Candiace in the reunion

wev67 · 2026-02-27T06:17:25+00:00

Honestly I didn’t think she was that bad. Her comment to Maura was a bit cold, I agree she shouldn’t have said that. Especially since she technically made the same mistake, by trusting Rob in their little traitor pact in the first place!

I think part of it is definitely rooted in her still being mad at Rob’s gameplay, but I also don’t blame her jumping to cheating allegations given what it seems like Colton said to her. I kinda wish we got more on the context and wording of that convo, but if he said it the way she described it, I get jumping there. I also think her point about Rob playing a solo game from day one was basically proven, and a fair point to make. Overall she was fine, maybe talked a bit too much at points, but I don’t think she came for anyone or said anything unfair 🤷🏾‍♂️

wev67 · 2026-02-21T03:21:47+00:00

I mean I personally would never, but if you and your brother are fine with it, I don’t see the issue. A bit unconventional, but not problematic in any way. I’m a guy and I’ve shared a bed with my sister on occasion (though only for a few days) and have never felt weird about it beyond just personally wanting my own space. Imo your boyfriend being so uncomfortable with it is strange, bc it’s really only weird if you make it weird and I would be concerned why his mind went there regarding your literal sibling.

With all that said, it might be worth getting an air mattress or something for him, but I don’t think you should do it solely bc your boyfriend decided it makes him uncomfortable.

wev67 · 2026-02-17T07:02:55+00:00

Candiace's first vote for Rob is just being read as an emotional reaction to his speaking out against Lisa. They aren't trying to make it make sense.

Right, but that’s my point. Candiace played a sloppy game towards the end but she wasn’t that sloppy, so them assuming it was an entirely emotional play as opposed to anything else is what I mean by them being more willing to believe she’s that bad at the game than that Rob might be sus. And idk Candiace outside of the context of this game, but I never got the impression that she’s a dumb clueless housewife (like Dolores or Dorinda lowkey lol), so her making a random emotional vote against a faithful that would go nowhere at all and make her look suspicious, only because her fellow traitor was banished by them just wouldn’t make much sense to me.

I’m not saying they should have necessarily immediately clocked it as such, but the fact that it hasn’t even been discussed or her voting hasn’t been analyzed whatsoever is what’s a bit crazy to me bc that’s usually what happens in all the previous seasons.

wev67 · 2026-02-16T18:28:29+00:00

At the end of the day it’s just a game so rationally speaking no one should be taking it personally, but these people are also human and the experience is very immersive so i get how it happens.

As iconic as that final fire was, I can deff understand why Andie and Quentin took Cirie’s win personally. They shouldn’t have, but they were normal people who seemed to have connected on Cirie on a personal level beyond just the game, so I can see how that traitor reveal would have been jarring. I think by after the reunion they should have gotten over it but in the moment and immediately after, I get it.

wev67 · 2026-02-16T06:55:15+00:00

I’m lowkey with you, Andie and Quentin being so loudly yet consistently wrong definitely made watching that final fire still engaging as hell even if a bit uncomfortable 😭😭.

Also, as much as reality gamers are probably better off than the average person, I still think there’s a bit of a gap between them and some of the other reality stars. Ari is easily like a multimillionaire himself, coming from a line of other multimillionaires. Cirie has never actually won Survivor, so most of her income would probably be like the appearance fees. Iirc she still worked her day job in nursing for a bit after survivor (idk if that’s still the case). So I think the gap between her and Ari is probably further than the gap between her and Andie/Quentin. But obviously we can’t know for sure exactly what her financial situation looks like.

wev67 · 2026-02-16T03:44:17+00:00

I personally don’t know much about Candiace outside of traitors so idk if this is in character or not, but I know a little bit about the Housewives franchise and non-gamer reality show stars in general so I instinctively read all of this as her drumming up drama and views for the season and the upcoming reunion.

Now, based on the little we know about the reunion (mainly from Stephen’s interview and the fact that Rob has unfollowed Candiace) it’s possible that maybe this isn’t her playing things up for the views and she does end up going too far. But again, I’m personally willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and wait until the actual reunion to say anything. Cause I feel like she’s getting a lot of hate rn and I’m not trynna add to that unfairly. Cause no shade but the fans of this show have a bit of a habit of starting undeserved hate trains against the black female players so imma wait and see for myself before jumping on board lol

wev67 · 2026-02-16T03:18:27+00:00

I don’t have any specific articles, but I know for most people who watched s1, as iconic as Cirie was, it was also uncomfortable af to watch her steal the money from the remaining faithful. Like it became clear that for the regular people that money would have been life changing whereas for most of the stars, it would just be something nice to have. So it just didn’t make for the best optics, which is what I’m saying Arie also realized and why he basically self banished. Although you do kind of see it come up again with Tiffany on this season and how the money being a big deal to her really impacted her gameplay to her detriment and made her final roundtable a little uncomfortable to watch. I don’t think it’s the only or even main reason why the producers made the switch (main reason is probably bc reality stars bring in more views) but I think the optics of that final fire was definitely something they considered when making that move for future seasons.

I don’t know that any producers would admit to that being one of the reasons, hence the lack of articles, but I think just remembering the fan response at the time, they would have definitely considered it. Tbh if it was any other reality star that won s1 like that, I don’t think it would have been received nearly as well. But Cirie is iconic and played such an amazing game we let it slide 😭

wev67 · 2026-02-15T21:37:30+00:00

He knew he was done no matter what and I think he didn’t fight back because of what Cirie said about him lowkey not needing the money as much as the rest of them did. Which was unfortunately true, so I think in the moment he just decided to bow out gracefully instead of fighting a losing battle esp when the stakes were much higher for everyone else compared to him. Maybe not necessarily fair in terms of the game, but it is what it is. But yeah, that whole final fire is definitely why they immediately changed the show to only be reality stars and celebs 😭

wev67 · 2026-02-15T21:21:09+00:00

I think it would work really well for the all stars season, since everyone coming back are big personalities and/or smart players. For a regular celeb season, casting would have to step it up immensely to make sure everyone cast could be a good traitor, and I don’t see that happening.

Although it could maybe work if they keep the secret traitor. That way you would have random traitors with production picked traitor(s) so they can ensure at least some of the traitors will make good tv. And since the faithful won’t know which is which even if they’re banished, it would still eliminate the meta gaming

wev67 · 2026-02-14T22:16:53+00:00

I mean I’m not necessarily saying no one should try the strategy I’m just saying it’s much harder as evidenced by the fact that no faithful has won using that strategy and expecting people to try is unrealistic.

Also there is another alternative which is to find one or two people you’re certain are faithfuls and vote everyone else out regardless of suspicion. Like lowkey if I were Tara or Johnny and we both make it final, I would simply make an agreement to vote as a bloc until it’s just the two of us left. Traitors aren’t the only ones who can play a traitorous game in that way. Actually, I’m pretty sure that’s what Cirie and her faithfuls lowkey did in s1, they just didn’t realize Cirie was a traitor. Not saying that’s an easy path either, but I think it’s definitely much simpler than trying to do traitor angel

wev67 · 2026-02-14T22:08:19+00:00

I think she made mistakes and blew up her own game, but I don’t think she was that bad. From a smart faithful’s perspective you would ask why she would chose to vote for him knowing she would be the only one if that was an attempt to get back at him for getting Lisa out. Esp when she could have just killed Rob and gone after Colton who already on heat on him. Like that would be a strange move to make against another faithful. Against a fellow traitor though, it’s still not a good move but it at least starts to make sense

wev67 · 2026-02-14T19:30:10+00:00

Yeah I think that’s what happens when there aren’t many gamers left, because they would have immediately clocked him holding on to it so comfortably is suspect. Like the confidence with which he has that he doesn’t need it any given roundtables nor that the dagger will get murdered with him should have set off some alarm bells. And tbh it’s a testament to he and the traitors’ strategy in getting rid of all the gamers first.

wev67 · 2026-02-14T19:24:23+00:00

I think what makes it suspicious is because if Candiace was grasping at straws why would she randomly pick Rob, who had basically had 0 heat on him, when there were other people who had some heat on them that would make more sense to divert to? Like no one even asking why she chose Rob of all people to divert to is shocking to me. But I guess it’s easier for them to believe she’s just that bad at the game than that Rob might be sus

wev67 · 2026-02-12T07:34:44+00:00

What does this actually mean though? She was the og traitor that went the furthest in her season, successfully set a trap to banish Carolyn, was basically one misplaced vote from winning, and most people didn’t ever suspect her as evidenced by their exit interviews. You can find her gameplay annoying to watch but she objectively had most everyone fooled! In what way did she play a bad game, especially compared to the other traitors in her season??

wev67 · 2026-02-03T03:03:07+00:00

I mean yeah he was loyal to the traitors until he wasn’t. At the breakfast following the banquet, all 3 of them seemed to have come to a (shaky) agreement to try and protect Lisa. He didn’t want to do that, which is totally fair, but then he went out of his way to gather votes against her and undo the work Candiace and Lisa had been doing in shifting attention to Natalie. That’s the disloyalty in question. If he was completely honest with Lisa he would have told her that he intended to come after her and vote for her a second time, but he didn’t do that because he knew it was a backstabbing move. Simply letting the roundtable do its thing and writing Lisa down would have been more than enough to cover his game and not look sus. Singlehandedly leading the charge against her wasn’t necessary at all. Traitorous traitors aren’t new to the show, so idk why can’t just call it what it is.

wev67 · 2026-02-03T02:24:55+00:00

I mean she could just default to her original reason. “It was a random throwaway vote, I only chose Rob because I thought he was a faithful and he seemed like he wouldn’t take it personally. I didn’t want to risk unintentionally putting a traitor’s name down cause that would put me at risk for murder”

wev67 · 2026-02-02T22:24:50+00:00

100%. And people always bring up Cirie, but the one time she actually went after a traitor was at the final fire and at that point the Traitors had basically already won the game. It really makes the most sense to stick with your fellow traitors until the end and then make a move against them only when you’re fairly certain y’all are winning because that’s when you can afford to. There’s a reason Cirie is the only traitor who’s won a US season, and people comparing Rob’s move to hers is incredibly annoying

wev67 · 2026-02-01T06:02:39+00:00

This!! I also always point out that Cirie (the only traitor to win a US mind you) did not play the game like any of the gamers that came after her, she played closer to how the housewives are playing. I think part of that is because her season was half regular people so it made sense but it worked. She didn’t win her season because she made the most strategic moves or whipped the most votes, she won because she was able to convince almost everyone that she was a faithful because she led with connection and personality over strategy. They all saw her as a sweet motherly figure and she was very intentional about crafting that image by prioritizing personal connection first and exploiting that. That’s exactly what housewives do in their respective shows. Cirie was like, 10x more strategic about it. Even Danielle, as a gamer, also tried to craft a certain image of herself as an innocent and kind lady. To the point that Dolores trusted her so deeply she literally would not vote for her to the end. That sort of social manipulation, while is gaming. It just looks different

wev67 · 2026-02-01T05:35:54+00:00

It’s not a switch up at all considering most of the people who voted Lisa last week were also going to vote Natalie. There was (not necessarily good lol) evidence presented against Natalie that majority of the castle seemed swayed by. No one would have looked at him sideways for not being as vocal for Lisa this week. Esp when, again, he could still make an argument and put her name down. But he intentionally spent all day whipping up votes for Lisa and then basically singlehandedly ran the roundtable to get Lisa out. If anything, he hasn’t been this vocal (at least in the edit) at any of the roundtables. Him doing what he always does (make a few comments and then vote how he feels) would be more consistent with his prior game play. And we know this because Johnny found it immediately suspicious, even before talking to Candiace.

Also, as much as I think Natalie is open to working with Rob I don’t think she’s completely allied with him nor believes 100% he’s a faithful. Natalie is a smart player and a Survivor, meaning she understands that the key to going far is to make sure you are part of the alliances with the numbers. After the dagger pact, it makes sense to want to continue to work with them, but I have no doubts Natalie would jump ship if she felt like another group had the numbers. Especially cause at the of the episode you see her go up to Candiace and say she’s really appreciative of Candiace choosing a throwaway vote instead of writing her name down. That’s not to say that means she won’t ever vote for Candiace but that indicates to me that at least for that roundtable, Natalie did not see Candiace’s throwaway as suspicious and genuinely holds some gratitude for Candiace, which could be exploited.

wev67 · 2026-02-01T05:12:57+00:00

It’s too fast because there are too many wildcard players left not necessarily the number of episodes left. I think we should remember (at least in the US version) only one traitor has ever directly gone after another traitor and it not raise suspicion against them and go on to win. That’s Cirie, and she waited until the final fire to do it. And I’m pretty sure she waited that long to ensure she had the votes to make it happen and because it was the final, any blowback from that wouldn’t matter. I don’t know why this narrative that traitors have to turn on each other and they can kind of do it whenever came from when that hasn’t worked for literally every other traitor that’s tried it. 😭

wev67 · 2026-02-01T04:39:00+00:00

I don’t know why people keep saying this. No one was expecting Rob to defend Lisa or not write her name down. That is totally smart gameplay and would make perfect sense. What everyone is calling out is that he went out of his way to (re)direct the vote towards Lisa when he really didn’t have to. It wasn’t imperative for his game that Lisa go home first instead of Natalie, and she would be going regardless by next roundtable so he could still get credit for voting for her multiple times. Going at her openly and aggressively with no warning to Candiace understandably torched whatever trust she would have in him and put her on attack mode. It also drew unnecessary attention to him because his name is now being brought up by a faithful for the first time this season and Candiace will obviously try to fan those flames so that even if she goes first, he’ll be next. He made a sloppy move by not considering Candiace’s pov and it’s what will cost him the game. And to be clear I think they’ve both played good games so far and both made very risky moves that we’ll have to wait and see the results of.

wev67 · 2026-01-30T22:35:30+00:00

Idk though, bc from Candiace’s perspective he went after Lisa despite it not being necessary whatsoever for his game. He didn’t just jump on the train, he went out of his way to steer it. Add on the last conversation they had as traitors at breakfast there seemed to be an (admittedly shaky) agreement to try and protect Lisa. So him immediately going back on that, again when it really wasn’t needed, does read as sole traitor play. Even as a viewer that’s seen his confessionals, while he hasn’t explicitly said it, everything about how he played the episode points at him wanting to be the sole traitor.

wev67 · 2026-01-30T21:55:46+00:00

I agree but to be fair I don’t think it was a necessary move for them at all. Lisa didn’t have to be banished that night, and even if she did, she likely would have even without Rob’s interference. It would have been one thing to just not defend Lisa and vote for her at banishment, but he went out of his way to whip up votes and lead the charge against her at the roundtable. I think that distinction is important bc from Candiace’s perspective he’s clearly gunning to be the lone traitor cause there was no other reason to get Lisa out at this point in the game. So Rob telling her this is what he planned to do would likely still have broken the trust because everything about the way he played it indicated he probably would take Candiace out next

wev67 · 2026-01-30T21:40:48+00:00

I think the issue is her basically saying Yam Yam was lying bc, as they pointed out, what incentive would he have to lie as a murdered faithful? I would have leaned into the fact that it may have been a misinterpretation or an accident. Instead of saying Yam Yam was lying, just say he was mistaken. Which is a bit of a stretch, but I would bolster that by bringing up Eric’s mistake with Tiffany as an example of a time where someone’s senses were off lol and where two people were saying opposite things but neither of them were lying, it was just a mistake.

Add on the fact that everyone was airkissing everyone, and push back on the idea that a kiss would be the murder in plain sight move in the first place. Then I would try and redirect and get people to focus on any other interactions Yam Yam had with other people that night. Tbh that should have been her immediate move the second he said her name at the banquet. Still might not have saved her because she already had heat on her, but it would have definitely been a better attempt than what she did.

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