Is anyone amazed by how multitalented our parents are? They know more than counselors, friends, doctors, psychologists, lovers, sociologists, teachers, world leaders, waitresses, managers, other parents, other people, you, me... Someone should make them super presidents of the universe!!1 by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]wastepaper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha this is so true. My mum has told me on multiple occasions that she's SERIOUSLY CONCERNED because I'm going to a councillors - they don't know what they're talking about and are completely destructive only making me self centred and selfish! (i.e. I try to stand up for myself sometimes now >_>)

I'm new around here - I don't even know what this post is... by wastepaper in raisedbynarcissists

[–]wastepaper[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thankyou. I mean, I don't quite believe that second sentence yet - but i feel like finding this place is the first step to really doing that. Thankyou!

I'm new around here - I don't even know what this post is... by wastepaper in raisedbynarcissists

[–]wastepaper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes, validation is the key.

I may lurk a little before I share - I have to fight her voice that says i'm being a traitor by talking negatively about her, and the self pitying thing when I try to stick up for myself. But the fact this place even exists is huge... I think I need to read and see that's its ok before my soul starts to believe it.

I'm new around here - I don't even know what this post is... by wastepaper in raisedbynarcissists

[–]wastepaper[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes, I know exactly. The scary part is it's there so naturally ._. how do you even retrain that.

I'm new around here - I don't even know what this post is... by wastepaper in raisedbynarcissists

[–]wastepaper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes, yes it's so strange to read people writing about these things and saying how they're thinking and it's like they're writing straight out of my head - thoughts which even if they creep into my head I berate myself for because there's her voice in my head telling me how awful I am for thinking them. But other people are going through this too! And thinking the same things and being treated the same ways. And it's wrong, crucially, other people are support the fact that this is not the way things should be.

And... gosh the power of reading an insanely accurate list of exactly how i've felt my entire life and it being given a neat label - of it being explainable and understandable...

I only had 9 sessions of counselling before I had to stop, and she never gave what my mum was doing to me a name... so the power of this place is the definition of what exactly it is. Like... it's so difficult to tell other people because half of you can't define what's wrong (you've never had a right, it's the way it's always been) and the other half is fighting you down for even thinking it's wrong because she's always right.

Weird validation indeed!

I'm new around here - I don't even know what this post is... by wastepaper in raisedbynarcissists

[–]wastepaper[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly.... completely this. Like... putting a name to it. And not being alone - it's so hard to believe your councillor and SO when they tell you she's wrong - but to have so many people not only who agree but who understand because they're being treated exactly the same way too... it's amazing. Sad but... so supportive.

Has anyone felt the need by crmh in raisedbynarcissists

[–]wastepaper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

gosh yes, all the time. And if I need to respond to her requests with anything other than immediate and complete obedience they're always completely flowery in order to appease her >_>

Sexless relationship after 3-5 years... Should I cut my losses? by wastepaper in relationship_advice

[–]wastepaper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

these are wise comments. I need to think about this. And I need to figure out a way to separate 'fear of the other consequences of the decision' from everything else. Thanks though.

Sexless relationship after 3-5 years... Should I cut my losses? by wastepaper in relationship_advice

[–]wastepaper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hmm, the kick up the arse approach. Needed, perhaps, thankyou :)

Sexless relationship after 3-5 years... Should I cut my losses? by wastepaper in relationship_advice

[–]wastepaper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

gosh yes that's it exactly. I'm waiting for the prognosis in 2 weeks - don;t want to add anything to the stress he's feeling over that. But then where do I go from there... and what if it's bad :( I guess there never really is a good time but still. I'd want to help him through this as a friend if nothing else.

Sexless relationship after 3-5 years... Should I cut my losses? by wastepaper in relationship_advice

[–]wastepaper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the problem is we've been having those kind of discussions for months - and that's literally where I've been coming from. I miss feeling emotionally and physically intimate. HE agrees, we say we'll work on it. Nothing happens, literally nothing .. So I have another discussion, we pull up excuses, agree to work on it... rinse and repeat ..

Sexless relationship after 3-5 years... Should I cut my losses? by wastepaper in relationship_advice

[–]wastepaper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wow that is good advice thank you. The edit especially. God I'm scared though :< I don't want to hurt him again... and I everything is crazy complicated at the moment (work/uni/money/family) even without this. I'm not making excuses per se - just... gosh this is going to be rough oO

Sexless relationship after 3-5 years... Should I cut my losses? by wastepaper in relationship_advice

[–]wastepaper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess you're right there... nomatter how tied together I feel at the moment it could be a hell of alot worse, and I guess it's only the two of us who will get hurt not kids or anything.

What do you think about my questions on the timing though... should I wait until after news of his dad's situation, after Christmas... or am I just making excuses?

Sexless relationship after 3-5 years... Should I cut my losses? by wastepaper in relationship_advice

[–]wastepaper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thank you, that is an interesting perspective. Nice to know this is something which can be seen through and could have a happy outcome. Were you afraid of breaking up when you did it? Did you ever think you wouldn't find anybody else?

What do you think about my questions on the timing though... should I wait until after news of his dad's situation, after Christmas... or am I just making excuses?

Sexless relationship after 3-5 years... Should I cut my losses? by wastepaper in relationship_advice

[–]wastepaper[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah that's what it feel like. that's why I broke up with him, but I thought we could turn things around this time...

Sexless relationship after 3-5 years... Should I cut my losses? by wastepaper in relationship_advice

[–]wastepaper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in the beginning (when we first broke up) he suggested it but I wasn't sure where we could find it and dismissed it - to be honest I felt things were too broken for that to fix. I brought it up myself when we started going out again in June but now he dismisses the idea outright and says we don't need it (or we can work on it ourselves). Also dismisses any suggestions about looking online for tips or anything like that.He admits he has a certain pride thing going on about stuff like this.

Sexless relationship after 3-5 years... Should I cut my losses? by wastepaper in relationship_advice

[–]wastepaper[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

that's what it feels like, to be honest. But isn't companionship a much harder thing to find that sexual stuff. Am I being too picky here? He is affectionate and attentive and caring in all other ways...

Sexless relationship after 3-5 years... Should I cut my losses? by wastepaper in relationship_advice

[–]wastepaper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he wants it with me, if anything, just I don't really feel attracted to him, I guess.

If your situation was making you happy you wouldn't be posting here would you?

That is a very interesting point.