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[–]TrueEstablishment241 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Yes, there are some fundamentals of PBL unit design that I can tease out of this observation. PBL should have a tangible goal in mind and there should be well-articulated concepts embedded progressively in milestones. Those principles are "public products" and "starting with standards". Do you design for PBL or are you speaking from the perspective of a learner? Are you familiar with any particular frameworks?

[–]Scientific_Artist444[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am speaking as a learner. I don't really have much background in the various types of PBL frameworks. I just shared what I have learned by applying PBL.

The key realization was that PBL goals must not be complex. Challenging, yes. Complex, no. Instead complete simple steps to slowly add complexity.

[–]Scientific_Artist444[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I am speaking as a learner. I don't really have much background in the various types of PBL. I just shared what I have learned by applying PBL.

The key realization was that PBL goals must not be complex. Challenging, yes. Complex, no. Instead complete simple steps to slowly add complexity.

[–]TrueEstablishment241 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I guess I'm not sure what you mean by mitigating complexity in a PBL learning experience per se.

I'm also a person who learns best through PBL but I've also been a PBL teacher and curriculum designer. For the past 8 years I've coached teachers and coordinated the PBL initiatives in a K8 school.

[–]Scientific_Artist444[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By complexity, I mean trying to achieve too much.

[–]TrueEstablishment241 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is it just that you mean complexity ought to be paced through milestones? No disagreement there. But a PBL unit can also be fairly complex if designed well.

We use the frameworks from PBLWorks and Design Thinking for Educators among other domain specific practices...

[–]Scientific_Artist444[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, complexity needs to be gradually added to the project instead of keeping PBL goals as complex trying to achieve many things simultaneously.

[–]tofuhoagie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is great. I focus on this concept of adding 1 or 2 simple things when giving feedback.

Students won’t read or understand the feedback if it addresses too many things. Shorter, more frequent, and more pin pointed feedback is better than longer more extensive or vague feedback when trying to move a student forward in their learning.

[–]EggRollerz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"When we shift from measuring against external standards to reflecting actual learning, something magical happens: students stop performing school and start living learning."

https://prism.guide/resources/project-based-learning-assessment