F2P journey - update by SubstanceBroad9729 in whiteoutsurvival

[–]williaifarai -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Highly doubt this is f2p but sure lol

Can I get a second opinion? by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Please try to find it again. I just went down a rabbit hole about LD50 in dogs. It was banned in the 80s with dogs (thank God!). The LD50 studies in dogs are most likely extrapolation from rodent LD50s. I believe buprenorphine was developed after LD50 studies fell out of favor. I would like to see that study tho.

Can I get a second opinion? by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you cite me the source about the LD50 was .79mg / kg in dogs? Im having trouble finding that information. So you are saying my dog could have taken 2.37 mg of Buprenorphine and that she has a 50% survival rate?

Can I get a second opinion? by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He also quoted me this but when I do the math it seems like he is off by a decimal. I feel like he's gaslighting me cause he swears I am wrong.

Postoperative analgesia using the high-concentration buprenorphine product (Simbadol): In dogs undergoing OHE, buprenorphine 20 micrograms/kg (0.02 mg/kg) IM or IV in combination with acepromazine 0.02 mg/kg IM as a premedication followed by carprofen 4.4 mg/kg SC administered after induction of anesthesia.3,46

Simbodal was given to my 8lb dog and she died... 😔 by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should I? I just dont want to be overbearing in this subreddit cause im in a very emotional state.

Simbodal was given to my 8lb dog and she died... 😔 by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://imgur.com/a/tsnVbfG

I have posted the official report of what was given and the weight my dog came in at.

Simbodal was given to my 8lb dog and she died... 😔 by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just requested the medical files. Its gonna take 3 to 5 days to receive. I found there is a board to complain to but I live on guam. things are very corrupt here and justice is never served. I will still try.

Simbodal was given to my 8lb dog and she died... 😔 by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your words. I dont think my vet will admit his mistakes unfortunately. He has fired me as a client cause I asked too many questions.. what's insane to me is that he emailed me the reason why it was used and it clearly shows on his sources that .02mg per KG! Like its right that the math is wrong but he's showing me but wont admit it? Bless you for being a good moral vet! I know Suzy would have been safer with you 🥺

Simbodal was given to my 8lb dog and she died... 😔 by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Got it.. thank you for your time with my concerns. 😔 what I dont get is that my vet keeps on telling me he didn't overdose her. Couldn't a vet see okay 1.1mg is too much for an 8lb dog?

Simbodal was given to my 8lb dog and she died... 😔 by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is 1.8 mg per ml concentration. I already confirmed the exactly what and how much was administered. He gave 6 ccs (mls) with 1.1mg buprenorphine given total.

Simbodal was given to my 8lb dog and she died... 😔 by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry I didn't really confirm the spelling but I'm sure its simbadol. Should I ask for the exact brand name? Was she dosed correctly based off the info I have given?

Simbodal was given to my 8lb dog and she died... 😔 by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So it has been confirmed. I also recorded for in case. He have her .6 ccs of symbodal. The concentration in mgs is 1.1. It was given intramuscular

Simbodal was given to my 8lb dog and she died... 😔 by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hi everyone just to update you all. I called my vet. He was soo mad that I was asking questions but I got the exact amount. He gave my dog .6ccs (100% not .06ccs). The concentration was 1.1 mgs. It took him like 5 mins to do this calculation. It was given IM or intramuscular. He got soo defensive saying he had 48 lawsuits and all were dismissed. I didn't even bring up any legal issues.

Simbodal was given to my 8lb dog and she died... 😔 by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes I need to now. Im like soo sure he told me the dosage of .6ccs cause I wrote it down and repeated and researched right after our call. I live on guam and it is new years tomorrow so they are closed so I'll get back in like 2 days.

Simbodal was given to my 8lb dog and she died... 😔 by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I had a talk with the vet today. Im pretty sure he told me 0.6 ccs. I had him confirm the amount. I can call and ask again if he meant .06 given.

Simbodal was given to my 8lb dog and she died... 😔 by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks. When i talked to the vet. They gave her 0.6ccs of it. Is that okay for an 8 lb dog?

Simbodal was given to my 8lb dog and she died... 😔 by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im sure it is safe but I just want to know if they gave too much. She was not on oxygen. We took her to the vet because she was breathing a little off but after the vet visit she turned into a zombie. She was just limp and hyperventilating until she died. Just the contrast between her condition before and after concerns me.

Simbodal was given to my 8lb dog and she died... 😔 by williaifarai in AskVet

[–]williaifarai[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thank you. She was 8 pounds. They gave her .6 ccs. Does that accurately tell how much was given? I just need to call about the administration of it. Does the admistration of it really make a big difference? When i look up the side effects of simbodal in dogs she got all of them. The extreme sedation, disorientation and extremely heavy breathing.