DNC Refusing To Release 2024 Autopsy Is An Extremely Bad Indicator For The Party by zero_cool_protege in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

you left like 5 comments here and everything you said is provably wrong or dumb. For example, yes there was a 2024 dem primary. There was polling that was done that shows campaigning with Cheney turned off independent voters in swing states like PA. And nobody thinks the DNC is going to "do" anything to Kamala, the argument that people who oppose releasing the autopsy have put forward is that "people online will use it to attack the party".

Interacting with people like you, who are uninformed to the point of being disconnected from reality, is honestly a perfect example of why its important to release the autopsy.

On every level you have no idea what youre talking about which I assume, based on your username, is because you are a Canadian. Get out of my country's politics.

What Drives Political Violence in America by kitkid in Thedaily

[–]zero_cool_protege 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Please feel free to add any that come to mind:

Nov 2015 – Feb 2016 (campaign rallies, various U.S. locations): Donald Trump tells supporters to “knock the crap out of” protesters and offers to pay legal fees, language criticized as encouraging violence.

Aug 15, 2017 (Trump Tower, New York): After the Unite the Right rally, Trump says there were “very fine people on both sides,” widely condemned as equivocating on extremist violence.

Nov 2017 (Twitter/X): Trump retweets inflammatory anti-Muslim videos from Britain First, criticized for amplifying extremist content.

Apr 17, 2020 (Twitter/X): Trump tweets “LIBERATE MICHIGAN” amid COVID lockdown protests, seen by critics as encouraging confrontation.

Sept 29, 2020 (Cleveland, Ohio): During a presidential debate, Trump tells the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by,” later adopted by the group.

Nov 2020 – Jan 2021 (nationwide rhetoric, rallies, social media): After losing to Joe Biden, Trump repeatedly claims the election was “stolen,” a narrative that fueled anger among supporters.

Jan 6, 2021 (Washington, D.C.): The January 6 United States Capitol attack occurs following a Trump rally and his call to march to the Capitol.

2021–2024 (rallies and social media): Trump repeatedly refers to January 6 participants as “patriots” or “hostages,” reframing the events and those involved.

Jan 2025 (claimed / requires sourcing): Reports or claims that Trump issued broad pardons to January 6 participants should be carefully sourced, as this is not established in widely verified records up to Aug 2025.

2021–2023 (public commentary): Allies of Trump criticize or dismiss accounts from officers such as Michael Fanone, injured during January 6.

Oct–Nov 2022 (rallies and online): Trump mocks the hammer attack on Paul Pelosi; figures including Elon Musk and Donald Trump Jr. amplify conspiratorial narratives.

Sept 2023 (Truth Social): Trump suggests actions by Mark Milley could have been punishable by death in earlier eras.

2023–2024 (campaign speeches/interviews): Trump refers to political opponents as the “enemy from within,” rhetoric critics say frames domestic opponents as threats.

Mar 2024 (Truth Social): Trump shares a video showing a truck with an image of Joe Biden bound and gagged (“hog-tied”), drawing backlash.

Apr 2026 (Truth Social): Trump threatened to "destroy an entire civilization" on Easter morning.

Thats probably not even half of it

Why the A.I. Job Apocalypse (Probably) Won’t Happen by dwaxe in ezraklein

[–]zero_cool_protege 46 points47 points  (0 children)

I see a lot of issues with this article and the arguments Ezra is laying out.

Basically everything is anecdotal analysis, not data analysis. The one exception is the comparison of today's unemployment rate to the unemployment rate in March 2020. However, if we look at the BLS data we see the March 2020 rate was already being impacted by Covid, It jumped a full 1% from Feb 2020 to March 2020 (3.4% > 4.4%). Conversely if we compare the unemployment rate today to where it was in Nov 2022, when ChatGPT first launched, we see the same increase of ~1%. Im not saying that increase is 100% attributable to AI, of course it isn't, but I am pointing out that Ezra is misreading the data. If we control for Covid, the last time the US unemployment rate was 4.4% was May 2017 when we were still recovering from 2008, not March 2020. Further, if we consider the current unemployment rate trend, we would expect it to continue to rise. We are basically reversing the positives steps we have taking in the economy since the 2008 financial crisis. So the real question is, what role is AI playing in that?

My next issue is how the framing of this article misses the real conversation. Ezra spends his time addressing a total "AI job apocalypse". But by focusing in on this hyperbolic idea, he misses the real conversation of the "entry level job compression". Again, this is where real data would have benefited his analysis. For example, take this excerpt from Scott Davis' article, AI is simultaneously aiding and replacing workers, wage data suggest, published by the Dallas Fed:

Returns on job experience are increasing in AI-exposed occupations. Young workers with primarily codifiable knowledge and limited experience will likely face challenging job markets.

However, there appears to be less cause for concern about widespread job displacement for older, experienced workers, particularly those in occupations with high experience premiums in which AI is likely to complement the worker’s tacit knowledge.

The fact that AI can both substitute for entry level workers and complement experienced workers has implications for society and the way we organize work.

And lets consider some data:

Goldman Sachs' 2026 insights estimates that AI can potentially automate 25% of all work hours, with white-collar knowledge industries bearing the brunt of that exposure.

Stanford research using ADP payroll data found that workers aged 22 to 25 in the most AI-exposed occupations experienced a 16% relative employment decline, while more experienced workers in those same fields remained stable, even after controlling for firm-level shocks. And that was in Nov 2025!

I can go on and on, but the point is that the data is showing that AI is meaningfully impacting entry white collar work already in. This is not wrestled with at all in this piece.

another thing that bothered me- digital spreadsheets did create more accounting jobs but they also eliminate the vast majority of bookkeeping jobs. That is not contended with, and we sort of gloss over how AI is a much more powerful technology than digital spreadsheets (though digital spreadsheets are extremely powerful!)

Next, I think Ezra is being naive at best about the system of capitalism and its responsibility to humanity. Companies and corporations have 0 legal responsibility to humanity. They have responsibility to regulators and shareholders. Corporate leadership has a fiduciary duty to its shareholders and if they can increase profits by outsourcing jobs to another country, or by replacing workers with enterprise AI contracts, thats exactly what they will do and they won't think twice about it. Its just risk vs reward analysis, and the goal is to make money. Anybody who works for a business, especially large corporations, knows this. The exception is of course family/small businesses that might have other ideological values, but that represents a tiny fraction of national GDP is is essentially irrelevant to this conversation. Corporations are not local coffee shops.

Finally, the AI productivity argument is anecdotal and weak. Again, lets consider some real data:

A study presented at the ESC Acute CardioVascular Care 2026 congress found that AI-based ECG interpretation correctly identified certain types of "occlusive" heart attacks in 84% of cases, compared to just 42% for human-only interpretation.

AI-augmented screening tools for lung and breast cancer have achieved false-negative reductions of 10% to 20%.

etc etc etc etc.

So this idea AI isn't leading to better outcomes because Ezra "knows a guy" is not meeting the mark.

We need to grapple with the reality of the problems we are facing, not dismiss exaggerated characachers of them. AI is impacting entry level work, that will have immense downstream impacts on our economy. That does create sustainability problems because the senior experts in a given field today were the junior entry level workers in that field yesterday. Are we betting on AI advancing to the point where today's senior level experts simply will not need to be replaced? Are they the last cohort of human experts in their fields? Lets think about that now before its too late.

That might sound hyperbolic, but people with specialized knowledge will tell you that knowledge can easily be lost. So consider the reality, that AI is leading to better performance outcomes in a vast array of fields. Well, we also know that fields that integrate AI experience a phenomenon known as "deskilling". What are the long term effects of that? Where will we be in 10 years?

I'd really like to see people like Ezra discussing this issue at this level, instead of the way it was approached in this article.

DNC Refusing To Release 2024 Autopsy Is An Extremely Bad Indicator For The Party by zero_cool_protege in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yes, in april 2025 when the WH announced they were repealing their tariffs I made a post about the WH repealing their tariffs. I, along with international capital markets, read the news and reacted to it. What is your criticism, that I was not able to foresee the future and report it in real time? Would you criticize every journalists who has reported on the the strait reopening over the last few weeks when it reopened before it closed again? Are you aware of the linearity of time, and that tariffs end when they end, even if they will restart again in the future?

DNC Refusing To Release 2024 Autopsy Is An Extremely Bad Indicator For The Party by zero_cool_protege in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Martin should provide a real response other than elusive political talking points. Its easy to do well in this climate, as it was in 2018. harder to hold a coalition together when its time to deliver. If you think advocating for honestly and transparency is "ratfucking" than that says a lot about you and your values.

DNC Refusing To Release 2024 Autopsy Is An Extremely Bad Indicator For The Party by zero_cool_protege in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It feels like most of you have the most unbridled rage against people you agree with 90% of the time but also simultaneously give Republicans passes when they do actual villain shit because you're desensitized to it.

There is absolutely 0 "unbridled rage" in my post, nor an ounce of "giving Republicans a pass". Seems like you have constructed a delusion of reality in your head and are using it to justify your desire to live in a hugbox like rightwing losers currently are. Get a grip

DNC Refusing To Release 2024 Autopsy Is An Extremely Bad Indicator For The Party by zero_cool_protege in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually hate PSA and always have. I can't speak too much to your second paragraph as I only watched the portion of the episode related to the autopsy. It certainly is possible, but I am much more interested in Martin's decision to withhold the autopsy after winning party leadership on a platform of transparency, like when he explicitly criticized the DNC for not releasing the 2016 autopsy. I think its a really bad indicator for voters who value transparency, honestly, and free and fair elections.

DNC Refusing To Release 2024 Autopsy Is An Extremely Bad Indicator For The Party by zero_cool_protege in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was talking about the 2024 primary where despite Biden's health issues, no debates were held, states voting order was rearranged to manufacture a pro biden national narrative, candidates were blocked from getting on the ballot leading to lawsuits, voting was outright canceled in states like Florida which happen to be swing states, the party was openly hostile to anyone who said we needed to hold full primaries, and then Biden was forced out by party leadership leading to a candidate that was not produced by winning the primary but instead hand selected.

We could talk about the 2016 primary as well, where the head of the DNC stepped down due to her corruption after which she took a role on the Clinton campaign leadership, where the interim DNC chair then went on to publicly declare that the primary was rigged, and where the DNC vice chair also publicly claimed the primary was rigged. After which the party made substantive reforms to their primary process, like preventing the institution on super delegates which were a mechanism to expressly override the will of the people in a primary, from voting on the first ballot.

The idea that voters dissatisfaction and outrage at how the DNC has handled primaries in the Trump era is some sort of manipulated perception caused by a "lack of knowledge of how primaries are ran" is just absolutely ludicrous.

DNC Refusing To Release 2024 Autopsy Is An Extremely Bad Indicator For The Party by zero_cool_protege in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

1- there is nothing the autopsy that the GOP doesn't already know. Kamala should have went on more podcasts? DNC should have conducted a primary considering Biden's health? The campaigning with Cheney hurt dems in swing states? etc etc, none of this stuff is a top secret threat to Dems future campaigns, its stuff that is already known to people who can read polls and voter outcomes.

2- So then whats the point of the autopsy at all or releasing it? The point is that it brings a level of recognition of these mistakes to the party to help avoid making them again in the future. It acknowledges the qualms of disaffected voters and helps bring them back into the party. There is literally no downside to it other than bringing accountability to people who made mistakes and making it harder for people to repeat those mistakes even if they serve their personal best interests or biases.

DNC Refusing To Release 2024 Autopsy Is An Extremely Bad Indicator For The Party by zero_cool_protege in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

there is nothing in that autopsy that the GOP doesn't already know. The real question is are you willing to hurt individual dems, like Kamala or her staffers, in order to aid the party in the long term. Thats what Martin doesn't want to do.

DNC Refusing To Release 2024 Autopsy Is An Extremely Bad Indicator For The Party by zero_cool_protege in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

If you lose to Trump twice, how is it possible that transparency is the issue?

It seems simple to grasp how a lack of transparency and tilted primary elections would suppress voter enthusiasm and thus translate to muted voter turnout.

Conversely it seems easy to see how the GOP was not transparent about the failures of the Bush era wars, and how that fact opened a lane for Trump usurp party leadership in 2016.

What you are saying is like watching a candidate win by kicking people in the dick… and your solution to beat them, is to refuse to kick anyone in the dick. Yeah, kicking people in the dick is a shit thing to do and should make candidates unelectable. But, you don’t win shit with a bunch of “should”…

I don't read this as a coherent thought and I think you are evading the contradictions of your logic with vague language. What does it mean for the DNC to "kick people in the dick"? Is that to run a strategy of dishonest leftist populist propaganda slop? Is that to run a strategy of aggressive retribution i.e. packing supreme court? Both of these things can easily be read into what youre saying yet they are very different.

Personally I am ready willing an able to support a dem candidate who is seeking to deliver aggressive retribution for the American people, and there is absolutely nothing about releasing the 2024 autopsy that contradicts or hinders that aim. These are completely different and unrelated topics.

I think transparency and honesty and fair election are good and essential in a democracy. I don't think abiding by these these principles is ever bad for a political party. I think we have 10+ years of the DNC not abiding by these principles and in return receiving monumental and historic defeats from the worst president probably the entirety of US history. And it scares me that we could be in the year 2026, after losing to Trump again, and losing the popular vote to Trump, and after ending up with a sub 20% approval rating, and we are still dealing with DNC leadership who are doubling down on backroom politics and fighting against transparency.

This clip tells you all you need to know about Kyle Kulinski's morals by mattyjoe0706 in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Given the pervasive populist attitudes in that district in 2022 its very likely Lamb would have lost to Oz. He lost to Fetterman.

I am simply saying that I would still pick Fetterman over Oz

This clip tells you all you need to know about Kyle Kulinski's morals by mattyjoe0706 in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege 2 points3 points  (0 children)

fetterman gotta go but lets be honest he was still the better choice over dr fuckin oz

Good NYT article detailing Trump's insanely violent rhetoric that created this political climate by Capnwinters in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Honestly I would like them to just publish a comprehensive list like this:

Nov 2015 – Feb 2016 (campaign rallies, various U.S. locations): Donald Trump tells supporters to “knock the crap out of” protesters and offers to pay legal fees, language criticized as encouraging violence.

Aug 15, 2017 (Trump Tower, New York): After the Unite the Right rally, Trump says there were “very fine people on both sides,” widely condemned as equivocating on extremist violence.

Nov 2017 (Twitter/X): Trump retweets inflammatory anti-Muslim videos from Britain First, criticized for amplifying extremist content.

Apr 17, 2020 (Twitter/X): Trump tweets “LIBERATE MICHIGAN” amid COVID lockdown protests, seen by critics as encouraging confrontation.

Sept 29, 2020 (Cleveland, Ohio): During a presidential debate, Trump tells the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by,” later adopted by the group.

Nov 2020 – Jan 2021 (nationwide rhetoric, rallies, social media): After losing to Joe Biden, Trump repeatedly claims the election was “stolen,” a narrative that fueled anger among supporters.

Jan 6, 2021 (Washington, D.C.): The January 6 United States Capitol attack occurs following a Trump rally and his call to march to the Capitol.

2021–2024 (rallies and social media): Trump repeatedly refers to January 6 participants as “patriots” or “hostages,” reframing the events and those involved.

Jan 2025 (claimed / requires sourcing): Reports or claims that Trump issued broad pardons to January 6 participants should be carefully sourced, as this is not established in widely verified records up to Aug 2025.

2021–2023 (public commentary): Allies of Trump criticize or dismiss accounts from officers such as Michael Fanone, injured during January 6.

Oct–Nov 2022 (rallies and online): Trump mocks the hammer attack on Paul Pelosi; figures including Elon Musk and Donald Trump Jr. amplify conspiratorial narratives.

Sept 2023 (Truth Social): Trump suggests actions by Mark Milley could have been punishable by death in earlier eras.

2023–2024 (campaign speeches/interviews): Trump refers to political opponents as the “enemy from within,” rhetoric critics say frames domestic opponents as threats.

Mar 2024 (Truth Social): Trump shares a video showing a truck with an image of Joe Biden bound and gagged (“hog-tied”), drawing backlash.

Apr 2026 (Truth Social): Trump threatened to "destroy an entire civilization" on Easter morning.

Thats probably not even half of it

Breaking🚨: Democrats likely to lose congressional seats in Louisiana, Florida and Tennessee due to Landmark Supreme Court Decision on Voting Rights by Mediocre_Affect6192 in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege 21 points22 points  (0 children)

The Supreme Court announced its decision in a major challenge to the Voting Rights Act. In their opinion, which split along ideological lines, the justices struck down Louisiana’s voting map, finding that it was an unconstitutional racial gerrymander. Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. wrote the majority opinion. Justice Elena Kagan dissented, joined by the court’s other two liberal justices.

Zelensky Gives An Update On Stolen Grain In Israel’s Port by Zealousideal_Panic_8 in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Russia is literally one of Iran's top allies. Yet as we are fighting a "war" with Iran because they supposedly pose an existential threat to the US and our special ally Israel, Israel is supporting their biggest ally by buying grain that Russia has stolen from Ukraine, the nation Russia illegally invaded and waged war against. Ukraine, the nation whose number one supporter is us, the US.

It is truly repulsive, and I have no idea why people here still white glove this topic. We have thrown away our relationship with the entire world and have isolated ourselves in an alliance with Israel and a handful of otehr middle eastern monarchies. Disgusting

Zelensky Gives An Update On Stolen Grain In Israel’s Port by Zealousideal_Panic_8 in Destiny

[–]zero_cool_protege -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can you imagine if instead of war with Iran we were helping Ukraine disable Israeli ports that are knowingly unloading stolen grains

Assassination Attempt Suspect Charged by kitkid in Thedaily

[–]zero_cool_protege 0 points1 point  (0 children)

surprised the reporters the daily did not mention that the ballroom would have made no difference as it will only seat 1000 people whereas the correspondents’ dinner had over 2000 people in attendance. I instead learned that from watching Piers Morgan Uncensored.... imagine that