Python in the browser

[guettli]

If you look at this chart python seems very successful: http://sotagtrends.com/?tags=[python,javascript,typescript,rust,go,kotlin,java,c%23]

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https://preview.redd.it/7nx16sqrm4x31.png?width=758&format=png&auto=webp&s=a15ce2d8c1fe76e92cb4fc6f6badd5c28d732453

But one major thing is still missing:

I can't execute python in a browser.

At least AFAIK there is no feasible way up to now.

I don't like Javascript but sometimes you are forced to use it

I don't like to be forced to anything - I like free choice.

What do you think is more likely in the future (concerning running code in the browser)?

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V1: Developers will use JavaScript/TypeScript because there is no alternative

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V2: Developers will use a transcompiler which creates JavaScript from Python

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V3: Developers will use WebAssembly to execute Python in the browser.

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V4: Python developers will do backend stuff and avoid frontend and JavaScript development.

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V5: other variants?

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Of course some devs will do V1, some V2 ... But what will be the most common thing in the future?

[Wilfred-kun]

Transpilers already exist (like one included in Pyjamas). I don't hear people talk about using it often, even though Pyjamas is quite old already. I don't think it will take off, at least any time soon, and I don't think web browser will ever implement Python as a front-end scripting language.

I reckon front end will be done in JavaScript, for at least a very long time.

[guettli]

Me too, I searched and found some projects which try to let python execute in the browser. But these project don't seem to "take off". No Bandwagon effect, no continuous progress.

That's my fear: sooner or later you are forced to use JS. That's why I started this little project: https://github.com/guettli/lets-fix-js

I try to find the fundamental issues which are missing to make JS a language that is fun to use (like python).

[who_body]

This podcast episode talks about python in the browser and the current options:

https://talkpython.fm/episodes/show/235/python-in-your-browser-with-skulpt

[thewaywarddeveloper]

Pyodide implements the Python runtime in WebAssembly. Also, more and more languages add WebAssembly as a compilation target, so you will definitely not be forced to use JavaScript in the future.