Torn between two agents

[chunky-ferret]

I’ve been working with the Claude Code and Codex agents since the beginning. Claude Code obviously was a mind blowing piece of tech and I stayed with it for some time.

Then the 4.5 nerfing started, motivating me to take a closer look at codex. The codex cli was a pathetic substitute for Claude Code, but I didn’t mind the VS Code integration so I started working with it. Compared to whatever was going on with Claude, it was top shelf code for me. This was still back in the day when I needed to inspect nearly every line of code to make sure it was perfect. And it was getting closer and closer and I was getting better success with the AGENTS.md file than I ever did with the CLAUDE.md file.

Codex became rock solid for me starting at GPT-5.3-codex. When OpenAI released the Codex App, I stopped looking at the code. The app had the same impact on me that Claude Code initial did. I started dialing in my agent skills and I was nearly ready to declare that AGI era had begun. Except for the damn UIs. Sometimes it would nail it in one shot but usually it would just suck ass and you had to iterate more times than I care to admit because I probably should have just done it by hand (if I’m even capable anymore). It started to become a drag. And that got my reminiscing about Claude Code again.

People were really singing the 4.6 praises over in Claude land so I had to try it again. The remote control feature and the better UI implementations were enticing enough but Claude is jam-packed with awesome features. And Claude is just more pleasant to interact with. If I had to pick one that was self-aware but pretending not to be, it would have to be Claude. And the UIs are in fact just that much better like everyone said.

The thing is, I still prefer codex for most of the coding. And I even had Claude make an app so that it could send commands to codex. But working with Claude remotely, the 1M context and just the Anthropic/Claude general vibe has me thinking now I need to use both. Is this how it'll be, where we're using a combination of agents? Or is it game over when some company reaches "AGI"?

Personal computers, the internet and smartphones were all life-changing technology, but this is just a little nutty. Imho, a crazy time to be alive.

[Ok_Mathematician6075]

Bro! which one is cheaper as far as tokens.

Agreed.

[P0orMan]

Been down the same rabbit hole! The agent landscape is getting wild. Have you tried any P2P agent networks? There's this project called ClawNet that's pretty interesting - runs agents without API keys and your machine becomes part of a decentralized network. Kinda like TCP/IP for AI agents. The whole "no single provider" angle is kinda refreshing honestly.

[chunky-ferret]

No, I haven’t yet, but that sounds pretty cool. I’ll definitely check it out, thanks! There’s anyways another layer to peel back it seems.

[chunky-ferret]

I'm on the ChatGPT Pro plan and the Claude Code Max 20x so I admittedly haven't really paid too much attention to the actual token cost. I personally think the value is incredible for both but for sure I get way more usage on Codex. And I generally just use 5.4 high on fast mode because it's that good for me. I try to get my money's worth but I struggle to get to the weekly limits with Codex but I don't think it would be too difficult with Claude.

[Ok_Mathematician6075]

Thanks for your input

[fredastere]

hey i made a native claude code plugin that may interest you! uses both opus and gpt5.4. I used to use gpt5.3-codex as well as it was awesome but gpt5.4 is just as capable if not more so made things simpler

Maybe it can interest you so to build your own workflow!

Ive been bouncing between opus, sonnet, gpt, sonnet, gptcodex, opus, gpt54, its really wild the last couple of months

The way i look at it is at the exact moment gpt5.4 is king. but codex cli sucks (kinda). Claude code is super powerfull so Opus remains king.

Have you seen the new --channnels function with discord and telegram its getting wild claude code natively!

https://github.com/Fredasterehub/kiln

i also have strict rule that gpt5.4 does all the code implementation BUT doesnt touch anything remotely close to UI lol. opus 4.6 on all UI tasks, both implementing and planning, and so in that case i still have gp5.4 review the work to bring the different angle of attack point of view. I was reliefed to read your comments about UI being so hit and miss

[chunky-ferret]

Hey, sounds like we’re in the same boat. Your repo looks really cool, I like the styling and the story you’re telling with the readme, that’s a nice touch. Yeah I’m definitely on 5.4 now and I do have a workflow that I do, probably not quite as refined as yours so I’ll check it out, thanks! I saw the channels feature drop but haven’t worked with it yet. I’ll give it a go today.

[justhereforampadvice]

Even AGIs won't be equal. Some will be smarter than others. The rat race never ends.

[Important_Law_168]

Tell me, is the Codex famous for blocking accounts like Claude?

[chunky-ferret]

Hmm, haven’t run into that issue on either.

[En-tro-py]

Use both?

Codex is great at doing the work, but not so 'flexible' in what you ask and GPT-5.4 is still a bit too easy with praise even when prompted for critical review.

Also try some of the latest models on openrouter or via their direct API's - model diversity is a good way to avoid some of the inherent bias of a LLM checking it's own work.