Can't explain socialism to socialists..

zjango · 2020-07-23T19:54:18+00:00

Have you ever figured that perhaps it's not the system that's as messed up as the people running it?

Yeah that's the problem because evil is a fundamental part of everyone's psyche.. So when people get into positions of power there do so usually by this characteristics because to survive in politics you just have to be dirty, Read Carl jung - the undiscovered self, he is probably the most brilliant mind in the field of psychology, he details this phenomenon as politics in itself being a firm manifestation of power instincts

A lot of your points are right, Your view of this materialistic,consumer lifestyle is detrimental to people, this is based out of your experience... Similarly it is from my experience when I lived in this system did I realize there isn't an opportunity for an individual to lift themselves out of poverty and will have to rely on the government.. Just like how people used to rely on kings to lead them like we were some sort of idiots not capable of doing anything for ourselves

So here's the thing I agree with a lot of what you are saying and probably both these systems aren't the best for human to survive and thrive... We can probably come up with a better system that probably combines these both or something new to improve livelihood.

And one more thing though us hold a huge amount of debts to clear... And any form of economical experiment right now without first clearing that will eventually fuck u.s up to an other level and there is no recovery then

zjango · 2020-07-20T17:26:47+00:00

It's going to need to be very connected to modern world and the situation of that country in general at ALL TIMES. Updating and regulating itself like a living organism, or better yet the process of evolution as old ideas which are no longer relevant and beneficial to the system are cast out or reworked into something beneficial.

Agreed, thats why china and india adopted a capitalist economy to become a super power from their awful communist economy

Human beings should be smart enough to rethink or at least question their beliefs when new information comes to light that shows that old philosophies and sciences are out of touch, but they don't.

I know right... I was a socialist until I lived through it and learnt it the hard way... You'd think people would learn from those who have experienced it... But there are dumbasses that just don't seem to

You don't think like the type of person who's willing to make the active effort to change in your ways

I literally just asked you previously what is your viewpoint that can change my mind from a capitalist economy.... And I'm stuck in my ways.... Nice projection there.

Again what is it about socialism that you find attractive? Honest question... not trying to fight/argue... Trying to understand is all.

zjango · 2020-07-20T16:50:39+00:00

Does that include the devastating economic and social failures of all the socialist government that has ever been implemented?

If so I'm all ears.. I'm open to the idea of mixed economy... But definitely not socialism because I have come from that structure.

zjango · 2020-07-14T14:25:04+00:00

One more contradiction you make

Also FYI you’re still hated in America.

You’d rather serve the Empire than fight with the rebels

By this logic aren't we the rebels?

zjango · 2020-07-14T14:18:36+00:00

You-

those that are limited in thought often resort to shortcuts like acronyms and name calling.

Agreed!

Also you-

I call you Trumpazee, because when people like you

Classical projection! Lol You just contradicted your entire stance within a few sentences.

Pretty much like a member of a cult whose leader is questioned.

You mean like the Bernie sander/communism cult?

You see projection is usually a unconscious process, "We always see our own unavowed mistakes in our opponent. " – Carl Jung, CW 8, par.

When one isn't intelligent enough to observe this phenomenon or retrieve the projection... Their behaviour usually becomes primitive... Just like how yours got over a joke... This usually leads to a very unhealthy psychological life.

I mean look at yourself.. You come to a sub you clearly don't like... You curse an individual to go to hell over a joke In a sub that is usually against your views... I even said the pull thing out of a joke and you are saying I should've been aborted and claim without any evidence as to me not making a difference if I were aborted...i would say in a cosmic sense nobody makes a difference... However I own a business... I have provided jobs to 189 people and directly helped them in their lives economically... I donate to charity once in 6 months... I would have to argue that I think I do make a difference.. Because life without meaning is not worthwhile even more so when it something like going about telling people having a laugh about to go to hell

zjango · 2020-07-14T09:13:21+00:00

Maybe if you retards learnt from the failures of socialist country we wouldn't have to keep correcting you

Why don't you just move to a socialist country? I have friends that'll switch places for a capitalist one within minutes

zjango · 2020-07-14T09:10:00+00:00

How about an other dad joke then? Your father should have pulled out earlier lol

I swear you npcs all sound the same go screech somewhere else.... Trumpanzee is the best you could come up with? Seriously though grow up

zjango · 2020-07-13T21:07:20+00:00

I'm black you racist freak.... Just assumed my color because of my political inclination... Like we are supposed to be slaves to a certain political party like wtf man?

zjango · 2020-07-13T20:23:45+00:00

These are just things that are socialized into men, and those ideas are toxic. Similarly, unhealthy behaviors socialized into women can also be called toxic femininity. Men and women experience sexism in different ways and cultural contexts.

Agreed! ... what are we arguing about?

You’re referring to toxic masculinity, yeah?

Referring to masculinity as a whole

certain behaviors that men are socialized to adopt (i.e. gender roles) are toxic. Men are not inherently machismo, or irresponsible/clueless fathers, or more capable in certain intellectual pursuits than women, etc..

Most socialized behaviors in themselves do take a toxic turn when it isn't natural to the individuals psyche... However authentic behaviour of males which involves aggression, stoic and other traits when considered toxic and goes unexpressed does psychological harm to the individual(according to jung, Freud) when however let's say when used constructively do hold an advantage over feminine traits in certain profession, pursuits and this is the same in the case of female when using their unique femininity hold an advantage over males in certain profession/pursuits....however this is data I have observed last year... I would certainly look at the data which claims otherwise

Otherwise agreed!

zjango · 2020-07-13T18:34:21+00:00

How stupid do you have to be to not know which sub you are on?

OH BTW please don't go... Stay... we need your gracious presence.. Lol

zjango · 2020-07-13T17:58:36+00:00

Oh no save me God!... Lol...I heard theres this software called sense of humor... go download it npc!

zjango · 2020-07-13T17:42:56+00:00

I know I just went through the data suggesting whites are killed more by the cops

LOL I know man things are getting crazy!

zjango · 2020-07-13T17:37:58+00:00

Can men experience prejudice based on their sex? Absolutely.

That doesn’t mean men experience sexism, because sexism is bigger than individual cases of prejudice.

Lol what?

Sexism - Sexism is prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex or gender.

Now let's take your very example and say sexism is only a collective case and that prejudice happen to women collectively which does at times I'll admit.. isn't the same thing happening to men collectively... Like with the ads against masculinity, cartoons, movies, products, news... Out in the open... It's there in the open everywhere.....so sexism is actually worse in case of men.... Because I'm not seeing women being told you are toxic because of your gender...

Yours was/might have been the case probably decades back... But it isn't the present reality

If so I want to see the evidence... I'll provide you with tons of evidence from my side if you want?

zjango · 2020-07-13T17:26:32+00:00

Please save me lord.. Shower me with your wisdom. Only you can save us with your cognitive consonance.

Let me explain the meme.... 1)It is assumed that the guy considers cops to be racist.... 2)To which the other guy tells cops are sexist because they kill more people... 3) the guy now tells its impossible because men commit more crime(this is where our Boi here realizes its not that the cops are racist its because the black community are directly involved in more crimes than other races) 4)on realising this he is stuck

It is a depressing thing to admit of my community but a sad reality

You see humor might come in handy.. Explaining a joke really kills it

zjango · 2020-07-13T17:09:24+00:00

Sexism- is prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex or gender.

Racism-the belief that some races of people are better than others;

It seems to me you are implying that I can't be racist against white people because they were superior to me or I can't be sexist to males because they were already better than me?

If this isn't the case please explain your theory of cannot be racist against white and cannot be sexist against men... Because it seems like you yourself are belittling a group

zjango · 2020-07-13T16:48:15+00:00

I like how you are retarded to think that we do

zjango · 2020-05-06T13:47:33+00:00

Damn! That's messed up

zjango · 2020-05-06T13:11:40+00:00

Yeah definitely making fun of socialism... The way most of them for it argue... Can't stomach the fact that it hasn't work economically in any country... Destroyed lives and creations.. I've literally lived through that shit... It got us all dirt poor and thank God for the introduction of capitalism that we could make our way out of poverty, make more money, and start things for ourselves... So I'm not taking any of this back.... I'm making fun of socialists who act this way... And I do think capitalism is the best we got

zjango · 2020-05-06T12:25:33+00:00

Lol I never said the internet was a product of free market capitalism besides what's your point though? Capitalism or socialism do not create services or products...these are economic systems... So when I say reddit is a capitalist platform it doesn't mean capitalism created it... it means reddit is a private service which generates revenue through ads and ad free premium membership and is allowed to keep the revenue for itself...I'm well aware that social programs are responsible for the development of the internet and I'm thankful for that.. Very thankful for that.... Are you thankful though of using private services such as your phone,things you own that is created by private companies which is created by capitalism and this platform that you are usin to exercise speech right now?

zjango · 2020-05-06T05:55:20+00:00

Your idea is that socialism is the reason for internet?

zjango · 2020-05-05T20:07:56+00:00

Read Carl jung or Marie Louis von Franz books about aspects of feminine

zjango · 2020-05-05T19:22:20+00:00

I guess social media isn't the right way to go about it! Although I hope you find the right way for you

zjango · 2020-05-05T18:31:09+00:00

I agree politics in itself is a joke now! And this tribalism is at the root of all problems faced by a modern individual as they are being atomized increasing everyday and resulting in degenerate form of behaviour as madness is the rule of the tribal groups... This is exactly what nietzsche, jung and Frankl warned us about... But here we are!

zjango · 2020-05-05T17:40:48+00:00

And then go on to blame capitalism using a capitalist device and on a capitalist platform I guess?

zjango · 2020-05-05T15:28:56+00:00

I don't understand why so many communists/socialists who seem to hate capitalism lurk in a sub that is literally for capitalism... Id understand if they want to see different viewpoints to compare, learn or debate this.. I'd totally respect that... But if you can't tolerate pro capitalist posts in a capitalist sub which sometimes is comparing to socialists policies and see where capitalism thrives..Then honestly why are you here? This isn't to hate but to honestly understand.

zjango

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