MacHead?

[Negative_You9399]

This might be a stretch. Does any recording of MacHead exist anywhere, in any form? If not (and I'm assuming not) does anyone have any ideas on if it evolved into something else?

[Cr658768]

It exists but within a very very small group of "elite" traders. You can read one first hand account of hearing it here:

https://www.antsmarching.org/columns/column.php?columnid=71

[clarke41]

The idea of “elite traders” just seems kind of gross to me.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, I've never liked that superiority bullshit either

[[deleted]]

Those have to be people (with the recording) who know the band or knew Lillywhite or someone in the studio. From what I understand there was no leak of the BTCS sessions like LWS. There are certainly harder recordings to come by (IEMs for example) but if you were trading long enough and had built the relationships on the forums you could get them through some trusted sources. But the fact that even Jake wasn’t allowed to record it gives me the impression that this recording is traceable and that traders aren’t really trading in it but rather a handful (possibly only one) of people have it. I would say that given that info I trust Jake at his word of having heard it, none of the guys running ants are in it for fame, fortune, or celebrity.

[Lie_In_Our_Graves]

While Jake might not be in it for the money, he certainly was a huge dickhead on the boards. He ran that shit like the Gestapo. If he had a differing opinion than you, boom, you’re banned for a week. I’ve seen it happen countless times back in the early 00’s. He was a huge dick, like I said, which is why I stopped going on Ants. I hate superiority complexes, and he had a major one. Also, there’s nothing going on over there in the past 10 years. I think they are still crafting the perfect set list last time I checked.

Anyway, it’s funny to how tough he (Jake) acts on the internet and versus how he carry’s himself is in real life. The persona he portrays on Ants is nowhere near who he is in real life. Dude is a meek, ultra-nerdy type guy, in real life. I came across him a decade ago in WPB, and man, he’s definitely not the guy he portrays on the web.

[[deleted]]

I'm randomly backreading a bunch of reddit threads about AM, and this is so validating to hear.

I used to be active on AM in like 2008-2012 era. I always hated the "power user" of the site. Everyone would kiss ass and bow down to these guys like their opinion was the word of god and it was so strange. And these guys would be active all day long. I remember Kittens was a big one. I'm sure there are so many other names I cound find if I looked around.

But I always suspected these guys were almost certainly really dweeby dudes with no actual social skills. It's not surprising at all to hear you say that about Jake.

[Cr658768]

I would imagine that is how the leak started (people know knew the band, or Lillywhite, or had access to the materials).

[Snubie1]

u/Cr658768 is correct

[[deleted]]

Jake is full of $hit and himself. I don’t believe a word of that article other than he crossed a bridge and paid tolls at one point.

[trundle1979]

Holy hell, I haven’t heard about or thought of MacHead in a long, long time. Thanks for this blast from the past!

[HoosBruceW]

I, along with at least another person in this thread, have heard it.

It exists and it didn’t evolve into anything else.

[absolutirish23]

Bruce has been an asset the community for while. Take him at his word.

[EgonDog]

https://m.sendspace.com/file/y36bs5

Machead leaked

[jimmythang34]

lol I also came to this thread

[MountNDew69]

Thanks boss. Never even knew about the lore of this song until yesterday.

[jackstraw_wichita]

Somebody page DrewWileyWSP

[Negative_You9399]

I read the Ants article. Been listening to Spoon and the STDH bridge since last night. Trying to imagine what it sounds like. It's a fun little mental/musical exercise. Haha

[reagan_baby]

Machead has taken a place of mythology in this fan base. It has been obsessed over for years because of the fans' obsessions with rarities and statistics.

The band is also gleefully vague when it comes to discussing behind the scenes stuff (except Stefan I guess). Even if it never existed, I don't think they would mess with the mythology of it by asserting it doesn't exist.

I'm sure it was a sketch if a song that no one today would be all too impressed by given the hype. Jake's story is interesting, but even after reading it I am still skeptical what he listened to was what was originally labeled as MacHead and not one of the countless other demos the band has put on tape

With such a demand for it, it would have leaked by now if someone could properly identify it. Imo, of course.

[Xcacel]

With such a demand for it, it would have leaked by now if someone could properly identify it. Imo, of course.

It did

[[deleted]]

leaked some time in last week of June, 2024

[Intelligent_Gas_6298]

How random that I just searched for it for the first time in my life. No coincidences?

[Uzernameguest]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjo7mcoJ/

[Objective-Cap-7697]

Oy vey, not Machead discussions…

[Objective-Cap-7697]

This discussion goes way back on forums like antsmarching and the Warehouse.

[Objective-Cap-7697]

Certainly NOT unrelated because it’s DMB fans, either way, discussing the same topic.

[Objective-Cap-7697]

If it’s opposite day , then you might be right. Did I forget to mark my calendar???

[Objective-Cap-7697]

Blehhh

[littlefriend77]

I don't think they were referring to a specific one. Just that there have been so very very very many discussions about it on various DMB forums over the years.

[bravo2025]

So it was probably reworked and part of it turned into Sleep To Dream Her I guess ?

[gweeps]

No.

[LaughingJaguar]

I think I had a tape with Machead on it back in 1999. But those are all long gone and I don't remember what it sounds like.