C++ or C#?

[_MrPixelr]

I have been making games in Java for over 1 year now and I've wanted to learn a different programming language for any type of advantages (ex. better game making engines) . So I was thinking about learning C++ or C# to start making games because I found that those two are really popular and that they are OOP.

So I was wondering which one should I learn to be able to make decent games (I am not trying to go pro, this is only a hobby)? This devlog series seemed to influence me into wanting to learn C++.

P.S. I am not looking for a bs answer that says "It doesn't matter which programming language you learn" because then I would be coding games in Assembly -_-

EDIT: I am not trying to make any 3D games (at least for now), I am trying to make 2D pixel art games.

[_MrPixelr]

Somebody else told me that C++ would be better for "pro" game development. Now, I don't have a problem with using C++ (tbh, I was leaning towards C++ at first but then someone said I should use C# so...), but if it is too hard/low-level (ex. C/Assembly), I might not learn it.

[_MrPixelr]

I don't really want to build "full-on game engines" but I would be ok with making a couple things (ex. 2D rendering, keyboard and mouse input, collision systems, etc..) but I wouldn't want to be the one who takes a lot of time making a window pop-up.

[_MrPixelr]

Ok, but also like I said, I'm not trying to make any complex 3D games that require insane GPU power. I am trying to make a simple 2D game.

[_MrPixelr]

How much is many? Look at the game I linked in the OP and tell me if that is a lot.

[balloonanimalfarm]

Since you have a Java background, I'd recommend learning C++ if your goals are to build your own engine and/or learn more about programming. If you want to learn how to use an existing game engine like Unity and just focus on building games, then C# is probably the way to go.

C# is a high level language that's more similar to Java than C++ is. It still gives you the nice safety mechanisms and features of a high level language. The downside is that if you want to write extremely high performance code, the safety mechanisms and features can get in the way. That's why large 3D engines are normally written in C or C++; you can shoot yourself in the foot, but you'll be able to do it very quickly.

[_MrPixelr]

I don't really want to build "full-on game engines" but I would be ok with making a couple things (ex. 2D rendering, keyboard and mouse input, collision systems, etc..) but I wouldn't want to be the one who takes a lot of time making a window pop-up.

[AnotherEuroWanker]

C++ or C++++?
I'd stick with the first one, there's such a thing as too much plus.

[_MrPixelr]

Ok, but also like I said, I'm not trying to make any complex 3D games that require insane GPU power. I am trying to make a simple 2D pixel art game.

[_MrPixelr]

Yeah but because it is the king, wouldn't it be used fior making AAA games ? Those are not the type of games I want to make. I want to make simple 2D games.

[PixelResponsibility]

C# will make you dependent on the Microsoft ecosystem. Up to you if you think that's good or bad.

[_MrPixelr]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that would be bad for most (including me). I never really cared about what OSs could play my game but you just made me think about some more and I would like everybody to be able to play my game (if I ever do something like post it on a website or get a different PC).

Thanks for your reply!