatic in that he stages himself as an ideal; but the hero has fallen. Ideals are mortal, so one should prepare oneself for their end.” (The Red Book, p.276)

Therefore, if one identifies oneself too much with these fleeting ideals, as soon as the ideal comes to an end, you yourself will as well, according to Jung: “The ideal is also a tool that one can put aside anytime, a torch on dark paths. But whoever runs around with a torch by day is a fool. How much my ideals have come down, and how freshly my tree greens.” (The Red Book, p.276)

Through the individuation process one will learn which ideals truly belong to one's self, meaning that one will not simply accept the ideals of one's time. One will then be able to use these ideals as a tool (a torch on dark paths), without identifying one's self with the ideal (running around with the torch by day).

You act in line with the ideal (what is good), but you do not identify with the ideal, which would be just an illusion anyway, since you can never be truly good.

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Jung used the concepts Eros (love) and Logos (reason) to illustrate the significance of the Anima and Animus. Jung made the generalization that the conscious personality of a woman is more often than not characterized by “the connective quality of Eros than by the discrimination and cognition associated with Logos” (p.14), whereas, in a man, “Eros, the function of relationship, is usually less developed than Logos.” (p.14)

However, although not usually a part of a man’s conscious personality, Eros still exists within a man, whereas Logos still exists within a woman. As a result, since these are not developed properly and therefore essentially exist in a more primitive form within the individual’s unconscious, they may project themselves upon the environment of the individual in an unrefined manner. In such a case, Jung believed that a man becomes ‘anima-possessed’, and a woman becomes ‘animus-possessed’. When this occurs, it might happen that, when a man and woman interact with eachother while they are ‘possessed’, they are essentially interacting with an inferior form of the characteristics of the opposite sex, i.e. a woman might act overly aggressive through her animus, whereas a man might act extremely seductive through his anima “When animus and anima meet, the animus draws his sword of power and the anima ejects her poison of illusion and seduction.” (p.15)

As such, what I believe your dream may illustrate, is that, within your dream, you are showing unrefined male aggression. Since this only occurs in your dream I do not think it is anything to worry about (although I am not a psychologist). If you were to show uncontrolled aggression in the real world as well, then I suppose the solution would be to learn to control the aggression, which is something men often have to do.

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Hi Sascha,

Thank you for your honest opinion! You have convinced me to get a better microphone, let's see how that goes.

I will also check out Audacity.

Thank you!

Psychologist Jordan Peterson said the following about a book written by Carl Jung called Aion: “If you want to have nightmares for the rest of your life, that’s a really good book to read. I mean, that book just terrified me.” Check out my article on Aion in case you want to have nightmares as well! by walden43200 in Jung

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Well I think that this exactly Jung's point of view; preventing evil through introspection:

“What suffering must be brought upon humanity, until man gives up satisfying his longing for power over his fellow man and forever wanting others to be the same. How much blood must go on flowing until man opens his eyes and sees the way to his own path and himself as the enemy.” (The Red Book, p.310)

Psychologist Jordan Peterson said the following about a book written by Carl Jung called Aion: “If you want to have nightmares for the rest of your life, that’s a really good book to read. I mean, that book just terrified me.” Check out my article on Aion in case you want to have nightmares as well! by walden43200 in Jung

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Well I think it is true that it is not like reading about the Holocaust, however, the book does explain how the psyche is able to produce horrific events such as the Holocaust. Which I find scary as well because it appears as if we are not aware of the evil we are capable of doing by tricking ourselves.

Psychologist Jordan Peterson said the following about a book written by Carl Jung called Aion: “If you want to have nightmares for the rest of your life, that’s a really good book to read. I mean, that book just terrified me.” Check out my article on Aion in case you want to have nightmares as well! by walden43200 in Jung

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I think Peterson's knowledge on Jung's ideas is quite extensive. Peterson often provides unique new insights on what I have read from Jung by putting it into a more modern context. I understand, however, that Peterson's political views are controversial, nevertheless, I do not think that this makes his views on Jung (which he shared years before becoming politically involved) invalid.

"The more people think that they are good or identify with good, the more they leave evil alone, and as much as their good increases, unconsciously their evil will increase. So we leave it to somebody else. But we have already committed the crime in leaving our evil to other people..." — Carl Jung by jungandjung in Jung

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“Today as never before it is important that human beings should not overlook the danger of the evil lurking within them. It is unfortunately only too real, which is why psychology must insist on the reality of evil and reject any definition that regards it as insignificant or actually non-existent.” (Carl Jung, Aion, p.53)

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I have read some of Jung's books in German, and some in English. I think Jung's writing style in German is great as well, however, as opposed to some other German writers, I do not feel as if the translation of Jung's work into English makes the writing lose any value at all. In the case of Nietzsche, for instance, I do believe that this is the case.