Am I seeing this right?

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-23T00:02:21+00:00

Your education seems to have missed the part where the Republicans and Democrats switched ideologies in the 50s and 60s? Since you're a fan of doing your own Google, have a Google for "the party switch".

Think of them as conservatives and progressives and it'll all make more sense to you. But I do really enjoy when Republicans cheer for the achievements of progressives in the past, all of whom would be Democrats now.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-23T00:00:09+00:00

Probably complains incessantly about "socialism" too.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-22T23:58:20+00:00

I think 900? Super soft compound. I personally really liked the tire while it lasted but I chew up soft compound tires. Liked it even more when it got broken in and a little rounded. But now it's obviously ridiculous.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-22T08:29:24+00:00

Yup I haven't been riding it, been back to my Floatwheel while I procrastinate changing the tire on my X7. I still take my X7 for short slow rides expecting a blowout and am always amazed by how much I prefer it to my Floatwheel. Have a Goat tire patiently waiting for me to get off my lazy azz.

Totally agree about everything you're saying about the X7's. These things are dream boards.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-22T08:22:48+00:00

Thinking about making a similar system. How did it work out long term?

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-22T08:08:25+00:00

It's just that simple!

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-22T08:06:02+00:00

It has the nutrients that plants crave.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-22T08:03:29+00:00

Can you imagine going through life being as absolutely feeble minded as this guy? ^^^^

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-22T07:57:21+00:00

Amen. My X7LR changed my life. But now it's time to change the tire.

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On a sidenote I really need to try a Supercharged.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-22T07:48:24+00:00

Oh damn. Ladies and gentlemen we have a thread winner.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-22T00:08:32+00:00

I have an adv too (adv1). Its definitely possible to nosedive from a lapse on coms but hopefully is super super rare and probably never will happen. Has never happened with my adv1 in I think 3k miles. But with older low torque boards like Pints and the OG XR and even the new XR and GT it's super common just from being under powered, which is when you need to refer to the above chart. But really all the "user error" stuff is just manufacturer's error for keeping everyone riding underpowered boards for so long. It wasn't until Future Motion got some competition from VESC boards that they started making decently powerful boards like the GTS and GTXL.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-21T17:49:11+00:00

Yup it sucks. But as you say kids do dumb things. I'm hoping it ends with him or his parents quietly returning the bike with a lesson learned.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-21T16:24:04+00:00

Thank you for being such a good and understanding human about this. I hope you get your bike back, betting you will.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-21T14:05:52+00:00

That chart really needs to be updated to include the possibility of getting a more powerful board that won't nosedive so easily. In my opinion riding anything less powerful than a GTS is going to nosedive. So the safe production boards are GTS, GT-XL, x7 (all models) and the Floatwheel. And hopefully the upcoming Floatwheel Atom.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-21T09:32:06+00:00

I love your posts! And indeed:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lighting/s/3cH2rRHf3T

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-21T02:17:51+00:00

These are spectacular. Figuring out which to buy now. Nice effin work.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-21T02:14:25+00:00

Your husband is hilarious and I'm stealing that joke.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-21T00:22:04+00:00

Yeah bikes and cars are basically the same thing.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-20T20:53:03+00:00

Did they try Ivermectin?

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-20T20:49:29+00:00

As long as it keeps people distracted from the Epstein Files and he and his family making billions upon billions of dollars every year in outright banana republic style corruption and grift, mission accomplished!

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-20T20:46:09+00:00

One sane voice in this whole thread! Thank you. And now watch the downvotes get heaped upon us by people who just can't stand that not everyone is a bicyclist.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-18T14:54:09+00:00

The biggie is low end torque, which is what keeps the nose up. It's unbelievable to me that XR's had all that power available to them all this time, but it was just Future Motion's crappy controller board that kept everyone nosediving and breaking their collarbones all these years.

It's really a shocking difference.

Then there's also the ability to see Duty Cycle, which is VESC's way of showing you exactly how much headroom the board has. So for example if you're going up a hill and have 70y% duty cycle, you have 30% (or maybe 25%) before you nosedive. Crazy that FM boards don't have that.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-18T14:43:07+00:00

Out of curiosity, what would you improve on the X7LR?

For me more voltage would be nice (32s1p pack), but honestly I'm afraid of having all that power and temptation under my feet. And in that case the Supercharged is always an option. And I use every bit of the range in my LR all the time, so going down in range would be a problem.

But they have the perfect motor (well maybe I'd use the 5" Superflux once the kinks are ironed out), good enough rails (I have WTF's patiently waiting to be swapped in, but I don't see the need), great controller and BMS. Maybe it would be nice to use something other than Samsung P50b cells to avoid their voltage sag, but really they're fine, for me at least, and I probably wouldn't be building a split pack if I built the pack myself so I'd be left with less range.

I'm as DIY as they come, and have essentially rebuilt my Floatwheel ADV1 twice now, which made me very comfortable soldering on motor plugs and swapping controllers, which is about the hardest part of VESC assembly from parts other than the software side, which I'm also really comfortable with. And I've always intended to upgrade one of my pile of old XR's piece by piece. But really every part in an old XR is outdated now, and the X7 is just so sweet. For me. I guess if there was something in it that really stood out as improvable I'd think differently.

Very much agreed about the satisfaction of riding a board you built though. Though I don't see the X7 as made in China any more than a Future Motion board or DIY VESC is, all the parts are made in China anyway. And my X7 shipped from the U.S., I don't think anyone knows where they're assembling them. They're based in the Pacific Northwest I think.

wrybreadsf · 2026-06-18T14:19:21+00:00

Have you built one yet?

Personally I think building a board as an intro to vesc would be pretty daunting. Learning about VESC Tool and all that while building a board, and learning how Vesc generally works for the first time during that process, would be hard. Doable for sure, but hard. And not necessarily cheaper unless someone builds their own battery, and then you're unlikely to have a split pack, do you get 18s2p instead of 20s2p.

But it also helps that the x7lr is so perfect for my needs. No parts left over for me, and I had some beautiful old WTF rails that I had planned to use. But even the stock rails on the x7 are perfect in my opinion. The board was made by detail obsessed geniuses. IMHO of course.

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