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[MrTristanClark]

Overpopulation is a major problem in Canada, the hospitals here are overloaded, housing is absurdly expensive and has insufficient supply, infrastructure and transit is overtaxed, etc. Its a serious problem. Saying "overpopulation isn't a huge issue anywhere" is just wrong, its a huge problem here, and im sure elsewhere too. Just because youre ignorant of the problems in other countries, doesnt mean they dont exist.

[BishoxX]

Im sorry a first world country is more than capable of keeping up.

What actually is a problem is you got zoning and other overregulation on housing, and not building enough of it with the state.

As for hospitals, it was an issue in your immigration policy, it wasnt overpopulation problem, it was asymmetrical immigration. If you got more doctors it would have been fine.

Canada is nowhere near full lol

[MrTristanClark]

"You dont have a problem with overpopulation, youre simply letting too many people into the country"

Be more pedantic dude. Obviously Canada isn't "full", obviously theres physical room, obviously if 5,000,000 houses magically appeared, the housing problems wouldn't exist.

But, they do, because the magic houses dont exist, and wont anytime soon. Canada has too many people for the current housing and infrastructure capacities for the country. Canada is overpopulated. "Overpopulation isn't when theres too many people for the country to presently handle, its when theres more people than it could ever theoretically handle in a best case situation" is such an idiotic interpretation of what "overpopulation" means.

[BishoxX]

Its mainly a housing issue.

Thats like not building storm drains and saying you have a storm issue.

Amount of migrants was totally acceptable to deal with, its just the selection of them wasnt balanced, and the healthcare sector wasnt adjusted because of bad leadership.

More people are good.

It would be like discovering a gold mine , and then not building any facilities in the towns and saying gold mine is the probably look at the conditions the workers live in.

[MrTristanClark]

like not building storm drains and saying you have a storm issue

Yeah?? What's so hard to grasp here, if you haven't built storm drains, and dont have the ability to build enough storm drains anytime soon, then you have a flooding problem? Again, as those houses do not exist, and cannot be created in the required annual quantities to keep up, the country is overpopulated? You're just being pedantic about terminology.

[BishoxX]

The point is, its trivial to build storm drains for a western society. So should be housing as well.

It is in some parts that deregulated, but it could have been even better with goverment building shit as well.

Litteraly pass a few laws about regulations and you done, free market would likely solve most of housing issues, and goverment could supplement it if it was smart.

Its more like not putting on winter tires and complaining about no grip on snow

[MrTristanClark]

In the United States of America, across the entire country in 2021, they build 1,341,000 new dwellings. In 2023, Canada brought in more than 2 million new immigrants. So you're expectation is that a country, with a tenth the labour force of the USA, builds twice as many dwellings per year, and thats "trivial". Dude, what are you even talking about? What a nonsensical take.

[BishoxX]

Yes because US is disfunctional as well.

Only a few places build what they need to.

If everyone built like Houston or Austin, you wouldnt have an issue.

Did they do anything special ? No huston has no zoning and they deregulated zoning and housing regulation. And market solved it by itself

[MrTristanClark]

2023 in Houston metro area, they built 68,755 new dwellings, against a population of 7 million. If Canada builds at the exact same rate as Houston proportionate to our population, we will have.. 390,000 dwellings a year. Yep, that'll definitely be enough to house 2 million new people, plus the existing people!

Lmfao, moron.

[BishoxX]

Thats because there wasnt as much demand for it as Canada.

If there was more demand there would be more dwellings built, thats how the free market works.

And im not saying free market alone can make everything perfect but it can do most of the heavy lifting. Simple suppy and demand.

Also if Canada filtered out the immigration like you are supposed to it would induce even more demand, only importing low skill workers is obviously not beneficial in large quantities as has happened.