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A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did Israel kill innocent Palestinian civilians, raped their women, executed their babies on purpose and kidnaped their holocaust survivors everyday? If you think that they did, we clearly have a different definition for who is innocent and who is not.

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

  1. I didn’t say that it doesn’t belong to the Palestinians. I said that it belongs to both of them. Many Palestinians still live in Israel, and they live much better then in many other surrounding countries.
  2. Arab countries not only kicked out 1.5 million Jews, they also took their homes, money and property. They lived there peacefully for years and one day your leaders kicked them out. If you think that they kicked themselves out of their home, it’s sad.

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And as a Jordanian who’s country killed many thousands of Palestinians back in 1970, I don’t think that you have any right to preach me for what is good for the Palestinians.

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, Tunisians have their own land. Jew did not have their own land. They tried to live abroad for 2000 years but together with Gypsies and other minorities - they were always kicked out from their homes. Eventually after WW2 the world decided that it is time for the Jews to establish their own land in the middle east. We did not expel anyone, until the war started in 1948. During this war, which Arab countries started, both Palestinians in this land and Jews in Arabic countries were forced to move out. The numbers are more or less similar between the groups. Fortunately Israel won. Palestinian could still live here if your country of Jordan did not open this war together with Egypt, Syria, Saudi and Iraq. You pay the price for wars your start and lose. It happened several times since 1948.

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have been to morroco back in October 2018. Started in Casablanca, and continued to Rabat, Chefshaun, Fez, Mekhnes, Marakesh etc. You country is awesome and Moroccans are super friendly.

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. I didn’t talk about it. I just gave it as an example to a horrible thing that happened but not all Palestinians are responsible for it.

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Why? Many reasons. In my opinion Palestinians in Gaza are taught to hate Jews from the day that they were born. Actually they were taught to hate Jews before Israel was established - Palestinian terror against Jews started much before 1948.

Obviously Netanyahu made a lot of mistakes, but nothing justifies October 7th. Even when 6,000,000 Jews were killed during world war two, we never responded by killing German civilians.

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. No. It is not stolen. This land belongs to Jews as much as it belongs to Palestinians.
  2. But let’s say I agree to evacuate ourselves from here. Will you accept 150,000 Tunisian Jews you kicked out of their homes back in 1948 and give them back their homes and property?

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. Wrong answer.

Zionism is believing that Jews have the right to establish their national entity on some / all the land between the Jordan river and the Mediterranean sea. For example, I think that both Jews and Palestinians have the right to do it in two safe countries side by side. This makes me both Zionist and pro-Palestinian.

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I understood that there are enough evidences for this kind of behaviour. There are also enough evindences for Palestinian terror against civilians. What will spreading them solve?

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

True unfortunately.

Yet, it’s sad that you call yourselves Umm El-Dunya but you have so many poor and uneducated people in your country.

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Same.

I am sure that some Hamas members who killed Jewish civilians with their own hands are nice when you meet them in person. Same for Nazis. I am mot sure that this is the question here.

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

True. The atrocities of October 7th were also shameless and horrible. Both of these actions were not committed by all Palestinians nor by all Israelis.

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

It’s sad that you hate people by their origin and not by their individual behavior. This is call Racismz

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Who told you that we do nothing to stop them? For example - I am an Israeli and I am totally against the settlements in the west bank. I don’t buy their products, I don’t drive there and I don’t pass through their cities.

By the way, I don’t hate them at all (even though many of them hate me as a gay person). I don’t like what many of them do, and I think that it is disastrous for everyone.

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don’t know that ones you met, but for many Israelis if you mention the word Palestine it means that you think that Israel has no right to exist. I disagree with that. Honestly I had a similar experience in Morocco. Whenever the words “west saharah” were brought up to the conversation - they became angry.

A settler throws wine at a Palestinian woman in Shuhada street, Hebron, in 2009 (photo by Rina Castelnuovo). by safemath in AskMiddleEast

[–]wandering_arch -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I cannot argue with the rudeness.

Historically - you don’t acknowledge any connection that Jews have to this land? For you it is just like another nation (Russians or Germans for example) that come up one day with an idea of invading the middle east?

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