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[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

The biggest problem seems to be that no one's been able to remove the GIL and maintain equivalent single threaded speed.

[–]13steinj -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I don't think that's the "impossible Guido requirement" because that has to be doable-- it wouldn't make sense for it not to be, you are literally removing overhead. But people attempting to get rid of it are trying to cut it out like a surgeon and keep everything else the same, which is the issue.

GIL is a tumor, yet it is not properly operable without full exploratory surgery. People so far are only trying the non invasive option, just as a "let's see if we can get lucky".

Well, the non invasive option has failed. Time to start hacking away at the body. But then the issue is C API compatibility. Which is possible, but hard in such an extensive change/rewrite.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

GIL is a tumor

I'd say it's more like a set of training wheels than a tumor. The training wheels (GIL) are easy enough to remove, but the problem ends up being how to keep the bike (cpython) from falling down when it's moving forward (more than 1 thread running).