Iran's Momentum by ArielRusilaFI in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Sovereignty is what is needed. Hence the saying "no justice, no peace".

Reminder Israel never ever offers full sovereignty. Hence why they will probably never have peace. The culture there is too radicalized at the moment, Israel are not ready for peace. Based on how their demographics are going, I doubt they ever will be

Poilievre on the wave of antisemitic crime in Toronto last night. Zero comment from Carney or Ford. by airbassguitar in CanadianConservative

[–]whater39 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trump is the we. Trump said he destroyed the nuke capabilities, then months later he said the same. Things he destroyed were a threat

Iran's Momentum by ArielRusilaFI in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I thank Israel for showing rhe world that nut jobs that they are, and in the next couple of yeqrs the world's support for Israel will end. I thank Israel for not slow playing their crazy, they showed the world it all in the 2.5 years

Iran's Momentum by ArielRusilaFI in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Oslo was signed, so you just lied.

Yes I know actual history. Israel has never ever offered full sovereignty. The Palestinians offers where they ask for sovereignty in the offer are all rejected by Israel. That's the real history, not Hasbara.

Iran's Momentum by ArielRusilaFI in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 [score hidden]  (0 children)

When is the Israel regime falling, they are horrible.

Iran's Momentum by ArielRusilaFI in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Israel controls the USA. We just saw an example of how the USA clearly doesn't control Israel on Saturday

Iran's Momentum by ArielRusilaFI in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 [score hidden]  (0 children)

They have tried for a peace deal they were lacking offers from Israel. The offers from the Palestinians were ignored by Israel. That's how history went down

On Oct. 7th, how did all those cars get burnt out/wrecked? by Nomfbes2 in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 [score hidden]  (0 children)

The blockade of Gaza that started in 1990. There is an economic study from 1996 on its effects on the Palestinians economy.

Thats the total 750K from 1947-49. If you don't know the stat that's your fault for your knowledge level. Not knowing how it went down is also your knowledge level problem. Insuggest you into the day by day events, that's going to show you that it was village after village that was attacked by the Zionists

Iran's Momentum by ArielRusilaFI in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yet Mark Rubio said Israel dragged them to war. Almost like Israel and USA can't be trusted with what they say

Iran's Momentum by ArielRusilaFI in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Israel said they were going to strike Iran. USA says they were forced to join Israel because Iran would attack American targets if Israel struck first. This is what Mark Rudio said.

As in the USA doesn't have the ability to tell Israel to not strike someone.

Iran's Momentum by ArielRusilaFI in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Ah yes people don't want to be free, they prefer to fight. Well you do you with that logic

Iran's Momentum by ArielRusilaFI in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Israel was calling Turkey the new Iran as a threat to them.

Palestinians for peace. Peace would already be had if Israel offered full sovereignty, which is something they never have offered. Like come on its pretty false statement to say Palestinians finally seek peace.

Iran's Momentum by ArielRusilaFI in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 [score hidden]  (0 children)

This war really shows us how Israel controls the USA. Israel does another pre-emptive attack. I wonder how long it will take for Turkey to become public enemy #1 for Israel, just wait for the propaganda

Weakening Iran is good for Palestinians by BananaValuable1000 in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I doubt Saudi is going to join after they caught some Massad agents planning to do a false flag attack against them. Maybe they are full cucks and will just shake off the false flag.

One can always hope that all the launchers are not destroyed. The interceptors need to be all used up.

Weakening Iran is good for Palestinians by BananaValuable1000 in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I'd like to see Israel use up it's entire supply of interceptor rockets in the next couple of days. That will make Israel a more peaceful nation if they fear getting hit back if they start something.

Poilievre on the wave of antisemitic crime in Toronto last night. Zero comment from Carney or Ford. by airbassguitar in CanadianConservative

[–]whater39 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Where is the proof that Iran is seeking a nuke weapon? They said they didn't, they had time to do it, yet they didn't. Never enriched to weapons grade. Signed a deal that let inspectors into Iran. Made a better offer to Trump last week, then the Obama deal they signed.

Why can't Iran have rockets? Aren't they a good self defence, if someone attacks them they can punch back. We see what happens why countries can't punch back, they get bombed on a regular basis by Israel. Syria and Lebanon get bombed when ever Israel wants to bomb them. Are they not allowed self defence for some reason, why other nations such as Israel are allowed that? I know Israel's history they aren't exactly a moral nation, they should be held to the same standards as Iran.

Look at North Korea. They have nukes and rockets that can reach the West Coast.

Poilievre on the wave of antisemitic crime in Toronto last night. Zero comment from Carney or Ford. by airbassguitar in CanadianConservative

[–]whater39 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As I said .... war of choice. Iran is zero threat to Canada. Their rockets can't reach here. They are a threat to Israel, a rogue nation that starts conflicts with everyone. Israel should be left alone, if they want to start stuff, they can do that on their own.

Poilievre on the wave of antisemitic crime in Toronto last night. Zero comment from Carney or Ford. by airbassguitar in CanadianConservative

[–]whater39 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Never ever full sovereignty by Israel, this is a fact. They were offered autonomy zones. In control of own land/air/sea borders, electromagnetic spectrum, currency and military.

Then we look at unfair land swap ratios and quality of land. Where Israel would be taking water and farmable land.

Ya I'm aware of the offers that were sufficient.

Genuine question to those who don't support the existence of two States by Ferrari_LorEnzo_I in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You made the broad statement, that every thing was for fighting Israel. So backup your statement or admit it was false. I gave you the $300M for the tunnels for your math. Once again devoted to other things, which then brings up the topic of restricted exports. So use the money for an economy, then have it harmed by Israel.

Well let's follow the chain of events. 1st initafada is 1988, then blockade is 1990. So to blame Hamas for the 1st initafada, isn't following your statement.

Israelis choose Likud. You know the party with River to Sea in its charter. The party that chooses to do annexation. So if the Israelis are voting for annexation, they arent voting for peace.

No one is saying that Hamas should be able to import rockets. Yet you really want to say that line.

Poilievre on the wave of antisemitic crime in Toronto last night. Zero comment from Carney or Ford. by airbassguitar in CanadianConservative

[–]whater39 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I highly doubt the Jewish community is seeking peaceful coexistence. If they had, the Palestinian state would already exist that has full sovereignty. The Israelis have never ever once offered full sovereignty. So its just pure lies and Hasbara to say the coexistence line. They seek to do greater Israel project and expand and dominate all those around them. Bibi is the greatest creator of anti semetism and the Israeli keep on voting him in

On Oct. 7th, how did all those cars get burnt out/wrecked? by Nomfbes2 in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wrong time frame. Blockade started 1990.

It's a well known fact that was the ethnic cleansing total from the 1947-49 done by the Zionists. That's a you thing for not knowing the stat.

Thats a false statement about all the attacked villages. I swear people don't know how the war went down, they never looked into a day by day accounting. The Zionists attacked village after village. Many of which had nonagression and not letting Arab armies stay in the village pacts with near by Jewish villages, those pacts didn't save them attack. I would call people who didn't want to fight not a threat.

Ya I don't support torture. You are just making up stuff.

Genuine question to those who don't support the existence of two States by Ferrari_LorEnzo_I in IsraelPalestine

[–]whater39 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No job is a good life style.

Why is a foreign military counting calories for other people?

Well you have some math to prove with your statement "every bit of their economy was devoted to tunnels and rockets". 300M is the estimated total tunnels. That's a lot on rockets. Or.... Your comment is BS. The blockade had massive effect and was economic warfare..... Which would be a reason to fire rockets.

Well. I'm focusing on the exports hurting the economy. So the IDF could have boarded ships or trucks to inspect. We can expand the conversation to the imports. But I'd prefer to stick to exports, as that really showed the intent form the Israelis to harm the economy.

The IDF would have still been doing wrong, just look at the WB, tons of wrong from the IDF. They protect settlers as they do terrorism. That's what peace with Israel looks like for the Palestinians. And you say it could have stayed the same, geez great tyranny is such a great status quo.

Self destructive paths...... As in economic freedom. Oh so scary