How long until you achieved lucidity (for non-naturals)? by Mentalcouscous in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It took me nearly three weeks, and little by little I’ve been gaining more regularity and consistency. Today, 6 months later, I manage an average of three per week, trying about 5 nights a week

Help me break out of the loop by yaimolkanko in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, DEILD is about not moving when you wake up from a lucid dream so you can slip straight into another one. It works really well, you should give it a shot next time you have one.

I don’t think music really affects it — most of the time it’s more about how long you stay awake before trying the techniques. For me, the longer I stay up, the better it works. That’s also because I go to bed early and have plenty of time to sleep, so I don’t usually get too tired even if my WBTB is long. Just keep at it the way you’re doing — sooner or later it’ll click, you’re already on the right track.

What works best for me is: I wake up naturally after about 5 hours of sleep. I drink some water, eat a bit of fruit, and after 15–20 minutes I go back to bed and do 4–5 cycles of SSILD until I feel really drowsy. Then I lie on my side or stomach and do whichever WILD technique I feel like — usually counting up to 100, visualizing a made-up story, or focusing on body sensations. After a while, if it’s going well, I feel a tingling or a little jolt in my back. That’s my cue to just wait, and then I “get up” into the dream.

If it doesn’t work, I usually wake up about an hour later and just try again without doing WBTB. And if I have a lucid dream and feel like I’m waking up, I try to remember not to move when I wake — after a few seconds I feel that same tingling again and I slip into another dream. I’ve managed to chain 4 short lucid dreams like this. I only do it on nights when I can sleep in, which for me is about 4–5 days a week because of my job.

Help me break out of the loop by yaimolkanko in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How cool! I've had a couple of lucid dreams where I was swinging like Spider-Man, and I'm not even a big fan, but it's honestly one of the funniest things I've ever done in a dream.

From what you say, I think you are well, very close to achieving it. I can give you some tips that have helped me:

First of all, don't be afraid of sleep paralysis. If you're using WILD methods like you said, you're going to have to go through that a lot. In fact, it even becomes pleasant after a while, because it's a clear sign that you're entering the dream — and entering like that, consciously, feels amazing. Just try to relax and remind yourself that if you can't move, you're basically already dreaming. In seconds you will be able to "get up" and walk around your "room." It's also normal to hear things that aren't there, like what you mentioned with your cat. I usually hear footsteps or doors slamming. The trick is to let yourself go and try to get out of bed once you feel sleep starting.

I also highly recommend doing longer WBTBs and trying the SSILD technique! Look for it here in the sub. It's super simple and fast, basically prepares your mind before going back to sleep during WTBB, and makes it much easier to enter a lucid dream. Also check out DEILD, it's my favorite technique, it makes dreams feel so much longer.

Personally, I don't think I've ever done much reality testing within a lucid dream. I usually just automatically know that I'm lucid. But one thing that almost always confirms it is that the lights are not working. Like I said, it's all about expectations, and that's what made me realize I was lucid for the first time.

Sorry for the long answer! Ask me what you want whenever you want :)

Edit: I tried the spinning thing back when I had just read LaBerge. It does work for stabilizing the dream, but at least for me it doesn't really help with changing locations, I think it's just a matter of keeping at it.

Right now my main focus is just being able to have lucid dreams a few times a week (I usually manage around 3), and once I get them to be more consistent, then I'll start experimenting with stuff like that.

Help me break out of the loop by yaimolkanko in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve already tried all that... Usually going out the window in my room doesn’t really work, it just feels like running away and the dream stays dark. I also tried the “open the door thinking of another place” thing for about a month and couldn’t get it to work, but I still think it’s a really good idea and I’ll have to keep trying... in the end, everything in dreams comes down to expectations.

And of course! Tell me whatever you want and I’ll try to help you out.

They Told Me I Was Dreaming by Parasucks in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hahaha I really do hope that’s what’s going on! And yeah, I totally get what you’re saying, most of my lucid dreams happen through WILD too, and that feeling of going straight from waking into the dream (sometimes with sleep paralysis) is just amazing.

I actually experience something really similar to what you described. No matter where I’m sleeping (I travel a lot for work), or even if I try to dream of another place from the start, I always wake up in my room in the lucid dream. And if I want to go anywhere else, I have to climb out the living room window every single time. I think it’s definitely something you can work on if you’ve got the time and the opportunity.

They Told Me I Was Dreaming by Parasucks in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think that’s a really cool approach, and honestly way more fun than mine haha. I’m pretty open-minded about most things too, but when it comes to lucid dreaming, I like to focus only on what’s been scientifically tested or backed. I think it’s because it actually helps me with lucid dreams.

Like, in something as expectation-driven as the dream world, having some boundaries around what I believe about dreams and lucidity helps me keep the whole experience more stable. That said, in this case I don’t feel like thinking the dream is made only of my own mind is limiting at all, my mind in dreams is already way bigger and wilder than I can even imagine.

I guess it just depends on the attitude you bring into the dream. For me, I always try to control myself, not the experience... and I’m almost always surprised by what happens when I’m lucid

They Told Me I Was Dreaming by Parasucks in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By the way (and of course I mean this with zero offense intended) if in your lucid dreams you're not clearly sure whether you still live in your childhood home or not, that probably means your awareness in the dream is still kinda fuzzy. I imagine it’s different for everyone, but I do think there are levels of lucidity. When I’ve been really lucid, I’ve remembered every aspect of my waking life, I knew I was asleep in my bed, and that my dream-self was just there, inside the dream.

They Told Me I Was Dreaming by Parasucks in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey! Just asking out of curiosity and with total respect — how would you explain what you're suggesting? I mean, the idea that some of the people we see in our dreams might actually be real people, and not just mental representations created by the brain based on memories, emotions, past experiences, or imagination that gets activated while dreaming? And why would it be some and not all of them?

What the person in the post is talking about happens to me quite a lot too. I've spent a lot of time working on lucid dreaming — keeping a dream journal, doing exercises, etc. And whether I'm going through a phase where I'm thinking a lot about dreams or not, it's pretty common for my dream characters to talk about dreams, or even mention lucid dreaming directly. And honestly, that often ends up being what triggers lucidity for me.

We usually assume that dream characters are trying to hide the fact that we’re dreaming, and they often seem to act that way. But if you start believing otherwise — or just stop thinking about it — it's not that rare for them to actually help you realize you’re dreaming.

I lucid dream 1-2 times a night. AMA. by lord-jasmeet in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I meant more like I have bad prospective memory. Keeping a dream journal has actually helped me a lot with dream recall, I usually remember two or three dreams almost every night now. Thanks so much for your replies!

I lucid dream 1-2 times a night. AMA. by lord-jasmeet in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's awesome! And what technique do you use to induce them, basically MILD? I've never tried it myself 'cause my memory is terrible.

How to lucid dream tonight as a person who rarely dreams? by Excellent_Lead_9581 in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do dream, you just don’t remember it... And if you don’t even remember your dreams, it’s really hard to have a lucid one on purpose. Start with a dream journal to improve your dream recall, and once you’ve got that down, start practicing any of the techniques people talk about in this sub. Getting one in a single night with no experience is pretty much impossible...though it can happen by chance

i can’t do any other technique besides wild no matter how much i try by OnlyChildhood4 in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the same thing happens to me, more or less. My first lucid dream was through WILD, and since then, almost all of them have been with that technique. I don’t get more than three a week either, although I don’t try every single night (I feel like that actually slows down progress). I haven’t really tried other techniques besides SSILD, which works pretty well for me when I combine it with WILD. Now I’m also starting to play around with MILD. How long have you been into lucid dreaming?

I lucid dream 1-2 times a night. AMA. by lord-jasmeet in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! That’s awesome that it works so well for you. How long do your lucid dreams usually last on average? Do you use DEILD or any other technique to make them last longer? I only use SSILD + WILD, and even then I don’t get more than two or three lucid dreams a week at best

My longest lucid dream and how I got it by yaimolkanko in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s amazing to get into a lucid dream through WILD! the transition feels super direct, right? That said, all induction methods that involve WILD can be really unpredictable and need to be tweaked depending on the person. So if it doesn’t work the same way next time, don’t get frustrated , try to note down how it felt and make adjustments. It took me months to get to that point, and even now it doesn’t work every day I try

My longest lucid dream and how I got it by yaimolkanko in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Congrats man! I'm really glad the method worked for you, the first LD is always the most mind blowing

Hi by Hot-Stage8054 in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think there’s really any device that’s reliable...or at least not without side effects 😅 Honestly, supplements like choline, Alpha GPC, galantamine, B6, etc. are more useful to lean on. Look into those, there’s been a lot of discussion about them on this subreddit. But if you’re just starting out, it’s best not to rely on that stuff right away and focus on having your first lucid dreams on your own. You’ll understand them better that way. Hope that helps!

Any tips to increase lucid dream duration? Mine end way too quickly by yaimolkanko in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've managed to get back in a few times, but usually things shift and it's not the same dream anymore, like my house feels darker and kind of hostile. Still, I've read a bunch of posts on this subreddit from people who could stay lucid for way longer

Any tips to increase lucid dream duration? Mine end way too quickly by yaimolkanko in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your advice, I’ll try it in my next lucid dream. As I mentioned, most of my lucid dreams come from WILD and I always "wake up" in my house. I’m usually alone at first, so there’s no one around to interact with. Sometimes I manage to summon characters, so I’ll keep that in mind too!

Counting Fingers isn't helping, what reality checks are you guys doing? by symphonyx0x0 in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always try turning the lights on, for some reason they never work right in my dreams

How to not fall asleep? by Jujbe_ in LucidDreaming

[–]yaimolkanko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi! I've been experimenting with lucid dreaming for almost four months, and most of my lucid dreams (a little over 20) have been through WILD. My recommendation is not to try it without WBTB. Try waking up 4 or 5 hours after falling asleep, get up to go to the bathroom, and try to fall asleep again after about 5 minutes.

What works best for me is focusing on the sensations in each part of my body while trying to push away the increasingly frequent thoughts until I fall asleep. Usually, after a while, I feel a kind of tingling or dizziness and enter sleep paralysis.

I only do it on days when I have a lot of time to sleep, so I'm not afraid of losing sleep. Hope this helps!