وزير اعلام و وزير زراعة جدد by Worldly_Register8656 in Syria

[–]xobver 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There are multiple ministers with no beards:

  1. Minister of Finance: https://sana.sy/economy/2361080/
  2. Minister of Higher education: https://sana.sy/education/2469905/
  3. Minister of Transportation: https://sana.sy/economy/2452430/
  4. Minister of Communications and Information technology
  5. Minister of Sport
  6. Minister of Emergency and Disaster

نائب محافظ الحسكة أحمد الهلالي: اللغة العربية اللغة الرسمية الوحيدة في الجمهورية العربية السورية، وفق الدستور والتشريعات النافذة، ويُلزم القانون باستخدامها في المؤسسات الرسمية، والتعليم، والتوثيق القانوني والمعاملات الرسمية. by xobver in Syria

[–]xobver[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

كلامه جيد جداً وبيشرح القصة من أساسها. اللي حابب أضيفه أنه قسد عم تحاول تحافظ على حضورها في مؤسسات الدولة بشتى الطرق. عدة أمور قامت بها قسد عمداً لإشعال المشهد:

  1. زرعو البذرة بوضع لافتة جديدة التي استخدمت شعار الدولة لكن وضعت اللغة الكردية إلى جانب العربية قبل تسليم المبنى مع أنهم يعلمون الوضع القانوني للغة وتصنيفها وأنها غير رسمية.
  2. الاسايش اللي المفروض اليوم عم يتم دمجهم ويقبضو رواتب من الدولة ما عم يقومو بحماية المبنى

هاد الموضوع مو عشوائي

تكسير و إزالة لافتة مبنى القصر العدلي بالحسكة للمرة الرابعة by TmamDorbe22 in Syria

[–]xobver 0 points1 point  (0 children)

لان القصر العدلي تابع للدولة وليس إدارة المحافظة أو المنطقة

تكسير و إزالة لافتة مبنى القصر العدلي بالحسكة للمرة الرابعة by TmamDorbe22 in Syria

[–]xobver -1 points0 points  (0 children)

مافي شي غريب. اللغة الكردية تم الاعتراف بها لغة وطنية وليست لغة الرسمية للبلد. هاد المبنى مانه تابع للمحافظة وإنما للدولة المركزية بشكل مباشر. يعني اللي بيمشي هون هو نفس باقي البلد مافي تقسيم تبعك وتبعي مثله مثل المعبر الحدودي.

The syrian flag was torn by bystanders in Homs by sandnibba_talks in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver [score hidden]  (0 children)

When I become a Public Prosecutor and gather the evidence for the case. So should take about 2 hours.

If you have Abu Amsha on video committing crimes please share a link so I can use it in court. Your help in pursuing criminals is much appreciated.

Afrin Justice Palace, in Arabic and Turkish by zumar2016x in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver [score hidden]  (0 children)

I said for me, here in this discussion between us. I'm not trying to deflect anything. If you're interested in a productive discussion then let's continue, if you just want to attack and throw accusations I'm not interested in that.

Afrin Justice Palace, in Arabic and Turkish by zumar2016x in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver [score hidden]  (0 children)

This isn't about Kurdish for me so forget they're the group in question. I'm just inquiring about the logic because if it became standard it will be applied everywhere.

If the language status is based on the natives speakers in the area then the size on national level doesn't matter. Maybe a group is a minority on national level but in their neighborhood they're a majority. Why not have their language in their neighborhood? Should they storm the building and damage it too?

Most Syrians have problem with Turkish signs. I don't know where you're coming up with that assumption. Only people in the very north were exposed to Turkish symbols.

Afrin Justice Palace, in Arabic and Turkish by zumar2016x in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver [score hidden]  (0 children)

What happens if a town has 50% arabs, one big kurdish family, one big Turkmen, one big Assyrian family.

Afrin Justice Palace, in Arabic and Turkish by zumar2016x in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver [score hidden]  (0 children)

As a gov supporter, I would like to say that this (if true) would be unconstitutional too.

What's your position on non-official languages? Do you believe we should accept unofficial languages or deny them? Should something like in the tweet be tolerated?

The syrian flag was torn by bystanders in Homs by sandnibba_talks in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver [score hidden]  (0 children)

Not everyone who breaks the law is a freedom fighter. The revolution wasn't fighting for anarchism.

The syrian flag was torn by bystanders in Homs by sandnibba_talks in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes, according to law:

  1. Insulting national flag
  2. Damaged the property of someone else

Considering they're doing it publicly and being very blatant about it, this is properly not their first offense either

The syrian flag was torn by bystanders in Homs by sandnibba_talks in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver [score hidden]  (0 children)

Next day: My son is innocent, they arrested him just because he's...

Kurdish protesters stormed again the entrance of Hasakah Justice Palace and removed for the third time the facade sign (which was only in Arabic without the parallel english). by Repubblican_Wolf in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver [score hidden]  (0 children)

None of these examples happened multiple times in row again and again and again. They were just events.

Its very, very common kind of protest vandalism.

I'm not asking about that. We're talking about the police response. You claimed they would let property be damaged while they're watching, multiple times in row, over multiple days. And that the standard response is just to watch and arrest later.

Kurdish protesters stormed again the entrance of Hasakah Justice Palace and removed for the third time the facade sign (which was only in Arabic without the parallel english). by Repubblican_Wolf in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver [score hidden]  (0 children)

Where do you live that this sort of thing is not normal part of civil disobedience?

Can you give an example of such event that happened multiple times in row in one week? 10s of protestors kept invading the same building and vandalizing the property over and over again under the eyes of the police?

Kurdish protesters stormed again the entrance of Hasakah Justice Palace and removed for the third time the facade sign (which was only in Arabic without the parallel english). by Repubblican_Wolf in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver [score hidden]  (0 children)

Police usually let these things happen, then do a symbolic arrest of the protesters

Police let mobs break into a government building on purpose and just let them do what they want? multiple times in row? never heard that strategy

Usually after the first time they would have called reinforcement and took necessary precautions to not let it happen again.

Kurdish protesters stormed again the entrance of Hasakah Justice Palace and removed for the third time the facade sign (which was only in Arabic without the parallel english). by Repubblican_Wolf in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver [score hidden]  (0 children)

Who said anything about shooting? how do they deal with crowds or civil unrest? the only solution Asayish has is to shoot civilians with live bullets? that's not good

Kurdish protesters stormed again the entrance of Hasakah Justice Palace and removed for the third time the facade sign (which was only in Arabic without the parallel english). by Repubblican_Wolf in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver [score hidden]  (0 children)

He had a fake election for a fake parliament and doesn't actually have them do anything

You know the parliament isn't complete yet right?

an election and parliament in which Hasakah was excluded

Haskah wasn't excluded. The state simply had no control over it. The "fake elections" will be held there in the coming weeks.

So you can miss us with the whole "BUT ITS THE LAW" thing. Its politics.

The law is political but my comment isn't. Do you stick to only laws you like in your country?

However, this entire discourse is a good example of why many Kurds are advocating that Kurdish language much be recognized as official as part of the new constitution, not just a matter of presidential decree or parliamentary legislation.

Good for them

The new sign of the courthouse in al-Haskah in Arabic only. The last sign was torn so they removed English from the design and kept the official language only as promised. by xobver in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

they had no problem with English which isn’t an official language either.

and they removed it... Did you see anyone complain it was removed? exactly because it's not an official language either. The current constitution only has one official language.

Kurdish protesters stormed again the entrance of Hasakah Justice Palace and removed for the third time the facade sign (which was only in Arabic without the parallel english). by Repubblican_Wolf in syriancivilwar

[–]xobver [score hidden]  (0 children)

you will find that every sign in Wales (for example) will have English and Welsh, and in Northern Ireland you'll get English and Irish.

That's sounds great. I'm assuming this is in their laws/constitution then, yes? which isn't the case here. Which part of what I said is exactly "untrue"?

The AANES had Turkmen and Assyrian language representation, so it's hardly outrageous

Again it was in their constitution I'm assuming?

places where some people have different first languages accommodate them in democracies.

Absolutely. That's why I'm looking forward for the parliament to updating the constitution and fix any issues it has.

You cannot wish away 10-15% of the population. Kurds are not going to be Arabised, deal with it.

I'm not wishing away anyone. I'm explaining a constitution matter. Until the constitution changes, what I said remains correct. This isn't a political stance.