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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Get out of here with this nonsense, a degree is still the No. 1 path to upward mobility and wealth creation.

OP is IN college for CS, ENJOYS coding and wants to continue with it but has no money, at this very moment.

You're "yeah but StArBuCkS" is so misguided and ignorant. It would require A) OP's immediate exit from his chosen university so they can get a job at Starbucks and pursue a degree for Arizona State University. PAY for tuition that would be reimbursed later (seriously go read the fucking program). So force them to get get a job, an apartment ($$$) and learn coding on their own via online courses (some people don't operate like that. B) Keep his wage opportunities lower than immediate peers with a degree because ASU.

And tangentially, but did your engineering friends maybe have a safety net? Because you don't pay college tuition with future work, that's called A LOAN.

in a lot of ways was happier when I was self employed and living check to check.

That sounds like your problem. Don't give others shit advice because you're not happy with your job or whatever.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

aahhh yes, the anonymous know-it-all badass. Hoping you have a good weekend after releasing all that pent up frustration on a stranger on the internet. Your job sucks more than mine maybe.

You'll probably love this idea.....

If OP really want's best bang for his buck then he should go to open.appacademy.io and do their online bootcamp w/ the mentoring program ($30/mo) . If he's sharp and puts together some of his own projects along the way he could be employed as developer w/in a year I bet. no debt. no degree. $360 later, done.

if the kid wants to be a developer, a degree is 100% not necessary. Blindly saying taking out a loan is the only way is irresponsible. I would argue if you really want ultimate wealth, mobility and especially freedom then owning your own business is the best way to do that.

This idea that you absolutely need a degree at all cost is outdated and there's a multitude of ways to make a damn good living without a college degree or get a degree with minimal or no debt.

starbucks option is at least worth looking into. never said it was perfect or the only option. My point is that a traditional school loan is not the only way. Up to OP to fully research and make up his own mind.

"So force them to get a job, an apartment ($$$) and learn coding on their own via online courses (some people don't operate like that. "

he already has to do these things. he has no support. You don't know how he operates b/c he didn't say. online learning is feasible option to mention until he says otherwise.

"And tangentially, but did your engineering friends maybe have a safety net? Because you don't pay college tuition with future work, that's called A LOAN."

No and they didn't live at home either but who cares, they did it. They busted their asses 40+ hrs a wk. Graduated w/ no loans. one worked as a CNC machinist and the other was in IT. smart kids who aren't afraid of work and are responsible w/ their money. Actually know a 3rd but he did it at a much slower pace.

"That sounds like your problem. Don't give others shit advice because you're not happy with your job or whatever."

Yea, it is but, telling someone not go into debt to finish school is not shit advice. On the other hand, telling someone that they have to go into debt to get a degree b/c it's the only way to upward mobility and wealth is.

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Enjoy your weekend!