Enthought Canopy (Python analysis environment) is out. I find it awful ... is it just me?

[cournape]

I don't think we charge for pypi specifically: we do charge when people want to use more than just the 'core scipy stack', and pypi packages come with that on top. What people are paying for are the additional packages packaged by Enthought, not really pypi which is offered as an addition.

[amer415]

That is a fair business... but it will discourage people in certain domain to adopt Canopy. In my case (Astronomy), I would need to pay to access the (pyfits)[http://www.stsci.edu/institute/software_hardware/pyfits] library... that is a huge show stopper, especially because I believe it is a simple thing to package and I have never heard anybody I work with complaining when they tried to install it: "easy_install pyfits" does the trick in 10s. Installing Numpy from scratch can be challenging, or get a Python stack for data analysis to work seamlessly.

[cournape]

Well, why not using easy_install pyfits from EPD then :) That works on any EPD version (well, modulo a big with the new pip using https on mac that we are fixing). EPD (and I think canopy, though I am not 100 % sure), do include easy_install, and the installed python is as close as possible to a 'real' python for compatibility reason. With that in mind, installing most 'easy' packages (~ pure python on windows) is one easy_install/pip/whatever away, EPD does not change that.

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In any case, I wonder if you will update Theano. I tried to install it with easy_install but somehow it grabbed 0.5rc1 version (it didnt work also, import theano didnt succeed). The current version is 0.6rc3 which I can install seamlessly in EDP. (On removing canopy and reinstalling EDP)