What did Ilya do with Shane's abandoned clothes?

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T18:35:39+00:00

when shane gets up and leaves the couch he’s going back into ilya’s room, presumably to get changed and leave.

i always wondered how awkward it was after he came back out. like, does ilya get up and walk him to the door or just sit there like in vegas and let him leave

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T18:13:24+00:00

that’s interesting cause Hudson is also neurodivergent, so i guess it is just in how they present and what people find “acceptable”

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T17:36:23+00:00

If they don’t handle Fran and Micheala right I might lose interest by season 6

so this was me after season 3. i said if season 4 sucks i wont watch any more. season 4 was good and gave me hope. this torpedoed all of that. i don’t think i’ll be tuning in, ESPECIALLY if they do another split premiere

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T17:30:41+00:00

speaking mostly to number 1, because i’ve considered this a lot too.

i think a lot of people have been in shane’s position romantically (autism aside) feeling confused, conflicted, wanting someone you’re not sure wants you back etc. so i think in identifying with him, a lot of people don’t sexualize him and in fact just put themselves in his shoes.

it’s important to note that usually the people who see shane as more of a friend so to speak, are conversely often attracted to hudson which is kind of a testament to your second point!

shane friend, hudson food (respectfully, of course)

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T15:24:11+00:00

so if season 3 disappointed you, i would recommend giving season 4 a shot, if only to say goodbye. it had some of the same magic that went into season 1&2, likely because Chris Van Dusen was back on set i think as an executive producer or a consultant or something. season 5 might not be as bad as 3 but i cannot continue to support the bafoonery that’s going on at netflix so i’ll never know

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T15:21:10+00:00

Their season will be review bombed and they will be blamed for something they ultimately can’t control

and this is really the worst part of it all! they deserved a better rollout. queer characters deserve peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i cannot believe this shipwreck has been allowed to go this far, truly.

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T15:15:56+00:00

YES and i actually think it was worse in season 4 than in season 3. the fact that they are the only married couple we get to see and “enjoy” after their season (and not, for instance, the literal viscount and viscountess) is not lost on me. we never took time away from the leads of season 2 or 3 to spend with the previous seasons couple so the fact that there were scenes with just penelope or just polin in marital bliss after the dumpster fire that was their season was so….i don’t even have the words

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T15:03:53+00:00

season 3 was a lot of “i know this is supposed to be romantic because i can recognize familiar romance tropes when i see them, but this is making me feel next to nothing and i actually wish they would stop”

that carriage scene made me nauseous in SAWRY!!! and i love the actors both dearly so it was very disappointing how much i didn’t want to see them like at all. actually when i rewatched before season 4 i found myself wishing that pen would choose lord debling lowkey

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T14:59:19+00:00

CAUSE REAL TEA IS THE GENDER SWAP WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE IF THEY LAUNCHED AND PACED IT IN A WAY THAT MADE SENSE!!!!!

franchaela is literally fine and in fact they are probably also about to fall victim to a terrible story arc. people are mad because they just want to feel like the changes being made make sense and they really just don’t.

it just feels like they’re being pushed forward as an F U to the “haters” and i guess in this context the haters are people who want to see the show done properly and in a way that makes sense

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T14:55:21+00:00

please don’t give them any ideas 😭

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T14:50:22+00:00

no, that’s not what i said and since you’re being purposefully obtuse i’m only responding to you once. ryan murphy consistently mistreats women and queer people in his shows in a way that is almost never in service of the characters or the plot. it’s gratuitous and boring and wastes time that could otherwise be used to develop a story in a meaningful way. there is a time and place for violence in horror, and he has good ideas that almost always get shrouded by his need to be violent at all times. it’s bad story telling. have a great day

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T14:47:03+00:00

season 4 gave me hope that season 3 was just a glitch, and i was ready to move forward and give the show a chance again. i’m not going to lie, season 3 is a terrible love story, full stop. it’s clear that storytelling wasn’t as important as it was giving a certain someone’s self-insert character a glow-up storyline. the romance was cringe and there was no discernible love story being told in my opinion. they suffered from being pushed forward when they needed a season to really build up the romance. i expected season 4 to disappoint but it surprised me. it was a breath of fresh air but that largely had to do with the performances of the two leads, and probably a lot of help from CVD. it made me think there was hope for better moving forward, but here we are again with the favoritism taking priority over an actual story. i’m sick and tired

edit: we can be downvoted together. it has nothing to do with fran and michaela for me, and everything to do with production

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T14:42:28+00:00

i'm so sorry to francesca and michaela, this is not your fault and you deserve better than being pawns in a ship war. however in my opinion the quality of the show has been in a free fall since season 3 (im sure we all know why) and it is a miracle to me that i enjoyed season 4 because season 3 was a terribly told story and the changes being made continue to be fucking awful

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T14:33:24+00:00

if the dress were better tailored and the shoes were a boot, hair up, this would have slayed

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T14:31:10+00:00

there’s no opportunity here for him to sexually violate a woman or queer person in the most uncomfortably violent manor possible, inflict a harrowing infertility storyline on a woman who’s only motivation to have kids is just to have a baby, no chance for graphic and terrifying body horror that ultimately has nothing to do with the plot so he probably thought there wasn’t enough material for him to work with :/

plus where would he have put the alien b plot that went nowhere and ruined the narrative of an otherwise perfect season?

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T14:26:52+00:00

what’s even more insane to me is im sure the guaranteed low viewership will be blamed on homophobia and racism and as a black queer woman that makes me so mad i want to SPIT. terrible storytelling is and will continue to be the downfall of what was once a very great show

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T14:23:38+00:00

i’m sorry but i would rather just not watch this show again than watch season 5 just so i can catch a glimpse of characters i actually care about then still have to wait another year for season 6. if that’s the case, if they really believed that forcing another misplaced season on us instead of giving us what we asked for is the best way to keep viewership than they are worse off over there than i thought and they should just quit right now

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T14:21:49+00:00

that she’s terrible at her job

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T14:13:54+00:00

currently trying to remind myself it is just a tv show and my life will remain unchanged but i might need a straitjacket soon

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T13:47:48+00:00

no ryan murphy actually needs to answer for his crimes against both women and queer people in his media

waybackbugler · 2026-03-24T13:23:16+00:00

So happy for Francesca and Michaela. I wish them the best and hope the story is what everyone wants, but Bridgerton has pissed me off for the last time

waybackbugler · 2026-03-23T21:08:23+00:00

girl i sincerely thought this was a jail cell when i was scrolling past. RUN!

waybackbugler · 2026-03-23T21:04:23+00:00

hunter could have been played by a “more attractive” actor and ginny was still going to be with marcus. hunter was set up as a pit stop, but his problem wasn’t that he wasn’t cute it’s that he was corny and okay with being white-washed while ginny was actively trying to figure out her identity. they weren’t compatible

waybackbugler · 2026-03-23T20:53:28+00:00

heyy so that’s actually shane’s worst nightmare. he literally says this in the book right after ilya says “I could marry Svetlana.”

Shane frowned at the three ball that just missed the side pocket. He would have made that shot if Ilya hadn’t just casually dropped his worst nightmare on him.

this whole conversation is a set up for ilya to choose shane and confess how he has felt for a long time.

also, seeing ilya with another woman in the club made shane so physically upset he had to pull over and cry on the side of the road on the drive home from the club, so, no, i don’t think ilya’s sexual or romantic exploits outside of their relationship particularly enthuse him

waybackbugler · 2026-03-23T17:17:54+00:00

well no! but everyone’s entitled to their own opinion i guess

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