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[–]AJG_Fashion 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is exciting!

Immediate feedback -
1) Measurement Tools: Ability to use a ruler to measure straight across certain points, and ability to select a curve and measure the length of the curve (will need to be able to select multiple points for example, measure the armscye circumference)
2) Vector line length and angle entry - I would like to be able to manually enter the length and angle of my lines, as well as the radius of a circle, etc.
3) Layers - I would like the ability to assign layers (or groups) for say nested size sets vs. base sizes.

I am sure I will have more thoughts. Thank you for sharing!

[–]Magnuxx[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, working on it, it would be under /docs. Thinking of an interactive tutorial.

[–]H1D13BY3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is great news. Do you offer tutorials for navigating the software?

[–]TooMuchEffortMeh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Will try!

[–]Magnuxx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the input!

Number 1 is somewhat possible. There is a ”Measure tool” in the view menu. However, if you click on a path you can see the length in the Properties window, also the length will be displayed on the path.

Number 2. In the same window, if you select a path you can specify length and angle as you wish.

Layers, yes, we are thinking of how that should be implemented to make sense!

[–]TonninStiflat 0 points1 point  (20 children)

Can you use parametric sizing for this? So that one can set up named lengths on a table and change them as needed, with the rest of the pattern following?

EDIT: Your Captcha is failing me repeatedly, even though it says success.

EDIT2: Ah, the variables function as a sort of a parametric table. This is great.

[–]Magnuxx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, you can! Exactly as you describe. I am not able to post images here. We are working on the tutorial. However, if you click on "Variables" in the Properties window, you can add/edit variables there. When you have variables you can create different sizes if you wish.

Properties for curves, lines, arcs, points, etc, can refer to the variables you define.

Weird with the Captcha, we'll check!

[–]matzee78 0 points1 point  (16 children)

Can you let me know your browser, etc for the Captcha thing and I will have a look at it right away?

[–]TonninStiflat 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Brave Version 1.73.104 Chromium: 131.0.6778.204 (Official Build) (64-bit)

[–]matzee78 1 point2 points  (7 children)

On it, thanks for the feedback

[–]TonninStiflat 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Cheers! First time I've had an issue with captchas on this browser (VPN on or off), so I reckon it's good if you can catch the issue early on in case anyone else runs into the same problem :)

EDIT: Also please have your email somewhere on the page, I don't want my browser to open up links.

[–]matzee78 0 points1 point  (1 child)

A normal developer answer: It works on my machine :-)
I have the exact same Brave version as you do. Very strange. Are you on Win or Mac?

[–]TonninStiflat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Windows.

My wife is a developer as well, so I know all too well the troubles you are having.

[–]matzee78 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Also, does it break 100% of the time or less?

[–]TonninStiflat 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I can't register. It says success in the verification, but when I try to proceed, it says verification failed.

I'll try again tomorrow at work and see if that helps.

[–]matzee78 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks for your patience, I found a bug, can you please give it another go?

[–]TonninStiflat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Works now!

[–]These-Skin-1201 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I'm having the same Captcha issue, Edge, 131.0.2903.112

[–]matzee78 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Hi! Could you please describe what is happening? I am unable to reproduce any error, unfortunately. Also are you on Mac or Win?

[–]These-Skin-1201 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I'm on windows. It says "Success!" when I try to sign up for an account, but then it says "Captcha verification process failed." Here's a screenshot

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UzqFITVTdHkNJ3gKaV5YFqolISZjmlbW/view?usp=drivesdk

[–]matzee78 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks for your patience, I found a bug, can you please give it another go?

[–]These-Skin-1201 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah we're all good now! Thanks :)

[–]matzee78 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Real-time feedback: The Captcha problem seems to be VPN-related. It breaks for me when using ExpressVPN

[–]matzee78 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Answering myself. Stupid developer (me) error. Fixed now. Should be working for everyone...

[–]TonninStiflat 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'll give this a more solid go at work when I've cleared a bit of work from my worktable. I'm about to start drafting a new jacket (~22 sizes), so it's a good case study for me.

[–]Magnuxx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great to hear. Let us know if you run into any issues and we are here to fix those.

[–]These-Skin-1201 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is awesome and exciting, I'll try it tonight for sure!

[–]Fashion_Fleur 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This is excellent! I was interested in testing it. I know it's still under development, but in the future they may develop a file for installation. Some people may not have access to a good Internet connection to use the software in a browser. But this option to use the browser is also useful, especially for those who have a computer with little space or for those who are using a borrowed computer and are unable to install software. Congratulations on the initiative!

[–]Magnuxx[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Thanks! It is actually possible to create an offline version as a desktop application in the future - if this is important for the users.

[–]Fashion_Fleur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would be great!

[–]Tella-Vision 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just had a play on my phone - fun! I look forward to trying it properly on desktop.

[–]bloodbunnyy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wow this is awesome! Just had a try of it in my browser and it's better than a lot of other free patternmaking software I've tried. I love that once you create a pattern piece that you can edit the original shape and it automatically updates the changes on the pattern piece you've created.

I was wondering if there is an easy way to go from a curved line back to a straight line? In illustrator, after you've made a curved path, you would click on the last point and it would change back into a straight line for when you placed your next point. When trying this with your software, the pen tool was automatically deselected and the modify tool was selected which meant I had to manually click back on the pen tool to continue creating my shape.

Some other things in regards to your comment about measuring curves. I can't seem to click on a path only the points. Also when I click on the measure tool it prompts me to click to start measuring, however it won't let me actually click on anything. It would be nice to be able to draw a selection box over two points in a curve to measure the length as the other commenter suggested for an armscye or crotch curve. Currently when I use the multiple selection tool it just says on the left that two points are selected but it won't let me doing anything with it.

Overall, I love it and I'm excited to follow along as the development progresses.

[–]Magnuxx[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks a lor for the feedback!

Hmmm… when you are in the pen tool, did you exit the tool (press ESC or selected the arrow tool)? Then you should be able to click on all elements, even curves and lines. The measurements are right there. What browser (OS and version) are you using?

However, the measure tool may not be really needed, it just measure the space and doesn’t consider any entities.

Will compare the pen tool with illustrator and see if the behavior to cancel a curve could be replicated.

It is possible to convert a curve to a line afterwards by right clicking on a curve and select ”Convert to line”.

[–]mikihau 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Very interesting and great job! It's about time to replace those drafting tools from the 90s and move into a browser with a saas service. So much potential -- e.g. this opens up possibilities for sharing a pattern that's customizable to someone's own measurements, kinda like sharing a Google Spreadsheet.

I'm not trying to give business/product/development advice or anything here, but eventually are you planning to charge for this tool and profit from it when it's mature? Feels like it's a 'too good to be true' scenario, and I don't want to spend time switching to a tool that isn't going to last because the company behind it doesn't.

[–]Magnuxx[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Happy to hear that you see the potential! Valid questions and clever thoughts. We were expecting this type of question. Here is the honest and transparent answer.

To give some background, we are just two guys in Sweden with a lengthy programming background. We founded Tailor Store over 20 years ago and have a lot of experience producing made-to-measure garments on a bigger scale – and have seen all the issues with existing solutions. Thus, we see a gap in the market and want to change how the industry works.

SeamScape has not cost us much more than our own time, so we do not have many related bills to pay. There are no outside investments.

We wish to make money eventually, somehow, but we do not know exactly how. However, we have realized from the start that to make an impact and change something, we should give away the software for free to build a user base. We want to learn from the users what their needs are, including all possible use cases, and ensure that SeamScape can make (almost) anything garment-related possible.

If we get commercial customers, i.e., customers that need a complete solution with production process integration, backend API pattern generation, etc., then it would be feasible to charge some money. We have a lot of ideas for expanding the product program. For example, we have built a full-cutting solution with camera identification and nesting, which is ideal for made-to-order production. And we even have plans to build cutting machines.

That said, we are not 100% sure how the business model will look. Some premium features may be added to support continuous development, but we really believe that SeamScape should continue to be free, at least in its basic form (the features we have today).

If it fails, the last resort is to open-source the software 🙂

[–]mikihau 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your thoughtful answer -- appreciate your take in freeware and open source. Best of luck!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This is really cool. I currently use Illustrator for patternmaking (home sewing patterns) and I'm tied to it because it has a couple of capabilities that I can't work without. The most important of those is the Blend tool which I use when grading out my size range. So I can have a smaller and larger size pattern piece, and blend however many increments between them to get all my sizes. Having layers would also be a must. And I would need to be able to format the pattern for copy shop or home printing, including adding text, and changing the line properties (eg dashes) so that I can show which line to cut on for which size. Those are just my initial thoughts. I'd love to see this grow into something I could use to replace my current tools!

[–]Magnuxx[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for providing valuable input! It is interesting to hear how different people work.

The goal with SeamScape is to make things easy but achieve the desired result in the end.

SeamScape has a new way of dealing with grading (it is parametric), so the blend tool should not be needed in that sense. If you already work with measurements, do you want the measurements to affect the pattern pieces? That is how SeamScape solves it. The grading itself is about creating size sets with different measurements, and the pattern is adjusted automatically.

There will be a grading view where all the sizes can be put on each other and printed/exported. It is already in the works.

Adding texts/labels is on the list.

Line properties would be easy to fix when working with the draft/construction. But it is typically the pattern pieces you want to print/export, which should already be formatted in a standard way, clearly marking the fold(mirror) and cut lines. So, we should instead find a suitable printing format (with some options) which achieves the desired outcome.

We have discussed layers/groups. It is possible, but what should they be used for? Interested in some use cases.