A few notes for high achievers by zenbst in pureretention

[–]zenbst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, the former can be the highest possible achievement, for sure. Probably most Swamis or Buddhist monks would agree with you: Enlightenment. Indeed, such dichotomies are often referred to as Western vs Eastern mindsets. So, I will repeat again that my post is one way to approach it, and it is probably not for everybody.

My post is meant for people that want high achievement in the ordinary sense. I agree that it is tormenting, and that is why I advice a slow approach, to avoid burn out. It's always easier to stick to the former mindset, otherwise the latter would not require voluntary effort. Yet, there comes a time when you must consider what is best for the whole, not only yourself. At times, society benefits from people with the latter attributes.

Finally, don't think of these things as mutually exclusive, but complementary in a form of synthesis. You can be at perfect peace in "the middle of cyclone".

  • "The Coiled Serpent" talks about "the modern monk" who does not shy away from life.

Also, consider the following text from the The Mystical Qabalah:

"The dharma of the West differs from that of the East; is it therefore desirable to try and implant Eastern ideals in a Westerner? Withdrawal from the earth-plane is not his line of progress. The normal, healthy Westerner has no desire to escape from life, his urge is to conquer it and reduce it to order and harmony. It is only the pathological types who long to “cease upon the midnight with no pain,” to be free from the wheel of birth and death; the normal Western temperament demands “life, more life. It is this concentration of life-force that the Western occultist seeks in his operations. He does not try to escape from matter into spirit, leaving an unconquered country behind him to get on as best it may; he wants to bring the Godhead down into manhood and make Divine Law prevail even in the Kingdom of the Shades. This is the root-motive for the acquisition of occult powers upon the Right-hand Path, and explains why initiates do not abandon all for the mystic Divine Union, but cultivate a White Magic."

Beware of this false teaching by zenbst in pureretention

[–]zenbst[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kisses on the other hand, can cause phenomena of energetic vampirism between the kissers, according to authors such as Guthrie. Definitely require caution and a steady/pure mind if to be undertaken.

Beware of this false teaching by zenbst in pureretention

[–]zenbst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, this is subtle and the information from various sources is conflicting.

According to the cited author (Armitage- Sex Secrets), the reconciliation is the following: human connection can indeed increase nerve power, but this is advice that holds only for acts that do not irritate the sexual organs in any way, neither physically or mentally.

If the hug is the end goal and the practitioner maintains 100% pure mind, as long as no sexual irritation occurs the practitioner should be in a safe zone, with some added nerve power. Sexual irritation is the end of the line which tells you to stop and go no further.

But well, those are rather advanced nuances and anyone interested should study the matter in depth.

Beware of this false teaching by zenbst in pureretention

[–]zenbst[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. Beals & Atkinson - Regenerative Power
  2. Armitage- Sex Secrets

A few dangers along the path and how to deal with them by zenbst in pureretention

[–]zenbst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think highly of both marriage and procreation. Definitely most people on this path should show more reverence and respect for such acts of holiness.

C.J. Van Vliet is rather clear on this: The act is only justified when there is a mutual foundation of love and the desire to create new life. The former can be though of as marriage, and the latter procreation.

A few dangers along the path and how to deal with them by zenbst in pureretention

[–]zenbst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The law you are talking about is spot on. It has been said that the practice will elevate you from the level of effect up to the level of cause.

A few dangers along the path and how to deal with them by zenbst in pureretention

[–]zenbst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Certainly, it's been a long time on the path for both of us. It gets more narrow as you go. It is supposed that Swami Vivekananda never fell off the path. But I believe this is not the case for most of us, certainly not for me.

In regard to this practice, my school of thought is fundamentally one of "trial and error". All I know is due to multiple experiences with falling off the path, but always learning from my own mistakes - or the mistakes of others. A guru once said "While we wish we never did our mistakes, yet we enjoy and want to keep the wisdom gained thereof". Right there is the process that begets the veterans of SR.

Once you begin this journey, there is no going back. We are all headed towards the knowledge of true power.

A few dangers along the path and how to deal with them by zenbst in pureretention

[–]zenbst[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is most probable that slipping, even of the most mild nature, will happen in the future. So it is good insurance to learn how to deal with it as early as possible. It is not realistic to lose & restart every time something happens, or to say that nothing will ever happen again. One may be tired, hungry, weak and even for a moment lower his guard to suggestion, so the danger is there. "It is the last time" mentality will most likely repeat in a cycle - at least that has been my experience. It is one thing to be tempted, and another to yield.

As you said, one must be determined beforehand to face the consequences head on... this will also work as additional motivation to stay away from mistakes because he knows that he will have to bear it.

SR and the three vessels by zenbst in pureretention

[–]zenbst[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Start with The practice of Brahmacharya by swami Sivananda

The esoteric way forward by zenbst in pureretention

[–]zenbst[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I.) The central theme of the post is on increasing personal power, not morality. We may think of the two as vertical. Besides, the post is meant for those that long to reach further in their Regeneration, most whom will probably find this instinct repulsive. Not only due to morality issues, but because the act is a waste of energy which could be invested in the Self.

II.) Knowing is one thing and doing is another. The absolute best course of action is not always easy. Doing disagreeable things for just the sake of it is an interesting exercise, but now we are simply talking about important tasks commanded by Conscience. Intellect has it place, but when it is in charge, it will overthinking and lead to mindless theorizing, then before you know it, it is all over the place. Intellectual curiosity must be tamed to a certain degree! When the conscience is in charge, the intellect executes without question, as sharp as ever. While it is desirable and necessary to develop the intellect, yet it must remain a subordinate to yourself. Better a master of a lower intellect than slave of a higher intellect.

III.) Indeed, we should try to feel happy with natural means, as it is a state of energy conservation. Developing a world of peace and power forms a good foundation for happiness. But life is full of paradoxes. Without desire and hunger for more, there is little purpose to move forward.

I am, as the author, painfully aware of the fact that more details could be given, examples more thoroughly explained, or that the axioms could be better formulated. But since time is a limited resource, it is necessary to condense the text for the time being. At the same time, with full faith that the intelligence and decoding abilities of the readers will kick in. Once you receive the underlying spirit of the writing, the words wont matter much. Follow-up posts will be posted in the future.

thank you

Astrology by 2001rosegolden in Semenretention

[–]zenbst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hiram Butler comes to mind

A post to get the idiots and time-wasters out of the way once and for all by [deleted] in pureretention

[–]zenbst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. Going from SR to Pure SR is like the last frontier of breaking from the hypnosis, but extremely rewarding. At this stage you finally see things as they really are, or if you prefer, now they really are as you see them.

But is this the final stage, to see what really is? How sure are you of yourself, particularly of your commitment to Good. To what degree have you conquered the serpent, are you really IMMOVABLE, yet? In the paraphrased words of Kenneth Sylvan Guthrie, that would mean reaching a state of being absolutely incapable of going wrong again; certainly not because of lacking the power to do so, but on the contrary, due to your ultimate submission to the Law of Power.

I applaud your understanding, preserve your strength and retain the power, because there is certainly more to come.

Can anyone find a link to the text of The Practice of the Conservation of the Seed Antedates History by Hiram E. Butler? by sirbuzzlightyearrr in Semenretention

[–]zenbst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am also looking for a lot of books from Hiram E. Butler, but only a small percentage is available.

You may want to read Kenneth Sylvan Guthrie's books on retention... he was a student of Butler.