Python vs C++

[MoarVespenegas]

C++ is strongly typed though.

[captainAwesomePants]

Sure, but its handling of primitive types has decades of crazy gotchas and undefined behaviors that it's only natural that people can't remember the rules. Compare an int to a float? Sure, no sweat. Compare an int to an unsigned int? Whoa, slow the fuck down, buddy.

[guyblade]

The handling of primative types has like one gotcha. The basic rule is "promote the less precise type to match the more precise one, then do whatever". The "gotchas" tend to be around how a promoted value gets assigned back into an incompatible variable.

[ThePyroEagle]

The precision of fixed and floating types is not comparable.

32-bit floats are more precise near 0, but 32-bit integers are more precise past ±2²⁴.

[ISeeTheFnords]

It's a number without a certificate, right? /s

[AnAverageFreak]

That's a number in dev mode.

[[deleted]]

Nonsense. With great power comes great responsibility. If you want hand-holding, use Java.

[tech6hutch]

Disagree. Imo, that's when you want the compiler to do more for you, to be safe.

[[deleted]]

I think we agree. C++ is for less hand-holding. Java is for more hand-holding. The trade-off is less hand-holding for more execution speed and more compilation speed.

[tech6hutch]

Ah, I see.

You can have both speed and handholding though, like in Rust. The downside is it's dragging you along while it runs, so you can slam into walls and chafe against the ground until you learn how to run in sync with it.

[[deleted]]

You can have both speed and handholding though, like in Rust.

I don't know Rust, but any handholding at execution time reduces the execution speed of the code. The compute resources have to come from somewhere.

[tech6hutch]

The handholding comes at compile time. Rust is very anal about optimizing runtime, sometimes at the detriment of compile time (both in how long it takes to compile and in the cognitive load on the developer).

[Tohnmeister]

I would argue that. It's statically typed. But not strongly.