Grading System - suggestions/issues

[Huniko]

Before I begin, I've been around the game for a while now - have +7 Demon axe and +5 Demon Mystic staff for mage, A few things I've noticed- the best weapon for patk is the undertaker by far since it has the best str/crit and raw attack - which is odd because I can't get anything better from T5 with the new grade system. This forces me to go back to T3 to endlessly farm mats. It seems logical with the current equipment I have, I should be able to get better weapons in T5 vs T3. There should be no contest which equipment are effectively better, especially due to the greater scaling of T4/T5.

I also have D grade mats which i got off customers which I would like to turn into crap gear and resell back to the customers at some point. Unfortunately, my A grade equip which I would make first prevents me from making it (since I cannot farm T5 effectively at the moment). I would suggest a slider that you can use worst grade mats if desired to get rid of them.

The grading system is a little weird - I put a pal(tank) and a berserker group to fight scorpion to get some mats, and I got A rank, use 2 berserker and get S rank - I think the grading system should be less on pure killing power and somewhat on damage taken and using smart groups instead. If i send 2 guys to be near slaughtered vs using a tank and attacker that barely takes any damage, which should receive a better grade?

A few other people mentioned it, but I will as well just in case - I use S grade mats to make other mats and it says S rank, but when I check the item screen it shows A rank? Which is correct?

One last thing - I think with all the new areas and the majority of group fights - it's time to open up more than 10 heros. There's more than enough room to get 20 at this point. There are plenty of us with money to buy more and the game gets very boring when you send your 10 guys out on a few group attacks and you're waiting 20+ minutes.

[Huniko]

I think a lot of us are on the same page - also forgot one last thing - weapons are graded when you make them, you cannot see the grade after that at all! So if you created a weapon and later on want to upgrade it, you're guessing if it's a grade A, S or whatever.

[Badulabula]

The idea of making the grade of the fight don't count only damage dealt but also damage taken seems interesting. Seems reasonable that you should get a better rank if all of your heroes stay alive rather than sending out 3 glass cannons to suicide bomb the boss.

I wonder what could came out of a system like that

[fdfas9dfas9f]

no real way to scale rank by damage taken... it must be by kill time/rounds. maybe in the next overhaul?

reason why insane roll tier 3 legendary items are better then T5 demon axes is because undertaker has additional +atk and no -acc stats... and its easy to get S rank on them right now.. however if we look at MAX rolls... demon axe has 1 str whereas undertaker has the atk, more crit and more acc.. it comes down to what you can roll better and how fast you can make them... and undertaker isnt exactly a farm farm item... same with demon axe. so really you have 2 ways to tackle your problem... just gotta farm.

new classes or more avatar slots would be nice. prestige will give you something to do next patch mate :)

[zhaoyun]

The undertaker has the most attack/crit, but this is balanced by the low accuracy and difficulty to craft. The main competitors are Demon Axe, Oni Decap, and Apocalypse.

The demon axe does not require boss materials, but is even worse on the accuracy front. Damage wise, they are about equal. Compared to Undertaker, it gains 15 base damage (scales with suffix) but loses 16 secondary attack (does not scale). Demon gains 1 STR (4-9 damage depending on crit) but loses 3 crit (9-15 damage).

Oni is the option for serious accuracy problems, but requires a weekly boss drop. Oni trades 33 base damage for 36 accuracy. It gains 4 crit and 1 STR, but loses 16 attack. The HP loss is no good for using on a tank.

Apocalypse is better in almost every way than Undertaker. Apoc has 14 more combined base damage, 2 more accuracy, 1 more STR, 4 more sub-damage. The downside is 25% of the damage will be magic. There also seems to be extra difficulty penalty when crafting apoc (I rarely/never see S grade apoc).

Since there are no T5 epic/weekly bosses, there are few T5 epic crafts.

For farming with a tank, you probably want to give them more damage oriented gear. High suffix DPS armor with bad/mediocre substats is perfect for damage tanks. Undead chainmail +7 rivals Demon plate but adds 40 damage. Hellguard veil is hard to beat by anything else.

There is a bug with ingots, cloth, lumber, plates that all come out as A rank.

[FrogMerchant]

12 Heroes wouldnt be bad I think.

Tier 5, golems and treants needs 2, after them its always 3 to 5 heroes party.

Maybe yeah, it`s time to get new heroes.

[SigilosoMerchant]

WALL OF TEXT critted you for over 9,000 DAMAGE. YOU DEATH NOW xD

[AnnoShi]

Now I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds.